Wolverine did no cutting of the web during that sparring match. He just MYSTICALLY pulled away from the wall.
Spidey probably didn't dodge it since HE DIDN'T THINK WOLVERINE WOULD STAB HIM. This is not a hard concept to understand. They were teammates, sparring in order to better themselves. Sparring = Not killing. Otherwise Spidey could've literally dumped dozens of gallons of webbing on Wolverine, leaving him completely immobile.
And being Class 100 doesn't automatically give you superhuman durability to piercing damage. Using that as evidence doesn't work too well.
Look at Wonder Woman. High class 100, yet can still be stabbed and pierced.
Originally posted by Soleran
Stop, just stop. Lizard has enhanced reflex's and speed if Spiderman can shoot webbing down the lizards throat in combat he can hit any shot on Logan regardless of how much you want to carry on.
Originally posted by Soleran
Which regardless you will carry on and ramble, it's been proven Spiderman can and has hit Wolverine with webbing however on the forum he finish's the job and doesn't let Logan out, the end.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wolverine did no cutting of the web during that sparring match. He just MYSTICALLY pulled away from the wall.Spidey probably didn't dodge it since HE DIDN'T THINK WOLVERINE WOULD STAB HIM. This is not a hard concept to understand. They were teammates, sparring in order to better themselves. Sparring = Not killing. Otherwise Spidey could've literally dumped dozens of gallons of webbing on Wolverine, leaving him completely immobile.
And being Class 100 doesn't automatically give you superhuman durability to piercing damage. Using that as evidence doesn't work too well.
Look at Wonder Woman. High class 100, yet can still be stabbed and pierced.
Exactly. That sparring match where Logan stabbed Peter is ass to use as evidence for this fight...
Ok thats weird why again is it when Spider-man fans say Wolverine shouldn't be able to hit Spider-man because he is faster more agile and has pre cog, but then Wolverine fans say he can make a mistake which quite correct, but then turn around and say Wolverine can never be hit by webbing because he is fast and agile, why isn't it possible for Logan to make a mistake also? Especialy if Spider-man is using a blanket of webbing or such to slow him down then pouring the webbing on?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Wolverine did no cutting of the web during that sparring match. He just MYSTICALLY pulled away from the wall.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Spidey probably didn't dodge it since HE DIDN'T THINK WOLVERINE WOULD STAB HIM. This is not a hard concept to understand.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
They were teammates, sparring in order to better themselves. Sparring = Not killing.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Otherwise Spidey could've literally dumped dozens of gallons of webbing on Wolverine, leaving him completely immobile.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And being Class 100 doesn't automatically give you superhuman durability to piercing damage. Using that as evidence doesn't work too well.
Originally posted by capt it up
So your using a one time deal as the end all? Lizard ahd his mouth wide open and was acting like a complete idiot. Logan ahs superhuman reflexes and agility a long with superhuman senses. Spiderman is not hitting any thing. Logan will simply dodge or cut the webbing. Also logans dodging and cutting feats>>>>webbing speed.He hit logan ounce in a combat situation and logan was simply charging him and did not attempt to dodge. Wanna go by showingd? If we are logan has far superior combat showings vs spiderman.
Lizard's speed and agility >>> Spider-Man's speed and agility >>> Wolverine's.
If Spider-Man could do that to Lizard, he can sure as hell do it to Wolverine.
And didn't even figure in reaction speed, but you don't want to go there.
Originally posted by capt it up
Pulled webbing a small amount of it off the wall whoopy. Not as if they have stated how storng organic webbing is/Yes when a person has a spider sense and his reflexes would automatically dodge if possible, not to mention he did attempt to dodge as you see him jump side ways.
True, but most fights don’t involve killing. Sparing=fighting.
Don’t recall him doing any thing like that with organic webbing. Not to mention logan could simply cut it.
Fine I use characters names. Ba’al, hulk, wendigo, rough-house,namor, tigershark and so on.
I do believe Peter was still using his web-fluid at the time. At least I think. Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
And about the spider-sense, Peter CAN ignore it. Yes, when he allows it to be it makes him move via instinct. But he can ignore it and perform his own movements. Which is almost certianly what he did there. His spider-sense cried out, but he ignored it, under the assumption that HIS TEAMMATE WOULD NOT STAB HIM.
That's faulty logic. Spidey's enemies are always trying to kill him. He just doesn't return the favor. Either way, sparring = not killing/going for a lethal move.
Logan can't cut webbing that he can't get to. Ie, if his arms are webbed, or if his legs are webbed and then he's yanked around. Pure momentum would keep his arms away from his legs.
All of the powerhouses you named still have fleshy-type skin. Meaning it can be cut. Still don't see your point.
Originally posted by capt it upDon’t recall him doing any thing like that with organic webbing. Not to mention logan could simply cut it.
the fact that he hasnt yet run out of organic webbing even in prolonged fights probaly means he could. And how could Logan cut it if he was physicly able to move.
Originally posted by capt it up
Also logans dodging and cutting feats>>>>webbing speed.
Spiderman has caught bullets after they were shot in his webbing after he made a shield with it.
Logan isn't fast enough nor strong enough to overcome Spiderman's webbing for a majority of wins based on previous showings with Spiderman's webs.
You're use of absolutes in describing Logan's actions gives you the loss in this discussion also I might add, that's just a nice bonus though🙂
Ok so I’ve decided that the usual posting that goes on in here is getting a little stale and it’s the same stuff over and over again (granted this will probably cause all that again) but I want to at least try to make it seem like I’ve backed up my argument this time.
So basically I’m going to make some scenario’s of why I think Spider-man wins the majority out of this fight and back it all up with scans and such instead of just making a random comment like normal, hopefully the Wolverine fans will then do the same for him to try and counter my arguments instead of just saying “He can hit Spider-man” or “He will cut his webbing to shit”
Scenario 1:
As the fight would start Spider-man would leap into the air and backwards while firing a sheet of webbing to slow Wolverine down this not only keeps him out Logan’s reach but will slow him down enough to allow Spider-man a better shot of his webbing. And when I say sheet of webbing I mean this kind…
And yes this is organic webbing so it can be done. Anyway once he has slowed Logan down doing this (Logan probably would have dived into it by accident) he can then proceed to unloading gallons of webbing over Logan thus he won’t be able to move and cut his way out of the webbing.. And I know people will say Logan could have cut through the sheet , but that was purely to slow him down so while Logan is cutting through Spider-man is firing off more webbing to incapacitate Logan all together.
And No Logan can’t break out of the webbing due to physical force as this scan will prove…
Scenario 2:
This is more of a argument for Classic Spider-man but I’ll still use it, basicly the fight starts and undoubtly Logan will move towards Spider-man, this time Spider-man will move towards Logan and just before he gets in Logans reach he will jump for the air throwing down one of his old web Cartridges at Logan who would have probably been in a mid leap and not have had time to avoid the cartridge, upon impact of Logan or the ground the cartridge would then begin to release webbing at Logan expanding all around him Sticking him in his place, Logan will try to slash free but the amount of webbing being produced from the cartridge is to much for Logan to cut at one time, once the webbing has finished expanding it will have formed a cocoon around Logan so he can no longer move his arms to break free, once again being incapacitated.
Scenario 3
This is a win with Iron Spidey armour, so anyway. As the fight starts Spider-man instantly leaps back and activates his stealth mode, this won’t fool Logan but it will still make Spider-man harder to find for him thus he has to pay a lot more attention to his senses, this could leave him open to attack because he is to busy trying to find Peter that he may take some hits. This is wear the Iron Spidey suit comes in again, he then uses the liquid metal abilities of the suit to create a claw on each arm this will do a lot more damage to Logan, now the fact that he can’t see peter and has to spend a lot of time trying to find him he can be slowed down by webbing and take a lot of damage with the “claws” Peter is using, while he is recovering from these wounds (what about 1 or 2 seconds) Peter can take this opportunity to once again web Logan and even use some of his liquid metal suit to wrap around Logan not only having the webbing to worry about but also the metal, now either Spider-man could continue to beat on Logan while he is completely tied down with metal and webbing and overload his healing factor (eventually) or he could just web him further thus incapacitating him yet again.
Scenario 4:
This next scenario has Spider-man and Wolverine moving at each other and Wolverine going in for attack Spider-man using his superior speed and agility and his Spider-sense manages to avoid these hits.
While at such a close range once again using his superior reflex he can aim webbing right for Logan’s face, when it hits undoubtly Logan will try to get it off with his hands/claws when he tries Spider-man can web his hands to his face in this position he wouldn’t be able to cut himself free then Spidey could pour on more webbing absoulty smoothening him in it and without air Logan would pass out thus another win for Spidey.
Scenario 5:
I suppose this could be highly debatable but I think it stands anyway, Spider-man and wolverine go toe to toe due to his superior strength and speed he can counter Logans moves and once again incapacitate him with his webbing when the opportunity arises Though this is a very risky strategy. Now I know people will say Logan is to skilled but Spider-man has had good showings against skiled opponents as well as bad ones.
This scan is more for the entertainment value than the debate but it helps slightly so….
Scenario 6:
This scenario is more reliant on the environment of a city such as New York, any way. The fight starts and Spider-man goes to a next street or so to get away from wolverine to retrieve a car he can then use this as a projectile to do some serious damage or even just to keep Wolverine on the move.
This scan has him lifting 2 cars and carrying them around the city so he should be able to throw one pretty fast and accurate enough to give Wolverine a good work out.
Or Spidey could rip a lamp post down to use as a weapon thus gaining longer reach, Logan may be able to cut it but Spider-man should be able to get some hits in before that happens, But the main point of using the environment is to get Wolverine dodging from one thing and leaving himself open to Spider-man’s webbing again.
Scenario 7:
This should be a interesting scenario when the fight starts Spider-man fires a stream of webbing at Wolverine either Wolverine chooses to dodge it or he can try to cut it, if he tries to cut it the webbing will then cover his claw, and spider-man can keep pouring on the webbing covering his claw giving it padding thus making it very ineffective, then while wolverine is trying to free it with his other claw’s Spider-man can web the hands together and then just string Wolverine up by them thus he will be incapacitated again.
But if Logan choose to avoid the webbing at the start Spider-man could just keep trying until he finally hit or Logan tried to cut the webbing.
Well that’s all of the scenario’s I can think of for the time being I would also like to add that Spider-man’s stamina will allow him to pull these off before he gets tired, for example he fought every single battle he had again one after the other in the story “happy birthday” and he was fine after that so its safe to assume the same can be said for this.
Well after all that I hope a Wolverine supporter will do the same and it might bring some depth back into this thread again.
As you can see I think Spider-man wins the majority 6/10 due to his webbing (seeing as all the scenario’s involve webbing Logan up)
Originally posted by Sparkz
Scenario 5:I suppose this could be highly debatable but I think it stands anyway, Spider-man and wolverine go toe to toe due to his superior strength and speed he can counter Logans moves and once again incapacitate him with his webbing when the opportunity arises Though this is a very risky strategy. Now I know people will say Logan is to skilled but Spider-man has had good showings against skiled opponents as well as bad ones.
This scan is more for the entertainment value than the debate but it helps slightly so….
Scenario 6:
This scenario is more reliant on the environment of a city such as New York, any way. The fight starts and Spider-man goes to a next street or so to get away from wolverine to retrieve a car he can then use this as a projectile to do some serious damage or even just to keep Wolverine on the move.
This scan has him lifting 2 cars and carrying them around the city so he should be able to throw one pretty fast and accurate enough to give Wolverine a good work out.
Or Spidey could rip a lamp post down to use as a weapon thus gaining longer reach, Logan may be able to cut it but Spider-man should be able to get some hits in before that happens, But the main point of using the environment is to get Wolverine dodging from one thing and leaving himself open to Spider-man’s webbing again.
Scenario 7:
This should be a interesting scenario when the fight starts Spider-man fires a stream of webbing at Wolverine either Wolverine chooses to dodge it or he can try to cut it, if he tries to cut it the webbing will then cover his claw, and spider-man can keep pouring on the webbing covering his claw giving it padding thus making it very ineffective, then while wolverine is trying to free it with his other claw’s Spider-man can web the hands together and then just string Wolverine up by them thus he will be incapacitated again.
But if Logan choose to avoid the webbing at the start Spider-man could just keep trying until he finally hit or Logan tried to cut the webbing.
Well that’s all of the scenario’s I can think of for the time being I would also like to add that Spider-man’s stamina will allow him to pull these off before he gets tired, for example he fought every single battle he had again one after the other in the story “happy birthday” and he was fine after that so its safe to assume the same can be said for this.
Well after all that I hope a Wolverine supporter will do the same and it might bring some depth back into this thread again.
As you can see I think Spider-man wins the majority 6/10 due to his webbing (seeing as all the scenario’s involve webbing Logan up)
Sparkz, kudos on that entire thing. Mad props for taking the time to post all of that. Good ol' comic evidence.
Spidey wins 6-7/10.
