Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Sparkz
Oops forgot scenario 1. Well it dosn't matter about making a web that size i'm just saying a large web should be easy to slow him down, and it slow Logan down mainly cause if he's lunging he's gonna dive into the webbing and need time (2 3 secs to cut out)

again, I don't understand why it would take longer for wolverine to cut through the webbing then it took BP, or TM...
both have human stats, and are subject to fatigue, wolverine isn't...
in any case, what if spiderman does this and the webbing hits logan though probably ineffectively?
that still doesn't stop wolverine's lunge.. his momentum will continue, and and now spiderman's again on the defensive, or he's stuck to wolverine via webbing.. hell... this stratgey could for all intents and purposes work against spidey. 😬

Originally posted by Sparkz
Also the second pics were to illistrate after spider-man poured webbing all over wolverine not the first web...and Wolverine shouldnt be able to pull free from gallons of webbing covering him.

And as for it setting what does it take like 2 or 3 seconds Wolverine isn't gonna rip out of that,it'll take to long to rip out of,

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm not confused i just thought it was funny. And I can't prove a negative so you must prove the positive.

falling from a building takes him what.. 2 3 4 seconds? wolverine's speedblitzed over 20 yards to get to a guy before he could pull a trigger. spiderman just doesn't have the time.

yeah, but like I said, when he started to attack he was visable again..

he did it twice though.. 😕
once in the main story arch... I think it's a general concensus around marvel that that's what should happen.

Yeah but the fact is while getting to the cartridge Spidey can be out of Wolverines reach, hell he could get it out ready before they start...

Fair enough then but I would have though he could attack while in stealth, he ran away from Stergon in stealth.

Maybe they like to see Cap looking good against spidey but anyway that was in a H2H confrontation which I made Spidey avoid in most of my scenarios.

Originally posted by jinzin
again, I don't understand why it would take longer for wolverine to cut through the webbing then it took BP, or TM...
both have human stats, and are subject to fatigue, wolverine isn't...
in any case, what if spiderman does this and the webbing hits logan though probably ineffectively?
that still doesn't stop wolverine's lunge.. his momentum will continue, and and now spiderman's again on the defensive, or he's stuck to wolverine via webbing.. hell... this stratgey could for all intents and purposes work against spidey. 😬

for the first part.. ahh okay, well no argument there.. but again giving spidey the benefit of the doubt.
for the second? why not? wolverine's faster movements are tiny fractions of a second... wolverine's already done it in the MK spidey fight anyways... seem like he can do it just fine.

gallons of webbing I think would stop Wolverines lunge after the first web slowed him down even very slightly, Look at it this way while wolverine slashing his way through the first web even with 1 swipe Spidey is hitting him with galloons of webbing from his second shot stopping him in his tracks.

As for in MK that wasn't alot of webbing if Spidey poured gallons over Wolvy then I doubt he could get free.

Originally posted by Sparkz
You make good points but the juggernaught pic was mainly just to show the way Spidey fights more than anything eles.

Also I get that he gets hit but when writers have him dodge bullets its because its a sever attack that could kill punches are a basic form of fighting with not much risk, I know Im nit picking there but still. Anyway i still see this being a viable stratagey though it is risky.

Originally posted by Sparkz
He may have been going through emtional trauma but he was very determained to save his child, that would cause him to fight alot harder than normal

Originally posted by Sparkz
Anyway what does not webbing DP have to do with my first scenario?

because in a fight, he couldn't... it's not on in fight option.

Originally posted by Sparkz
And I know i could have choose a better scan but I just think its awsome (had to fit it in somewhere)

Granted we never debate that yes but I thought I'd through it in there.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Oh well never mind then i would have thought that wolverine's claws would stick to webbing my bad.

And i would say the circumsatnces for Spidey webbing Wolverine have to be heavily set in his favour and in most of my scenarios its up to Spidey to put it in his favour so thats why i think Spidey wins the majority.

Originally posted by jinzin
I don't see what the danger of the attack has to do with spiderman's speed to react to it...

i'm refering it as more of a plot device put thats just me being picky you may as well ignore it cause those arguments don't get anywhere.

Originally posted by jinzin
or a lot less intelligently than normal... I don't wrestle bette when I'm under stress in a relationship or from family etc.. I wrestle worse.. angrier, and more determined.. but less skilled, less cunning, etc etc..

spiderman wanted to stop DP, why didn't he just cover him in the amount of webbing displayed in the first pic?

because in a fight, he couldn't... it's not on in fight option.

fair enough.

fair enough.

Well Spidey has never fought DP before and probaly dosn't know what powers he has, also DP had no weapons he probaly saw no reason to web DP up.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Yeah but the fact is while getting to the cartridge Spidey can be out of Wolverines reach, hell he could get it out ready before they start...

Originally posted by Sparkz
Fair enough then but I would have though he could attack while in stealth, he ran away from Stergon in stealth.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Maybe they like to see Cap looking good against spidey but anyway that was in a H2H confrontation which I made Spidey avoid in most of my scenarios.

Originally posted by Sparkz
gallons of webbing I think would stop Wolverines lunge after the first web slowed him down even very slightly,

Originally posted by Sparkz
Look at it this way while wolverine slashing his way through the first web even with 1 swipe Spidey is hitting him with galloons of webbing from his second shot stopping him in his tracks.

Originally posted by Sparkz
As for in MK that wasn't alot of webbing if Spidey poured gallons over Wolvy then I doubt he could get free.

Originally posted by Sparkz
i'm refering it as more of a plot device put thats just me being picky you may as well ignore it cause those arguments don't get anywhere.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Well Spidey has never fought DP before and probaly dosn't know what powers he has, also DP had no weapons he probaly saw no reason to web DP up.

Originally posted by jinzin
what I'm saying is... the first webbing attempt will be so ineffective that spidey won't have time to pour gallons on..

swiping at the webbing doesn't stop his momentum... the swipe will clear the webbing but his lunge won't change... there will be no chance for spiderman to start this second part of the stratgey... again... TM cut through contiunous webbing while closing the gap, BP swiped through webbing while closing the gab on spiderman and landing his next attack.... why does this change for wolverine?

again.. I'm not arguing against wolverine vs. gallons of webbing.. but against the scenarios that put him such precarious positions.

Ok I think your not getting what i'm trying to say Logan won't be closing the gap Spidey and Logan will Prob leap at the same time Sppidey being streonger and faster will stay in the air longer and move quicker, and swiping the webbing may not slow Logan down but when he swipes he then leaves himself open for Spider-man's webbing as he won't be able to do both at once. Clearer?

And i do think Spidey would have time to pour gallons on dosn't take alot for him to just keep his fingures on his palm does it.

Quadruple post. 😑 🤨

Originally posted by Sparkz
Ok I think your not getting what i'm trying to say Logan won't be closing the gap Spidey and Logan will Prob leap at the same time Sppidey being streonger and faster will stay in the air longer and move quicker, and swiping the webbing may not slow Logan down but when he swipes he then leaves himself open for Spider-man's webbing as he won't be able to do both at once. Clearer?

Originally posted by Sparkz
And i do think Spidey would have time to pour gallons on dosn't take alot for him to just keep his fingures on his palm does it.

Originally posted by Badabing
Quadruple post. 😑 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
so now spidey gets prep? and again he's not going to be out of wolverine's reach if wolverine wants to cover the gap.. he'll avoid being hit.. but he's going to be on the immediate defensive.

I don't know.. I haven't seen him land punches in stealth so that's why I asked..

granted... I just think that h2h scenarios are the most likely since that's obviously where wolverine's gonna take it.. lol.

No Spidey dosn't get prep but if you are both standing there waiting for a sign to start you wuld probaly be thinking of a stratagye Spidey may do that while waiting though its kind of a lame excuse i know.

And Spidey may be on the defensive, but whats it gonna take to throw a cartridge at wolverine while he is dodging.

As for the stealth I'd say he could but its uncomfired its assumed he can though...

I'd agree about H2H it was just something I threw in there showing a possible way he could win a H2H scenario.

Originally posted by jinzin
spidey was trying to stop/capture him.. isn't the best way to go about doing that by webbing him up?

maybe but he dosn't usualy pour gallons of webbing on a random "badguy"

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine can swipe and lunge at the same time.. so no that's not clearer... spiderman can keep jumping back to avoid logan but again.. that puts him on the defensive.. not in position to win a fight...

if wolverine stands there and takes it? no..

Spidey might be on the defensive but while Wolverine is lunging he can't avoid Spider-man's webbing can he?

And even if Wolverine tried to get out of the webbing he's gonna be slowed down to much to get away from all that webbing untill he can't move.

Originally posted by jinzin
super multi battle posting is my style.. common now you know that.. 😉

I noticed man this is tiring I'm gonna have to lie down. <<pant pant pant>>

Originally posted by jinzin
wolverine can swipe and lunge at the same time.. so no that's not clearer... spiderman can keep jumping back to avoid logan but again.. that puts him on the defensive.. not in position to win a fight...

Spiderman's webbing gives him the advantage he needs to pull off a win in a defensive position as well as spiderman's mobility.

Wolverine couldn't fight a defensive fight and garner a win if Parker stayed defensive as well, thats Spiderman's biggest advantage.