Off topic:
I'm sorry but I am fed up with people bashing Religion or religious people. They lack the insight, faith and open mind to ponder the possibilities of existence while preaching open mindedness. These so called "enlightened" place such a high value on diversity, freedom and an unimpeded dialogue unless it is a point of view which differs from their views. I guess almost 85% of the World's population is delusional. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
Sorry, rant over.
Spidey 6/10.
Originally posted by Badabing
Off topic:I'm sorry but I am fed up with people bashing Religion or religious people. They lack the insight, faith and open mind to ponder the possibilities of existence while preaching open mindedness. These so called "enlightened" place such a high value on diversity, freedom and an unimpeded dialogue unless it is a point of view which differs from their views. I guess almost 85% of the World's population is delusional. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
Sorry, rant over.Spidey 6/10.
wrong spidey 3/10
Originally posted by Sparkz
I find it strange how people can always say Spider-man go into a fist fight with Logan but if he makes one wrong move he gets stabbed, but if Spider-man tries to web Logan, Logan is suddenly going to gain an incredible ability of dodging webbing webbing and more webbing constantly at all times and if he does get hit he's going to cut through it at warp speed and get away from more of Spider-mans webs. I mean sure he can cut through it fast but what if it hits him in an arm and knocks him over, what if he is hit with a paste over his face he isn't going to be able to get it off before Spidey can get more webbing on him.And not only will he dodge all this webbing but he will be able to close the gap on the faster character and stab him.
It just seems to me that Wolverine shouldn't be able to get Spider-man if he fights at range and wants to stay there, especially in a cityscape. Yes if Spider-man fights at close range eventually he will be hit but the fact that people say that Wolverine will be able to cut webbing out of his way and still gain on Spider-man who could be jumping through the air and firing more webbing to slow Logan down and then tab Spidey just seems stupid to me.
Quoted for truth.
Spiderman doesn't have to fight Wolvie hand to hand at all. He's so fast. he can tag wolvie many times with a light pole or a car. Logan isn't invulnerable to a knock out from a mini van being thrown at him. Better yet swung at him with some handy webbing attacted. Ever been hit with a pill swung in a pillow case? Imagine a mini van or suv with some webbing. Same kind of thing. Spiderman wins.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Spiderman doesn't have to fight Wolvie hand to hand at all. He's so fast. he can tag wolvie many times with a light pole or a car. Logan isn't invulnerable to a knock out from a mini van being thrown at him.
I'm sure Logan can dodge a minivan faster than Spiderman can pick it up, aim it, and throw it
Originally posted by Badabing
Off topic:I'm sorry but I am fed up with people bashing Religion or religious people. They lack the insight, faith and open mind to ponder the possibilities of existence while preaching open mindedness. These so called "enlightened" place such a high value on diversity, freedom and an unimpeded dialogue unless it is a point of view which differs from their views. I guess almost 85% of the World's population is delusional. That is hypocrisy at its finest.
Sorry, rant over.Spidey 6/10.
I don't think most critics of religion have a problem with spirituality or a higher being, but it is the concept of organized religion bothers them. I mean religion teachs good and bad things, it just depends on how one interprets it. The problem some critics of religion may have is that religious people condemn others all because of some book written thousands of years ago and they criticize other religions for example christian taunting hindu ( and i'm only using the two as examples) and vice versa, both religions are based on faith but the some people argue for it as if it is fact . Ofcourse these people are not true representations of religion stands for, I mean some critics of religion claim religion is the cause of all wars, a claim I disagree with because we know the 20th century ( the bloodiest century) was not a war based on religion but ideaology. I dont belive a religious person is delusional as a matter of fact many people have done good because their religion teaches them to live a pious life, and i think it is unfair for those criticizing religious belivers as delusional because ultimately they become just as irrational as the extremists they despise.
oh and btw wolverine 5.5-6/10
Originally posted by marvelprince
I'll try to look it up.I read both of those scenes as happening at the same time. Cyke reaches forward and presses the button and at the same time thats happening Wolverine is drawing his sword. Regardless I'm not going to argue moving at ftl speeds.
"Here it comes" to me was prepping for the attack which was coming faster than he could dodge. Kind of like how Daredevil rolls with punches he can't dodge Wolverine preps himself. If Wolverine intended to not do anything to Spider-Man then why did jump at the chance to strike when Peter hesistated? He would have just stayed there smiling
he DID stay there smiling.. until peter exhausted himself.. 😕
if wolverine didn't want to be hit he could have easily just lashed out while he was on the ground being hit.. he didn't raise his hands they were at his sides.. that's why i read it that he let spidey attack him.. I mean his guard is up, there's no way peter would have landed that punch without getting nailed or at the very least scathed... all the sudden wolverine's guard is completely lowered and he's just sitting there taking it when he doesn't have to...
example: when thing but logan on his back and logan lashed out, thing was suddenly missing half a face... 😬
and as for his attacking peter afterwards.. again he did it after peter exhausted himself... if he wanted to kill peter he would have done it right here.. he didn't.
Originally posted by masterbruce
I'm sure Logan can dodge a minivan faster than Spiderman can pick it up, aim it, and throw it
Didn't Logan get hit by two speeding cars coming from opposite directions? Seemed like if he could've dodged them, he would've, for he REALLY did not seem to enjoy the resulting pain.
If those cars can hit him, a thrown car can hit him.
Just saying.
Anyone got that scan handy, by the way? I've seen it, but don't know where to find it.
Originally posted by Soljer
How do you beat someone who can cause GRIEVOUS mortal wounds to you with a single blow, and can shrug off any damage you deal to him?With range. Webbing nets Parker the win here, 10/10.
He can't take Logan in a melee.
Indeed as Spiderman Pulls a building wall on logan, or Hurls chunks of street at him. grabs logan by his feet with webbing and hurls logan into something hard enough to knock him out.
Originally posted by jinzin
well for one spiderman isn't wayyyy faster...two; spiderman's spider strength is practically a non factor against wolverine...
and spiderman's readily admitted on several occasions that his spider sense acts as an equilizer for his lack of formal training.
Maybe you should think getting that tattooed to your forehead so you wont have to keep repeating your self... 🙁
Originally posted by jinzin
well for one spiderman isn't wayyyy faster...two; spiderman's spider strength is practically a non factor against wolverine...
and spiderman's readily admitted on several occasions that his spider sense acts as an equilizer for his lack of formal training.
No one ever really did answer my previous post.
Can Wolverine do this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpeedAgility.jpg
Or this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpiderSpeed2.jpg
Or this?
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodge2rz5.jpg
All I'm saying is that Spider-Man moves insanely fast, and I don't see how Wolverine can compete in that category.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Didn't Logan get hit by two speeding cars coming from opposite directions? Seemed like if he could've dodged them, he would've, for he REALLY did not seem to enjoy the resulting pain.If those cars can hit him, a thrown car can hit him.
Just saying.
Anyone got that scan handy, by the way? I've seen it, but don't know where to find it.
Oooh! Goodie! I can play this game too!
Didn't Spiderman get SCHOOLED in a melee with Captain America?
Didn't Captain America come up on Spiderman too fast for Spiderman's friggin SPIDER SENSE to react?
Didn't Kraven teach Parker a thing or two?
If Kraven and Spiderman can hit him, Wolverine can hit him.
Just saying.
No hard feelings - just pointing out the failure of logic in your post.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
No one ever really did answer my previous post.Can Wolverine do this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpeedAgility.jpg
Or this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpiderSpeed2.jpg
Or this?
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodge2rz5.jpgAll I'm saying is that Spider-Man moves insanely fast, and I don't see how Wolverine can compete in that category.
Come on metalman, do you not remember the short, but determined 'debate' we had a little while back?
I'm not sure if I can say anything for the first scan off the top of my head, but I matched the second two with CAPTAIN AMERICA speed feats, much less Wolverine, who is usually regarded as slightly superior to Steve, physically speaking.
Let me reiterate my opinion about the whole 'speed' thing.
No one (well, at least not I) is arguing that Wolverine is as fast as Spiderman. I don't think ANYONE is actually arguing that Wolverine is FASTER than Spiderman.
The main thing being argued (by those of us who are coherent) is that what Spidey is doing to those cannon fodder soldiers in the scan you posted? He WON'T be doing to Captain America or Wolverine.
Does Spiderman have a speed advantage? Absolutely. However, it's like the speed advantage between two trained heavyweight boxers. It's there, it's an advantage, but it's not the sole deciding factor.
Wolverine and Spiderman are 'peers' in speed. Spiderman's a three time gold medal winning olympic runner wheras Wolverine's got a few bronze and silver medals.
Do you get the supposition? Spiderman's faster - absolutely. But he isn't smoking Wolverine by a half mile in a hundred meter dash, or anything.
Wolverine and Spiderman are BOTH champ heavyweight boxers - Spiderman's just a bit faster. It's not like Spidey is a champion heavyweight and Wolverine's a paraplegic.
