Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Started by jinzin1,019 pages

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No one ever really did answer my previous post.

Can Wolverine do this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpeedAgility.jpg

possibly... we've seen him dodging lazer fire carrying a girl on his back...

the only thing spiderman's doing there that's outside wolverine's capability to do is stick to walls..

sure spiderman saved someone in a compressed timeframe.. wolverine's done similar..

remember when nightcrawler was plummeting to his doom from 20 feet up?
and wolverine covered the distance to nightcralwers location, cut out a door shapped panal from the danger room walls, and then held the large metal plate under nightcrawler before nightcrawler even hit the floor?
comparible....

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpiderSpeed2.jpg

which part? moving in a blur or moving too fast for no name soldiers to react?

cause.. uhhh he HAS done that.. 😕

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or this?
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodge2rz5.jpg

All I'm saying is that Spider-Man moves insanely fast, and I don't see how Wolverine can compete in that category.


probably not actually.. though I would suggest that that's has more to do with spiderman's ability to contort his body out of the way of things.. I mean we've seen wolverine doding multiple lazers in the danger room (uncanny 106) even commenting how easy it is... but it's just nowhere near as pretty.. 😬

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No one ever really did answer my previous post.

Can Wolverine do this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpeedAgility.jpg

Or this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpiderSpeed2.jpg

Or this?
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodge2rz5.jpg

All I'm saying is that Spider-Man moves insanely fast, and I don't see how Wolverine can compete in that category.

He might not be able to replicate the second one but only because I'm not sure if he can push off the pillar with enough strength to propell himself to the next with the same speed as Spider-man... which is more of a strength thing then anything else.

Originally posted by jinzin
he DID stay there smiling.. until peter exhausted himself.. 😕

He did? Looked like he stayed there till he could find an opening.

Originally posted by jinzin
if wolverine didn't want to be hit he could have easily just lashed out while he was on the ground being hit.. he didn't raise his hands they were at his sides.. that's why i read it that he let spidey attack him.. I mean his guard is up, there's no way peter would have landed that punch without getting nailed or at the very least scathed... all the sudden wolverine's guard is completely lowered and he's just sitting there taking it when he doesn't have to...

You say he doesn't have to. I say he had no choice cause it was coming in too fast

Originally posted by jinzin
example: when thing but logan on his back and logan lashed out, thing was suddenly missing half a face... 😬

Thing has Spider-Man speed now?

Originally posted by jinzin
and as for his attacking peter afterwards.. again he did it after peter exhausted himself... if he wanted to kill peter he would have done it right here.. he didn't.

Again with Peter exhausting himself? He was pooped but it wasn't like he was too tired to go on, he just wanted to end it and when it came down to it he couldn't do it. Logan waited till Spider-Man hesitated and then took advantage of the moment.

Originally posted by Soljer
Let me reiterate my opinion about the whole 'speed' thing.

No one (well, at least not I) is arguing that Wolverine is as fast as Spiderman. I don't think ANYONE is actually arguing that Wolverine is FASTER than Spiderman.

The main thing being argued (by those of us who are coherent) is that what Spidey is doing to those cannon fodder soldiers in the scan you posted? He WON'T be doing to Captain America or Wolverine.

Does Spiderman have a speed advantage? Absolutely. However, it's like the speed advantage between two trained heavyweight boxers. It's there, it's an advantage, but it's not the sole deciding factor.

Wolverine and Spiderman are 'peers' in speed. Spiderman's a three time gold medal winning olympic runner wheras Wolverine's got a few bronze and silver medals.

Do you get the supposition? Spiderman's faster - absolutely. But he isn't smoking Wolverine by a half mile in a hundred meter dash, or anything.

Wolverine and Spiderman are BOTH champ heavyweight boxers - Spiderman's just a bit faster. It's not like Spidey is a champion heavyweight and Wolverine's a paraplegic.

Sure they're comparable, but not that close. I'd say Spider-Man is like the 12-time Olympic gold winner and Wolverine is that guy who just just missed placing 😛. Again, just look at their appearances concurrently and you'll see the obvious speed gap between them. I don't think Spider-Man's speed will be the deciding factor by any means, but I don't think Wolverine is going to be able to land hits on SM on a whim either.

Originally posted by marvelprince
He did? Looked like he stayed there till he could find an opening.

again he could have just waved his hands infront of himself, he wouldn't even have to try, his flailing arms have delt hulk damage... spiderman would have backed off plain and simple.. logan didn't strike back he just sat and smiled.. 😬

Originally posted by marvelprince
You say he doesn't have to. I say he had no choice cause it was coming in too fast.

yeah you say that, and yet wolverine's reacted to spiderman attacking him from behind and dodged it, and yet wolverine's been able to raise his claws in peter's face before peter could react.
His guard was up.... then his guard was down.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Thing has Spider-Man speed now?

I'm proving another point entirely.. 😬

Originally posted by marvelprince
Again with Peter exhausting himself? He was pooped but it wasn't like he was too tired to go on, he just wanted to end it and when it came down to it he couldn't do it. Logan waited till Spider-Man hesitated and then took advantage of the moment.

really?

"ive given him everything I got"
"my legs are jelly"
"I try to teach them to walk again, their slow learners"

he was out of options and he stopped attacking that's when wolverine struck back, if wolverine was really fighting spiderman he would have been claws out when he tackled peter, he would have been claws out when he punched him in the face, and he would have popped his claws in their supposed stalemate...

he didn't cause he wasn't...

Originally posted by marvelprince
Sure they're comparable, but not that close. I'd say Spider-Man is like the 12-time Olympic gold winner and Wolverine is that guy who just just missed placing . Again, just look at their appearances concurrently and you'll see the obvious speed gap between them. I don't think Spider-Man's speed will be the deciding factor by any means, but I don't think Wolverine is going to be able to land hits on SM on a whim either.

again I don't see that...

when they have feats of sheer speed posted side by side they are VERY comparible..

in fights, COMPARIBLE

in peter's head, comparible.

aside from stats that put peter at what? one class above wolverine?
i don't see much else to be placing that bet on to be honest.

Originally posted by marvelprince
Sure they're comparable, but not that close. I'd say Spider-Man is like the 12-time Olympic gold winner and Wolverine is that guy who just just missed placing 😛. Again, just look at their appearances concurrently and you'll see the obvious speed gap between them. I don't think Spider-Man's speed will be the deciding factor by any means, but I don't think Wolverine is going to be able to land hits on SM on a whim either.

More like Peter is the guy who wins the 100m dash and Wolverine is the guy who loses... with a time difference of fractions of a second.

😂

816 pages, the msot epic battle in the forum, and the poll is 3-2?!

...noticing that for the first time just made my day.

No, with more than a "couple fractions", more like, a couple seconds.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
😂

816 pages, the msot epic battle in the forum, and the poll is 3-2?!

...noticing that for the first time just made my day.

You realize, it's your fault, right?

😛.

The poll WAS in the hundreds, for EACH combatant. If I recall correctly, it was at about 55%/45% in favor of Spiderman. A new Spidey vs. Wolverine thread was made, and the two were merged, and the new poll over-rode the old poll.

Originally posted by Soljer
You realize, it's your fault, right?

😛.

The poll WAS in the hundreds, for EACH combatant. If I recall correctly, it was at about 55%/45% in favor of Spiderman. A new Spidey vs. Wolverine thread was made, and the two were merged, and the new poll over-rode the old poll.

The Batman vs. Spiderman was more horrid, some sock cheated on the polls until digi closed it... I think I remember who it was. 😆

Originally posted by Soljer
You realize, it's your fault, right?

😛.

The poll WAS in the hundreds, for EACH combatant. If I recall correctly, it was at about 55%/45% in favor of Spiderman. A new Spidey vs. Wolverine thread was made, and the two were merged, and the new poll over-rode the old poll.

Oh damn, I forgot about that.

😮

.....

😂

Originally posted by jinzin
again he could have just waved his hands infront of himself, he wouldn't even have to try, his flailing arms have delt hulk damage... spiderman would have backed off plain and simple.. logan didn't strike back he just sat and smiled.. 😬

Art shows flurry of punches, which again says to me that Wolverine couldn't react in time to even put up his guard much less wave his hands

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah you say that, and yet wolverine's reacted to spiderman attacking him from behind and dodged it, and yet wolverine's been able to raise his claws in peter's face before peter could react.
His guard was up.... then his guard was down.

From the backward attack to the punching in the face I'd say there is a rather obvious difference in terms of speed

Originally posted by jinzin
I'm proving another point entirely.. 😬

Which apparently went way over my head (sorry). I got from that you were saying if Wolverine could get Thing when Thing had him pinned why couldn't he do it to Spider-Man.

Originally posted by jinzin
really?

"ive given him everything I got"
"my legs are jelly"
"I try to teach them to walk again, their slow learners

Yup, really. My point was not to prove that he wasn't tired but that Wolverine didn't get him due to his exhaustion. He clearly could still on at that point even if later he mentions he's tired. Point was Logan only managed to get him when he hesitated. Period

Originally posted by jinzin
he was out of options and he stopped attacking that's when wolverine struck back, if wolverine was really fighting spiderman he would have been claws out when he tackled peter, he would have been claws out when he punched him in the face, and he would have popped his claws in their supposed stalemate...

And if Spider-Man was really fighting then he would have used his webs. It happens. Besides, what makes you so sure if the claws were out that Wolverine would be able to land the same blow? Spider-sense would react move strongly to a killing blow than it would to a love tap.

Originally posted by jinzin
when they have feats of sheer speed posted side by side they are VERY comparible..

Nightwing has comparable speed feats too. Is he as fast or faster than Wolverine. I'm pretty sure I mentioned relativity in comics a few times already.

Originally posted by jinzin
in fights, COMPARIBLE

Comparable? Yes. So close it won't make a difference? No.

Originally posted by jinzin
in peter's head, comparible.

The guy has next to no confidence in himself. He probably thinks Black Cat is comparable.

Originally posted by jinzin
aside from stats that put peter at what? one class above wolverine?
i don't see much else to be placing that bet on to be honest.

A few classes

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No one ever really did answer my previous post.

Can Wolverine do this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpeedAgility.jpg

I would say this is as impressive if not more so.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a2ba2451rt1.jpg

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or this?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/da_herbman/Spider%20SpeednAgility/SpiderSpeed2.jpg

Wolverine issue 40: This feat’s equally impressive if not more so. Logan dodging beam’s of light while carrying a girl.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Or this?
http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dodge2rz5.jpg

Marvel Team Up Spider-Man And Wolverine issue 117: Wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill wolverine takes out an army of harden warrior’s who are wielding Gun’s that firer laser’s and Logan dodges ever laser while taking out the army. It is even mention in the text.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
All I'm saying is that Spider-Man moves insanely fast, and I don't see how Wolverine can compete in that category.

I have yet to see a feat I can not match with one of Logan’s.

Originally posted by capt it up
I would say this is as impressive if not more so.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a2ba2451rt1.jpg

How do you even compare the two? They're two completely different feats. I don't see how you could accurately compare the two and say that they're similar. 😬

Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverine issue 40: This feat’s equally impressive if not more so. Logan dodging beam’s of light while carrying a girl.

http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?i...nannual2lt7.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/my.php?...nannual2uh5.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?...nannual2cl0.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?...nannual2du4.jpg

Spider-Man dodging Iron Man and his energy blasts while carrying a young boy. More impressive, no?

Originally posted by capt it up
Marvel Team Up Spider-Man And Wolverine issue 117: Wolverine using his agility and reflex and fighting skill wolverine takes out an army of harden warrior’s who are wielding Gun’s that firer laser’s and Logan dodges ever laser while taking out the army. It is even mention in the text.

Basically the same thing Spidey does to numerous hordes of enemies...?

I wonder if Spidey could get Logan into the figure four?

Originally posted by Ric Flair
I wonder if Spidey could get Logan into the figure four?

Wooooooooo! No way. The Nature Boy would wtfpwn Spidey if he tried the figure four.

What the hell is the figure four... 😕

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What the hell is the figure four... 😕
WTF!!!!!!!!!!! Where are you from?

BTW it's a wrestling move.

Haha, the Nature Boy! 😆

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
What the hell is the figure four... 😕

Freakin' Canadians. 🤪

😛 J/K bro.