In terms of being impressive, more so at least, I think with the armored van feet vs the danger room feet, the speeds compared are easily arguable over who was moving faster at the time, it could have been either Peter or Logan.
However, I think spiderman's feat is more impressive in terms of agility and nimbleness, which is one of the main reasons I give him the edge in this fight, negating his considerable strength advantage. Wolverine sprinted to the other side of a wide area and cut open a steel panel, catching Nightcralwer with it in only a page, however, Spiderman dove through the window of a moving van- i think the fact that it's moving is very important- grabbed the driver and forced his way out the back before it smashed into a wall.
It would take an insane amount of agility and reflexes for Peter to carry a man through a narrow truck and smash through the back door without injuring the man... the speed itself is not as impressive as some other feats i've seen from him, but in the reflexes dept., I think it's awesome.
Originally posted by marvelprince
Darn. Some sort of danger sense...that maybe alerts him to threats before they occur. Naw, naw. Thats ridiculous
spiderman has a spidersense , doncha know? that's why he NEVER gets hit by people MUCH slower than him, and never gets into DANGEROUS situations, and NEVER gets into trouble...cuz the spidersense is THAT AWESOME!
Originally posted by Jade Lightning
In terms of being impressive, more so at least, I think with the armored van feet vs the danger room feet, the speeds compared are easily arguable over who was moving faster at the time, it could have been either Peter or Logan.However, I think spiderman's feat is more impressive in terms of agility and nimbleness, which is one of the main reasons I give him the edge in this fight, negating his considerable strength advantage. Wolverine sprinted to the other side of a wide area and cut open a steel panel, catching Nightcralwer with it in only a page, however, Spiderman dove through the window of a moving van- i think the fact that it's moving is very important- grabbed the driver and forced his way out the back before it smashed into a wall.
It would take an insane amount of agility and reflexes for Peter to carry a man through a narrow truck and smash through the back door without injuring the man... the speed itself is not as impressive as some other feats i've seen from him, but in the reflexes dept., I think it's awesome.
Yes indeed, the fact they are trying to compare the two is silly really but what can you do, some folks are just jaded.
Originally posted by masterbruce
spiderman has a spidersense , doncha know? that's why he NEVER gets hit by people MUCH slower than him, and never gets into DANGEROUS situations, and NEVER gets into trouble...cuz the spidersense is THAT AWESOME!
Exactly. You summed it up nicely
Originally posted by Jade Lightning
In terms of being impressive, more so at least, I think with the armored van feet vs the danger room feet, the speeds compared are easily arguable over who was moving faster at the time, it could have been either Peter or Logan.However, I think spiderman's feat is more impressive in terms of agility and nimbleness, which is one of the main reasons I give him the edge in this fight, negating his considerable strength advantage. Wolverine sprinted to the other side of a wide area and cut open a steel panel, catching Nightcralwer with it in only a page, however, Spiderman dove through the window of a moving van- i think the fact that it's moving is very important- grabbed the driver and forced his way out the back before it smashed into a wall.
It would take an insane amount of agility and reflexes for Peter to carry a man through a narrow truck and smash through the back door without injuring the man... the speed itself is not as impressive as some other feats i've seen from him, but in the reflexes dept., I think it's awesome.
Honestly I see it as a good showing for both characters, but I think Spider-Man's is more impressive.
First off speeding van, close to Peter. Nightcrawler is KO'ed and falling (I don't think he's moving faster than the truck is moving), and he appears to be fairly high up in the air.
Secondly, the movements. Wolverine claws out the wall, grabs it and then slids the sheet under Nightcrawler. Spider-Man launches through the window, grabs the man and breaks out the back. Same right? Wrong considering Spider-Man is moving and doing this while in another moving vehicle.
I just don't see the Wolverine feat is more impressive.
Originally posted by capt it up
yes it is. you can keep saying it not won't make it true.
Not so much, kinda like your rocket comments yesterday.
This is why feats are all just subjective analysis anyway and there is no "logic" when debating comics.
Wolverine's feat was not anywhere near as impressive as Spiderman's. If you choose to believe otherwise thats clearly up to you however I can tell you that aside from cutting the wall to catch Nightcrawler, Wolverine's feat just makes me laugh to think you wanna use that as a speed/agility feat.
Originally posted by Soleran
Not so much, kinda like your rocket comments yesterday.This is why feats are all just subjective analysis anyway and there is no "logic" when debating comics.
Wolverine's feat was not anywhere near as impressive as Spiderman's. If you choose to believe otherwise thats clearly up to you however I can tell you that aside from cutting the wall to catch Nightcrawler, Wolverine's feat just makes me laugh to think you wanna use that as a speed/agility feat.
It was never ment to be an agility feat it was for speed.
first how it not as impressive? spiderman save a man from a car. wolverine from the other side of the room cut's out a door size piece of metal then get's night crawler before he fall's to his doom. night crawler was falling from what 4 feet in the air 5 top's
Spider-man was moving in a straight line for the van feat. Wolverine had to run across the room, cut out a 4x8 steel sheet form the wall, then move to the fire pit to catch Nightcrawler all before Kurt finished his five some odd foot decent. There is a lot more going on in Wolverine's feat then in Spider-mans. They are certainly both comparable but Wolverine's is the more impressive of the two.
Originally posted by capt it up
It was never ment to be an agility feat it was for speed.first how it not as impressive? spiderman save a man from a car. wolverine from the other side of the room cut's out a door size piece of metal then get's night crawler before he fall's to his doom. night crawler was falling from what 4 feet in the air 5 top's
I didn't see him run across the room, also I didn't see a distance mentioned at all in those captions hell he could have been 30 feet in the air, its all speculation.
You want to believe it was 4 or 5 feet well whatever, that's clearly your subjective analysis with ABSOLUTELY no real proof to back that up.
Because of that it's a total garbage feat in comparison to Spiderman's feat.
cut out a 4x8 steel sheet form the wall,
HAHA and more subjective analysis, where does it say 4x8 sheet? Where does it say 10 foot descent, Capt thought it was 4-5 so more specualtion. Thats right it doesn't so that would be you adding to the feat I see, hmm well that's ok it;s typical from several Wolverine posters in this thread to do that.
Originally posted by Soleran
I didn't see him run across the room, also I didn't see a distance mentioned at all in those captions hell he could have been 30 feet in the air, its all speculation.You want to believe it was 4 or 5 feet well whatever, that's clearly your subjective analysis with ABSOLUTELY no real proof to back that up.
Because of that it's a total garbage feat in comparison to Spiderman's feat.
Well, they do show a birds eye view of Nightcrawler falling into the fire pit before Wolverine starts hacking into the wall and then they show you the fire pit again with Kurt only inches from the flames when Wolverine saves him. If the dimensions of the pit are the same in both panels just in perspective (which they are) then he could have been no more then five feet above the flames before Wolverine reacted.
Originally posted by Soleran
I didn't see him run across the room, also I didn't see a distance mentioned at all in those captions hell he could have been 30 feet in the air, its all speculation.You want to believe it was 4 or 5 feet well whatever, that's clearly your subjective analysis with ABSOLUTELY no real proof to back that up.
Because of that it's a total garbage feat in comparison to Spiderman's feat.
ya it' is to bad I don't have the scann before the fall were it show's logan on the other end of the dangeroom. would you like me to give you the issue number?
My analysis is from looking at the picture and it clear night crawlers not very high.
why it garbage? becuase you dislike wolverine doing some thing as well or even better then spiderman?
Originally posted by Soleran
HAHA and more subjective analysis, where does it say 4x8 sheet? Where does it say 10 foot descent, Capt thought it was 4-5 so more specualtion. Thats right it doesn't so that would be you adding to the feat I see, hmm well that's ok it;s typical from several Wolverine posters in this thread to do that.
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They show Kurt laying on the metal panel Wolverine cut out of the wall... it really isn't that hard to make an educated guess as to what it's dimensions would be.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If the dimensions of the pit are the same in both panels just in perspective (which they are) then he could have been no more then five feet above the flames before Wolverine reacted.
Your reasoning is sensible enough however your measurements fail to meet with anything but another scrutinizing analysis.
How can you tell how far he is from the flames in a two dimensional picture without depth? Once again you are placing your wolverine biased subjective analysis which is severely skewed.