Wolverine vs. Spider-Man

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Even in an arena, Wolverine's going to escape this? 😑
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Deadpool/Building/Building_08.jpg

(Yes, I know those are the web-cartidges, but there has been no evidence to say that he can't still do that with his own organic webbing).

Even if he manages to slash through some of it, the sheer volume of it will quickly overwhelm him.

There is no evidence to support that he can do that with organic sadly.
Organic webbing must be self-made by some internal organ or body part,and this body part must take damage like any other if over-used,So if he is capable of making that with Organic he would either be exhausted or cause himself severe harm.What good is it to have webbed up the Wolverine if he collapses afterwards?He is unconscious and Wolvy is still Conscious slowly getting out of the webbing,If Wolverine gets out before he wakes up Spidey is dead.This is assuming Spidey can do it,but he has no feats with organic webbing that say he can,and therefore the strategy should be considered null until further evidence is shown,and my statistics still stand.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Even in an arena, Wolverine's going to escape this? 😑
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Deadpool/Building/Building_08.jpg

(Yes, I know those are the web-cartidges, but there has been no evidence to say that he can't still do that with his own organic webbing).

Even if he manages to slash through some of it, the sheer volume of it will quickly overwhelm him.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
According to capt, we must go by feats outside of their cross-overs.

Take it up with him, he said it.

Originally posted by carver9
I kind of agree with you except it should go like this

City wolverine 7/10
arena wolverine 8/10

🤨...Then how do you even agree with him at all? Even "kind of"? 🤨

Originally posted by carver9
Stop using this picture. How is spiderman going to escape something coming at him this fast.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg

Sidestep. Jump. Duck. Dodge. Roll. Weave. Feign. Move out of the way.

Originally posted by capt it up
Never said it was.

Was it moving fast yes. Was it moving so fast he could not fight back? Not likely sicne he let him self lose and was paid to let him self lose. So you think he be fighting just as hard as if he was not paid to lose?

Just becuase some agree with you does not make it true. Have you been able to prove spiderman faster? No I have matched every feat you put down.
In my opinion, you have yet to show Wolverine's equivalency in speed to Spider-Man.

Yes which many character can do. Does that mean he was smoving so fats he over whealmed his opponent? nope

Did he know spiderman could break it? Not likely. He was paid for the fight do you think he was not paid for the damages to his armor? What you think he was gunna simply lose with out his armor being damage? Does that even make sense?

It does since the character was letting spiderman beat him.

Would it be a strength feat yes. A speed feat no since colossus is allow him self to be beaten.

Ya know, capt. Sometimes you're really on the ball. Then sometimes you don't make much sense at all. And that rhymed.

No, you have not matched every feat that I've posted. You've told yourself that you've matched them, but I don't see it that way. Have you been able to prove Wolverine is faster? No.

And yes, I know the Colossus example was a strength feat. But that was the point, and it still got my point across just fine.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Ya know, capt. Sometimes you're really on the ball. Then sometimes you don't make much sense at all. And that rhymed.

No, you have not matched every feat that I've posted. You've told yourself that you've matched them, but I don't see it that way. Have you been able to prove Wolverine is faster? No.

And yes, I know the Colossus example was a strength feat. But that was the point, and it still got my point across just fine.

so wait yoru just gunna ignore my evidence that I have match every one of your feat's? that just funny. You can ignore it all you want but you have yet to put down a feat I can not match

Originally posted by Martian_mind
There is no evidence to support that he can do that with organic sadly.
Organic webbing must be self-made by some internal organ or body part,and this body part must take damage like any other if over-used,So if he is capable of making that with Organic he would either be exhausted or cause himself severe harm.What good is it to have webbed up the Wolverine if he collapses afterwards?He is unconscious and Wolvy is still Conscious slowly getting out of the webbing,If Wolverine gets out before he wakes up Spidey is dead.This is assuming Spidey can do it,but he has no feats with organic webbing that say he can,and therefore the strategy should be considered null until further evidence is shown,and my statistics still stand.

While I completely understand and relate to what you're saying, there hasn't been any evidence to show Spidey becoming fatigued from using a lot of web. Yes, he hasn't shot the organic web like that (yet), but he's still use A LOT of it in a short amount of time. It's not like he's stingy with it. And he has yet to show exhaustion from web-usage.

http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ve7.jpg
-I'd say that's a lot of webbing. And if the target wasn't so close, it looks like it would have a thick, very wide range. But hey, that's how I see it. Wouldn't you agree?

Just saying. It hasn't been proven that it can't yet either.

it must suck that I put down issue number's and titles sicne you don't own to many comics. Hell even if you did you would not own wolverine comics.

I like own all the comics I can of the people I debate against I even went out and got 550 or so more comic's of fantastic four just for that reason

Originally posted by capt it up
no you did nto get it acroos actaully you simply made spiderman feta a strength feat.

so wait yoru just gunna ignore my evidence that I have match every one of your feat's? that just funny. You can ignore it all you want but you have yet to put down a feat I can not match

Now you're just being mean. I've never once ignored the evidence you've posted. I've taken it all very much into consideration.

I find it funny how me feeling that they're not superior = ignoring them, like I MUST be ignoring them if I think the way I do. 🙄

No, capt. I've never ignored them. I just feel, after comparing of all the feats, that Spider-Man's are superior. While you feel that Wolverine's are equal or superior (for some reason).

And no, the point remains the same. I clearly just did not use the same kind of feat to get it across. 😉

Originally posted by capt it up
it must suck that I put down issue number's and titles sicne you don't own to many comics. Hell even if you did you would not own wolverine comics.

I like own all the comics I can of the people I debate against I even went out and got 550 or so more comic's of fantastic four just for that reason

And I would love to be able to own as many comics as you. I really would. And if I could afford so many comics, I actually WOULD own as much Wolverine as possible. Like I've told you before, I do like Wolverine. Quite a bit actually.

However, seeing as I don't own the necessary comics (while I actually do own a hefty amount), I use what I can from respect threads, which USUALLY post the context in which the scan is from, so I'm not just speculating. For the most part, if I feel that a certain scan was taken out of context, I won't use it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
While I completely understand and relate to what you're saying, there hasn't been any evidence to show Spidey becoming fatigued from using a lot of web. Yes, he hasn't shot the organic web like that (yet), but he's still use A LOT of it in a short amount of time. It's not like he's stingy with it. And he has yet to show exhaustion from web-usage.

http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=13ve7.jpg
-I'd say that's a lot of webbing. And if the target wasn't so close, it looks like it would have a thick, very wide range. But hey, that's how I see it. Wouldn't you agree?

Just saying. It hasn't been proven that it can't yet either.

Interesting....However it doesn't actually seem that thick as you can still see some batwings poking out at the front.I feel that we have to see more of organic webbing to judge totally as i feel quite confident in saying hat wolverines claws are longer and sharper than those wings.

I say that the webbing has a limit,like most fluid producing body parts,if a man rgasms too many times to quickly it starts to become very painful experience(and no i'm not speaking from personal knowledge)because your forcing it to act far quicker than normal,taxing it greatly,but as you said it's to early to judge.

I still feel my statistics are viable given the evidence.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Now you're just being mean. I've never once ignored the evidence you've posted. I've taken it all very much into consideration.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I find it funny how me feeling that they're not superior = ignoring them, like I MUST be ignoring them if I think the way I do. 🙄

Originally posted by Metalmanx
No, capt. I've never ignored them. I just feel, after comparing of all the feats, that Spider-Man's are superior. While you feel that Wolverine's are equal or superior (for some reason).

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And no, the point remains the same. I clearly just did not use the same kind of feat to get it across. 😉

no see how does that make sense. so a person fighting to win is just as good as some one fighting to lose?

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Interesting....However it doesn't actually seem that thick as you can still see some batwings poking out at the front.I feel that we have to see more of organic webbing to judge totally as i feel quite confident in saying hat wolverines claws are longer and sharper than those wings.

I say that the webbing has a limit,like most fluid producing body parts,if a man rgasms too many times to quickly it starts to become very painful experience(and no i'm not speaking from personal knowledge)because your forcing it to act far quicker than normal,taxing it greatly,but as you said it's to early to judge.

I still feel my statistics are viable given the evidence.

You sound like you're speaking from Capt it Up's expierience... 😖hifty:

Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman and punisher couldnt even sabertooth 1 on 1, what is spiderman going to do to wolverine. Can we all say that spiderman almost got killed
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742035
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742042
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742044

Originally posted by Metalmanx
And I would love to be able to own as many comics as you. I really would. And if I could afford so many comics, I actually WOULD own as much Wolverine as possible. Like I've told you before, I do like Wolverine. Quite a bit actually.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
However, seeing as I don't own the necessary comics (while I actually do own a hefty amount), I use what I can from respect threads, which USUALLY post the context in which the scan is from, so I'm not just speculating. For the most part, if I feel that a certain scan was taken out of context, I won't use it.

Yet you once asked me not to use scans form the respect thread which was funny since you use them more then I ever due since I rather just post the issue number and title since there better references

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Interesting....However it doesn't actually seem that thick as you can still see some batwings poking out at the front.I feel that we have to see more of organic webbing to judge totally as i feel quite confident in saying hat wolverines claws are longer and sharper than those wings.

I say that the webbing has a limit,like most fluid producing body parts,if a man rgasms too many times to quickly it starts to become very painful experience(and no i'm not speaking from personal knowledge)because your forcing it to act far quicker than normal,taxing it greatly,but as you said it's to early to judge.

I still feel my statistics are viable given the evidence.

I'll agree that more organic webbing showings would be quite beneficial. 🙂

Answer this Metalmanx, is spiderman speed, agility, and strength superior than kraven.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I'll agree that more organic webbing showings would be quite beneficial. 🙂

Exactly.

Originally posted by capt it up
you said I did not match your feat's which is bull shit.

no you pritty much ignore them I bet. not that it matter since I ahve match them all and that's all i care about. I am a facted based debater I am not very good at debating skill wise,

you never give good reason for why they are not you simply just say they are not or you simply say nothing. You can not say spidermans are superior since they have been matched every single time.

no see how does that make sense. so a person fighting to win is just as good as some one fighting to lose?

Clearly you didn't understand the point then. Unfortunately, I have no time to discuss it anymore tonight. Maybe tomorrow.

And no, capt. As much as you would love to believe it, I don't ignore your scans. And I've been giving reasons left and right as to why they aren't as good as Spidey's, which you just seem to ignore honestly. I've given my reasons as to why they aren't and that Spidey's are better, meaning that I don't feel that you've matched them. You can get mad all you want, but Wolverine's speed feats just don't seem comparable to Spider-Man's.

I, too, am a fact-based debator. I don't make wide speculations concerning outcomes of fights.

Originally posted by carver9
Answer this Metalmanx, is spiderman speed, agility, and strength superior than kraven.

...pinch

Yes.

Are Wolverine's?