Originally posted by carver9
😆The point of the scans is that wolverine is a better fighter than sabertooth, has a healing factor almost like sabertooth, and could be faster than sabertooth but spiderman lost to sabertooth and almost go killed, while having the aid of punisher. Thats my point.
All that happened was Sabretooth got his hand around Spider-man's throat because Spider-man was distracted when Punisher said he was in his line of fire. 😐
That hardly proves shit.
Originally posted by batdude123
All that happened was Sabretooth got his hand around Spider-man's throat because Spider-man was distracted when Punisher said he was in his line of fire. 😐That hardly proves shit.
It proves a lot of shit to me, some elephant shit.
What im seeing is spiderman jumping after sabertooth ending with sabertooth grabbing spiderman by the head and THEN grabbing spiderman by the neck and the sad thing about it was that it was both punisher and spiderman and it took them a hard time to bring sabertooth down.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I seriously don't think that Spider-Man fights fully against Cap. You see how he cries over him in recent post Death of Captain America comics - he's always intimidated against the man. He is his idol. Spidey goes "Wow CAP!!" every time he sees even a glimpse of red white and blue.
That still doesnt matter. Why because:
1. A robot clone of Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H
2. Civil War Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H, which therefore means the robot clone was correct.
3. Cap has taken on Spiderman villains such as the Scorpion. The Scorpion **** himself because Cap punches so hard.
Ok thats the end of that. 😐
Originally posted by jinzin
And how the hell does Spiderman make Wolverine "not have access to his claws"? WTF?
If Spiderman webs up his arms so even if he unseaths his claws he cant move his arms to cut himself out of the webbing. His claws are useless if he cant move his arms.
Originally posted by jinzin
No he didn't. the only time Wolverine's EVER had trouble with the webs was when he didn't have his claws out.. When he let them out he escaped in several panels.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=9076822
Yes look at these scans. It took Wolverine 3 panles to be able to break free using his strength. We can clearly see that a certain amount of webbing is able to give Wolverine trouble. All Spiderman has to do is increase the amount of webbing and he wont be able to break free.
Originally posted by jinzin
C-master was posing the argument that only famous heroes are the kinds of skilled fighters who give Spiderman a hard time, as though there's no merit behind the feats due to the fact that they're famous heroes alone. I just don't think that's the case, and those examples were' simply some of the reason as to why. 😉
Hes still using that rubbish argument, eventhough ive already told him the Enforcers have beaten Spiderman? The Enforcers...who? 😕
Well thats the end of that point, but im sure he'll get amnesia and bring it up again.
Originally posted by Alfheim
That still doesnt matter. Why because:1. A robot clone of Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H
2. Civil War Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H, which therefore means the robot clone was correct.
3. Cap has taken on Spiderman villains such as the Scorpion. The Scorpion **** himself because Cap punches so hard.Ok thats the end of that. 😐
If Spiderman webs up his arms so even if he unseaths his claws he cant move his arms to cut himself out of the webbing. His claws are useless if he cant move his arms.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=9076822
Yes look at these scans. It took Wolverine 3 panles to be able to break free using his strength. We can clearly see that a certain amount of webbing is able to give Wolverine trouble. All Spiderman has to do is increase the amount of webbing and he wont be able to break free.
Hes still using that rubbish argument, eventhough ive already told him the Enforcers have beaten Spiderman? The Enforcers...who? 😕
Well thats the end of that point, but im sure he'll get amnesia and bring it up again.
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Originally posted by AlfheimActually my argument was proven just fine and supported by the scans Darkcrawler put up. In a fight in the forum one on one with nothing working against him, (which you guys refuse to remember), those fighters you mention would lose horribly. I can name far more superpowered characters with LESS fighting skill that have owned and would own Cap and Wolverine in the forum than you can name less powered MA's, beating Spiderman. Alot of people have "given Spiderman trouble" when he wasn't serious (which he almost never is). That doesn't mean they can beat the said character.Hes still using that rubbish argument, eventhough ive already told him the Enforcers have beaten Spiderman? The Enforcers...who? 😕
Well thats the end of that point, but im sure he'll get amnesia and bring it up again.
You are the main one who has amnesia on the board my friend, you CONSTANTLY bring up the same things and get them debunked, only to bring them up again later on like noone said anything about them. I can really write a list but there's no need to.
Originally posted by carver9
It proves a lot of shit to me, some elephant shit.What im seeing is spiderman jumping after sabertooth ending with sabertooth grabbing spiderman by the head and THEN grabbing spiderman by the neck and the sad thing about it was that it was both punisher and spiderman and it took them a hard time to bring sabertooth down.
Nice try though.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Actually my argument was proven just fine and supported by the scans Darkcrawler put up. In a fight in the forum one on one with nothing working against him, (which you guys refuse to remember), those fighters you mention would lose horribly. I can name far more superpowered characters with LESS fighting skill that have owned and would own Cap and Wolverine in the forum than you can name less powered MA's, beating Spiderman. Alot of people have "given Spiderman trouble" when he wasn't serious (which he almost never is). That doesn't mean they can beat the said character.
DC put up some scans JInzin responded to them. Please read what he said DC partially agreed to what Jinzin said. Did you read it?
Originally posted by jinzinAns yet I brought up several examples of people doing the same thing not several months ago.
Not to mention the fact that I don't consider the Cat Shang's "near equal" when Shang "stops messing around"...
and not when the Cat's been jacked in 3 panels by Taskmaster and dropped by Cap while fighting two other villains Simultaneously..
Not to mention that the merit of Spidey doing well against Shang or anyone "near his equal" even matters here due to the sheer fact that Wolverine's beat Shang Chi in several panels without even trying.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Perhaps. I am not an expert on Cat, but thought that with him being a Shang-Chi archfoe, he would have at least challenged him on several occasions...
Oh yeah and Iron Fist has panwed the living **** out of Shen Kui he wasnt even trying. So basically Shin isnt that good.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You are the main one who has amnesia on the board my friend, you CONSTANTLY bring up the same things and get them debunked, only to bring them up again later on like noone said anything about them. I can really write a list but there's no need to.
Please read what Jin said and read what I said about Cap and respond.
Originally posted by Alfheim
That still doesnt matter. Why because:1. A robot clone of Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H
2. Civil War Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H, which therefore means the robot clone was correct.
3. Cap has taken on Spiderman villains such as the Scorpion. The Scorpion **** himself because Cap punches so hard.Ok thats the end of that. 😐
😂 I actually think Spiderman wins. Im just arguing because I think you dont listen. I want you to agree that Spiderman wins but not because you think you're right all the time
Originally posted by Alfheim
That still doesnt matter. Why because:1. A robot clone of Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H
2. Civil War Spiderman couldnt take CA in H2H, which therefore means the robot clone was correct.
3. Cap has taken on Spiderman villains such as the Scorpion. The Scorpion **** himself because Cap punches so hard.Ok thats the end of that. 😐
1. I don't think robot clones have anything to do with...anything? A robot clone isn't Spider-Man.
2. In Civil War fight it was specifically shown how intimidated and reclutant he was against Cap. He won't have an disability like that against Cap in a forum fight.
3. What does Scorpion have anything to do with this either?
I can find loads more people who agree with me, so that means little. The scans proved my point however.
Originally posted by AlfheimWhy did you quote yourself at the end, do you think that you don't listen?
DC put up some scans JInzin responded to them. Please read what he said DC partially agreed to what Jinzin said. Did you read it?Oh yeah and Iron Fist has panwed the living **** out of Shen Kui he wasnt even trying. So basically Shin isnt that good.
Please read what Jin said and read what I said about Cap and respond.
😂 I actually think Spiderman wins. Im just arguing because I think you dont listen. I want you to agree that Spiderman wins but not because you think you're right all the time
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
1. I don't think robot clones have anything to do with...anything? A robot clone isn't Spider-Man.
Please make an effort. It was a robot clone of Spiderman. What does this mean? It means that it well be similar to Spiderman, this is blantantly obvious. Therefore its a good piece of evidence and if it states that it cant take Cap in H2H there is a good possibility that Spiderman cant.
This is further reinforced by the fact that when Spiderman fought the clone the fight could have gone either way and was close.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
2. In Civil War fight it was specifically shown how intimidated and reclutant he was against Cap. He won't have an disability like that against Cap in a forum fight.
Look at point 1 and 3.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
3. What does Scorpion have anything to do with this either?
Again isnt it obvious? The villains that superheroes have usually tend to be around the same power level. Scorpion is supposed to be as strong as Spiderman and as fast but Cap has made Scorpion **** his pants. If Cap can take Scorpion he can take Spiderman even if hes not holding back.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I can find loads more people who agree with me, so that means little. The scans proved my point however.
No they dont. Do you want to go back now and actually read Jinzins response to the scans. Part of debating involves reading what the other person has posted, not ignoring it.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Why did you quote yourself at the end, do you think that you don't listen?
Do you see how you blantantly didnt answer or address any questions?
Originally posted by jinzin
from head to toe? Yes I suppose technically no. though the first comes damned close.. I'm fairly confident that's about has far covered in webbing as spiderman would get him in a fight more times than not.
* from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man%27s_powers_and_equipment#Webbing):
Upon release, the webbing dries into an extremely tough, flexible, adhesive fiber. One account described a single strand as stronger than piano wire and it is perhaps as strong as real spider silk or Kevlar. (Spider-Man has used web-shields on several occasions to protect himself from small-caliber bullets). In Spider-Man: The Ultimate Guide, one strand of webbing is described to be strong enough to bind the Hulk and hold him prisoner, but only if the Hulk were to hold still and let the webbing sufficiently dry. Also, according to recent volumes of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, the tensile strength of the webbing is equivalent to 120 lbs per square millimeter in cross-section and is comparable to nylon with extraordinary adhesive properties. Its exact composition is unknown, but after about an hour, the webbing breaks down, loses strength and eventually evaporates, since Spider-Man never intended to hold his captives forever.
* can Logan escape this type of webbing if Spidey really managed to cocoon him? and do you think, in a real fight, can Spidey successfully cocoon Logan with his webs?
I hope you know that a clone of something isn't like fighting the original. I sincerely hope you do, if you don't you are beyond all help.
Originally posted by AlfheimI'm sure I did twice, part of reading comprehension is to understand what that said person posted. I understand you have a problem with comprehending what people post, which has been seen by me and stated by several people of the forum. If I remember correctly, I posted nothing at you, you made a snide comment at me because you are bitter about the debunking of your silly argument at my forum. But when xmarks comments on you, you have a problem with it and begin to moan and pout, resort to petty insults and arguing. Yet you in the previous post, basically admit you were arguing for the sake of arguing. I smell hypocrisy. I answer what I wish, and there's no point on me going on a multiquote marathon with someone who will repeat the same thing over and over, and has the comprehension of a person half his age.No they dont. Do you want to go back now and actually read Jinzins response to the scans. Part of debating involves [B]reading
what the other person has posted, not ignoring it.Do you see how you blantantly didnt answer or address any questions? [/B]
For instance, you are horribly off topic, why is Captain America vs. Spiderman and Scorpion discussed here? Did you not know that Scorpion was beaten by Spiderman as well? Or that Red Skull was taken out by him in a page. Did you not remember that Spiderman ripped Iron Man's suit with his bare hands in the past, and that Iron Man beat Cap.
See how faulty your logic is? It's pointless ABC logic that leads to the same thing with the same person who never makes a point in the first place to begin with. I'm not mad, but I'm just being honest. You don't understand anything, and you put your foot in your mouth way too often. Like dismissing "real world" logic, then using it to back up your crashing arguments.
For Christs sake you can't even quote yourself correctly.
The sad thing is this thread is still going on when spiderman has never beat wolverine or cap in a fight. He dont even come close to beating them and i have put scans up to prove that.
Spiderman does terrible against great martial artist. Just ask wolverine, daredevil, captain america, silver samurai, etc.. He get his a** pimped.
Spiderman is a good character against brute opponents. But when it comes to people that are in wolverine and cap league he falls short. They have ways of circling around spiderman spidersense and finding a weekness, just ask cap when he through his shield at spiderman making him dodge it following behing it with a punch. Or wolverine making spiderman jump in the air ending with his claws in spiderman chest (marvel knight #13).
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I hope you know that a clone of something isn't like fighting the original. I sincerely hope you do, if you don't you are beyond all help.
C'mon man...please read and comprehend.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Please make an effort. It was a robot [B]clone of Spiderman. What does this mean? It means that it well be similar to Spiderman, this is blantantly obvious. Therefore its a good piece of evidence and if it states that it cant take Cap in H2H there is a good possibility that Spiderman cant.
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Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm sure I did twice, part of reading comprehension is to understand what that said person posted. I understand you have a problem with comprehending what people post, which has been seen by me and stated by several people of the forum. If I remember correctly, I posted nothing at you, you made a snide comment at me because you are bitter about the debunking of your silly argument at my forum. But when xmarks comments on you, you have a problem with it and begin to moan and pout, resort to petty insults and arguing.
Well no not at all admittedly that does happen but that because im ahot head. The difference im able to look to look back and admit my istakes you are not. The problem I have with xmarks is because even when im right he doesnt admit it.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
At least you seem to be grasping the distinction I have between a powerset and a feat.
The above quote is from Cap vs Luke Cage. Xmarks spent pages trying to tell me that I didnt understand, but in the end had to admit that I did. I will probably be told that it because I wasnt able to express myself instead of xmarks being honest and admitting he was being argumentative.
I cant be assed right now but I can give you other quotes of people agreeing with what im saying and I can find another quote of xmarks admiiting that the mods put an example of PIS under SvFL, which therefore justifies the point in me saying that SvFL are very similar. If you want to take all the negative examples thats up to you.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yet you in the previous post, basically admit you were arguing for the sake of arguing. I smell hypocrisy. I answer what I wish, and there's no point on me going on a multiquote marathon with someone who will repeat the same thing over and over, and has the comprehension of a person half his age.For instance, you are horribly off topic, why is Captain America vs. Spiderman and Scorpion discussed here? Did you not know that Scorpion was beaten by Spiderman as well? Or that Red Skull was taken out by him in a page. Did you not remember that Spiderman ripped Iron Man's suit with his bare hands in the past, and that Iron Man beat Cap.
See how faulty your logic is? It's pointless ABC logic that leads to the same thing with the same person who never makes a point in the first place to begin with. I'm not mad, but I'm just being honest. You don't understand anything, and you put your foot in your mouth way too often. Like dismissing "real world" logic, then using it to back up your crashing arguments.
For Christs sake you can't even quote yourself correctly.
Well its like this at the end of the day ive sent you a pm. But if you want to talk about me repeating myself I can get quotes of people saying the samething about you who are NOT fanboys. Hell you even have galan and jinzin on your own profile telling you that you're a ****. Hell I was looking through the Spiderman vs Wolverine the other day were srankmiising was calling you a brick wall and another poster was laughing at you.
The question is are you ever wrong, because basically if you admit it you're not.
I agree that Spiderman wins but how he does it is different. Cap is actually related to the thread but I cant be assed to explain.
Originally posted by Alfheima robot clone doesnt fight like the original ,have you ever seen hulks robot clone....the thing(FF4) beat the sh*t out of it
C'mon man...please read and comprehend.Well no not at all admittedly that does happen but that because im ahot head. The difference im able to look to look back and admit my istakes you are not. The problem I have with xmarks is because even when im right he doesnt admit it.
The above quote is from Cap vs Luke Cage. Xmarks spent pages trying to tell me that I didnt understand, but in the end had to admit that I did. I will probably be told that it because I wasnt able to express myself instead of xmarks being honest and admitting he was being argumentative.
I cant be assed right now but I can give you other quotes of people agreeing with what im saying and I can find another quote of xmarks admiiting that the mods put an example of PIS under SvFL, which therefore justifies the point in me saying that SvFL are very similar. If you want to take all the negative examples thats up to you.
Well its like this at the end of the day ive sent you a pm. But if you want to talk about me repeating myself I can get quotes of people saying the samething about you who are NOT fanboys. Hell you even have galan and jinzin on your own profile telling you that you're a ****. Hell I was looking through the Spiderman vs Wolverine the other day were srankmiising was calling you a brick wall and another poster was laughing at you.
The question is are you ever wrong, because basically if you admit it you're not.
I agree that Spiderman wins but how he does it is different. Cap is actually related to the thread but I cant be assed to explain.
Originally posted by strengthkills
a robot clone doesnt fight like the original ,have you ever seen hulks robot clone....the thing(FF4) beat the sh*t out of it
Bro did you see the point were I said that when Spiderman fought the clone the fight could have gone either way and was a close fight. Therefore reinforcing the fact that the robot was very much like Spiderman?
Wolverines theme music :
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/130832/bad_moon_rising/18%20Bad%20Moon%20Rising
Spideys themesong:
Alfheims themsesong:
http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/145157/macho_man/Village%20People%20-%20Macho%20Man