JEDI DEATH

HOW IS IT THAT QUI-GON NEVER DISAPPERED WHEN HE WAS KILLED?

cause it happens in ep2? 😕 😉

I MEAN WHEN OBI WAN WAS KILLED HE JUST DISAPPEARED AS DID YODA BUT QI-GON BODY WAS STILL AROUND AND EVENTUALLY BURNED. THIS GOES FOR VADER BUT I ASSUME THAT THIS IS BECAUSE HE IS HALF MACHINE. SO WHY DIDNT QUI-GONS BODY DISAPPEAR?

Isn't this like an Episode-II topic?

But welcome anyway.

cause this happened to qui gon in ep1, and obi wan disappeared in ep 4, and old anakin did it in ep 6. give it time to evolve. 🙄 😕

Must be why Bobdafish posted the same topic in the Episode I, IV-VI forum. 🙂

Sorry, this is an Episode 1 topic.

Moving...

And now continue on, thanks queeq!

Yes the question is why DO Obi-Wan and the others in the classic films disppear, not why Qui-Gon doesn't. They are the ones doing the extraordinary thing- Jedi do not, as a rule, disapeear when killed.

I believe he did not disapper because at that moment he wasn't one with the force. Obi-Wan and Yoda allowed themselves do die.

Originally posted by Ushgarak:
<STRONG>Jedi do not, as a rule, disapeear when killed.</STRONG>

If we take the Movies only count in true canon line then, as a rule, Jedi DO disappear.

Obi Wan Kenobi - Disappeared
Master Yoda - Disappeared
Qui Gon Jinn - Didn't Disappear.

That's 2 to 1 in favour of disappearance.

Also, does disappearance = ghosty appearances? Because Anakin appears as a Force Ghost at the end of ROTJ, yet we didn't see him disappear.

According to the 'Annotated Screenplays' Obi Wans disappearing and keeping his identity in the force after he was struck down by Vader is something that Yoda teaches him and he spends his time (between EIII and IV) in the Tatooine wastelands perfecting the art.

But not strictly canon, at this point. Though probably as close to canon as you'll get right now.

RC, that Vader does not know of either the disappearing or ghost tricks is canonical proof that Jedi do NOT do this as a rule when they die; GL's comments on this that it is something that Yoda and Obi-Wan discover in the next two episodes- very much re-inforce this. The lnik between disappearing and ghist form looks very, very strong to me. Anakin's ability to disappear (and it looks pretty damn certain that he did) is a mystery that will hopefully be explained.

ok just to be a bit difficult then who thaught Anakin this vanishing thing??? 😈

ARE YOU SAYING THAT ANIKIN AS VADAR DISAPPEARED. HOW DO WE NO THAT LUKE DIDNT JUST GRAB THE HELMET. I AGREE WITH LANCEWINDU, YODA AND OBI-WAN ALLOWED THEMSELVES TO DISAPPEAR.
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Ush, query. How do we know that Vader did not know this?

We don't even know how mandy Jedi Vader killed. As it stands, the answer to that is ONE, that being Obi Wan Kenobi.

Just a thought.

Hey, have you been hanging out with the Bush daughters tonight? 😉

I think that Anikin did not dissapear. But he did turn into a jedi ghost. He had no idea how to do it as seen by his surprise when he killed Obi.

Later (during the pyre?) he changed to the ghost.

My main point is if George meant for Anikin to dissipear we would see it just like with Yoda and Obi. ANd it has been said that this will be explained in EP2

BTW dont worry about posting spelling errors, most of these people missspell words by putting U's where they shouldnt be (IE colours) and they misspell Sabers (sabres) too. 😂

Are you refer to all those immigrants in the USA who forgot how to spell words when they got of the boats. 😂

Anyway, bck to the point. It was never completely explained if vader was surprised or not, though you are right that it appears that he was.

I guess there's an answer in II or III just waiting to jump out on us.

To be honest, we don't know if Anakin "disappeared" in ep6. Perhaps he does as Luke transports his body to Endor on the shuttle. Perhaps he doesn't. We have no concrete proof that Luke is burning the body of his father on the funeral pyre or merely the armour which sustained him. The fact that his "spirit" appears at the end with ob1 and yoda suggest that he did indeed become one with the force, but as for exactly when is unknown. Also, as far as dissappearing Jedi go, it is interesting that in ROTJ Obi, Yoda, and Pop Vader are all in spirit form only as LUKE remembers them. Whereas we the viewers, having seen eps I-III see them in their younger years. Perhaps Lucas is suggesting that these spirit jedi can only be seen in the minds' eye of the believer. I.E. no one other than Luke ever hears or sees obi1s' spirit in the orginial trilogy. It is interesting however that at the end of ROTJ that Leia seems to sense Luke is looking at something, but does not see it...perhaps forshadowing of her potential jedi powers?