JEDI DEATH

Wasn't there lines in the movies about being one with the force?
You disappear when you are going to die and can become one with the force.
Ratcat:
Think! If you are hit by a lightsabre your bodypart that is struck 'falls of" like Evazan in the cantina in ANH.
So if you were hit like OB1 in ANH you would fall in 2, he didn't so he died BEFORE being hit, making it a natural death I think

Yeah guys, I know about the whole force thing. I'm specifically wondering about the clothes. How come Yodas chlothes go with him, but Obi's and Vaders dont?

I don't know that, but may I remind you that it is Vaders ARMOR that doesn't disappear, it wasn't part of Annakin but of Vaders.
For Yoda I don't know, maybe an extension of the trick? Or because his MC-count his higher?

I see no reasons why the ghost forms should be stuck in the clothes they wore when they died; Anakin has his hair back, anyway. That is either the Jedi Robes he wanted to wear or Tatooine gear as a symbol of his home (the two are the same).

could just be a continuity error, i doubt there's a handbook on Jedi dieing and the protcal they have to follow.

Qui-Gon had more than enough time to do the trick if he knew it. He didn't because it is simply NOT what Jedi normally do!

Yes Ush, its a 'new trick' that Qui Gon dosent know.

Obi and Ani left their stuff and I havent seen lately, but I thought Yoda pulled his blanket around him so it could just be a continuity error or he is so powerfull that his robes went with him.

Either way we should find out in May 2002.

EP II: AOTC! (still getting used to it)

ummmm, what he going to disappear naked? did he take his blankie with him?

actually I think Yoda's clothes wer left as wel given they were the same color as the blanket you probably just didnt notice, its just the body that goes and allows the jedi to return, As such it is possible to burn the remnants in vaders case the shell.

As to Qui Gonn it would suggest Ush is right that it is a later trick on the grounds that whilst he didnt have to much time to ponder on his impending death, he did have time to chat about training the boy, so I tend to eblieve Ush on this one...

IF I remember correctly: I saw a few days ago TESB and I was thinking about this recent chain of events. I must admit that it isn't easy to see, but if you look good, you see that his sleeve ALSO disappear.

If you gong to run through semantics I think the whole point is to get the idea of the transformation.

They probably just removed Yoda as a whole so as not to bother fiddeling with diminishing clothes at the same time as the covers...

It is akin to the saber going through Obi wans clothes, OK the sabre never actually hit Obi wan as he disappeared but I'm sure it went through the clothes and you dont see them in rags on the floor...

but you can say then everything isn't so because for the easy they did it that way

WHEN OBI WAN IS STRUCK DOWN BY DARTH VADER HE SAYS "IF YOU STRIKE ME DOWN I WILL BECOME MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE" (OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.)

THIS PROVES THAT HE ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE STRUCK DOWN SO THAT HE COULD "SPEAK" TO LUKE FROM BEYOND. ALSO, THE FACT THAT VADER GOES OVER TO THE ROBE AN STEPS ON IT SHOWS THAT HE IS NOT AWARE OF THE USE OF THIS FUNCTION BECAUSE HE SEEMS BAFFLED BY WHAT HAS HAPPEN TO OBI WANS BODY. I THINK YODA DID ALLOW HIMSELF TO DIE SO THAT HE TOO COULD GUIDE LUKE FROM BEYOND WITHOUT THE DANGER OF BEING STRUCK DOWN IN THE FLESH.

AFTER THIS HAPPEN, THERE IS TIME FOR THE EMPEROR AND VADER TO LEARN THIS TECHNIQUE BEFORE HE DIES IN E6. THERE IS NEVER PROOF THAT THE EMPEROR ACTUALLY DIES FROM HIS FALL DOWN THE SHAFT.....WHY WOULD THERE BE e7, e8 OR e9'S IF EVIL IS CRUSHED IN e6.

THEREFORE, I THINK THE SPRIRT THING IS TAUGHT TO THE JEDIS WITH THE HIGHEST MIDECLORIAN (SPELLING?) LEVELS. OR CANNOT BE LEARNED BY A JEDI WITH A LOWER MIDECLORIAN LEVEL. OR IS KEPT SECRET TO KEEP EVIL FROM ENTERING THIS SPIRIT FORM.
I THINK IN E3 LUCAS TRIED TO EXPLAIN THIS FUNCTION WHEN PALPETINE TELLS ANIKIN THAT HE KNOWS OF A WAY TO LIVE FOREVER.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS WHY DOES PALPETINE AGE SO MUCH BY USING THE ELECTRIC HANDS THING?

WHATS MOST BAFFLING BY THE DEATH OF ALL THE OTHER JEDIS IS THAT FACT THAT THEY WERE KILLED BY BLASTERS. WHY WOULDNT THERE KNOWLEDGE OF THE FORCE HAVE FORESEEN THE BLASTER SHOTS MOMENTS BEFORE THE SHOTS WERE FIRED AND WHY ARE THEIR REFLEXES THEY USED SO FLAWLESSLY BEFORE, NOT ENOUGH TO SAVE THEM BY THESE WEAK ATTACKS.

The Emperor's body died, but he became reborn again in a clone 6 years later.

Palpatine lied to Anakin about living longer and stopping death, in order to seduce him to the Dark.

Palpatine's face is controversial. Canonnically, the lightning is supposed to melt away his features.

Even Jedi can become overwhelmed by too many blaster shots.

you already contradicted yourself:
if jedi with high midichlorians can perform it, then Vader when he was Anakin, would have heard of this trick, no?

And yes, the chances that Palpatine lied about the ability to live forever are high since it was the perfect line to get Anakin to the Dark Side.

btw, could you not post in caps please?

Good Lord, as if this old bugbear needed to be brought up...

We all know the truth on this one now. No, it was never anything to do with destiny, or preparing for death, or any of the other rubbish people came up with; it was indeed a brand new trick, the only difference was that QGJ pioneered it- but not well enough for his body to fade into the Force and appear, only his voice could; he then taught Yoda and Obi-Wan.

QGJ was just the one good enough to do it, that's pretty much the way of it.

if u all saw rots then u would understand ✅