I think most Tool fans get into them by chance. That's what I love about Tool concerts, nobody is there by chance. It's not anyone there for a random night out. Everyone is there to appreciate the music because they love Tool.
They're a band that either get found by seeking them out, introduction from someone else or chance. It's never a passing thing from my experience.
-AC
hold up there, isn't this a blatant hypocritical statement from you. here you say:
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I think most Tool fans get into them by chance.
while only one post back you say:
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
99% of Tool fans are fanatical because they don't get into them by chance.
make up you mind.
and really:
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
They're a band that either get found by seeking them out, introduction from someone else or chance.
isn't that how EVERYONE finds out about bands. you really narrowed that down didn't you.
and finally:
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's disrespectful to pass something off as overrated purely coz you don't understand it because if you did, they wouldn't be overrated to you.
enough of this whole "people who don't like tool just don't understand them" bollocks, some people don't like them because (shock horror) they don't like the music.
As for the first part, it wasn't a contradiction but admittedly I didn't explain what I meant very well at all, so I apologise for the confusion.
What I mean is, it's not normally "Yeah you know, Tool are cool. I listen to them now and then" from my experience anyway. Every Tool fan that I've met up until coming on this board (even then it's rare) have been properly into the band, not some random "I listen to them here and there" fan.
"isn't that how EVERYONE finds out about bands. you really narrowed that down didn't you."
No Tool fan is a Tool fan because TRL recommended it to them or the billboard chart recommended it to them. It's either from a CREDIBLE media source, another Tool fan or by taking the gamble of buying the albums.
"enough of this whole "people who don't like tool just don't understand them" bollocks, some people don't like them because (shock horror) they don't like the music."
Enough with the misunderstanding of what I mean when I say "get", also.
If they don't like the music, fine. That is no reason to say that Tool aren't saying anything incredible with their lyrics because they are and alot of people who do not understand them, pass them off.
"Finally. Thanks."
Must have been nice for someone to come and attempt to do what you were failing at. Regardless, you created this thread called "Tool Bites", called them "Way way overrated" and when the same is done against you, it's a big problem.
-AC
"That's precisely why. I don't like Tool or their fans."
Hence the birth of this thread, which you still insist isn't a bashing thread.
It's bashing the band and it's fans by existing. To quote Tabby "Make your mind up".
EB, your friends must listen to excellent radio stations.
Even so, that's getting into it through music, hearing it. Not TRL or Billboard etc.
-AC
Re: Re: Tool bites.
Originally posted by brandino
to each his own and there is already a thread like this
they are overrated to you but to others they are not just a matter of opinionIf you try to tell me blink 182 simple plan or linkin parks lyrics are deeper then tools then your an idiot
I can barely understand what you're trying to say.
"Yeah, the same radio station that plays Nickelback and Papa Roach... Tool's pseudo-intellectual lyrics don't do much for me. Rather listen to some real stuff like Minutemen."
The point is, it's not getting into the band through visual. It's through music, which is what it should be. Radio 1 play stuff that is relatively unknown because some of the Hosts like great music yet they are obligated to play chart stuff because it's a radio show.
Just because Tool's lyrics don't do anything for you it doesn't mean they pseudo-intellectual. If they don't mean anything to you, fine. Is no reason to simply brush them off completely. Tool are no less real than minutemen.
-AC
I like some Tool's songs but as a whole album, I'm not a big fan. I also don't like the 10 minute long song where 2 minutes of it is static or some "groovy sounds". I always found NIN alot better.
And not too be rude, but Tool is a pretty big band so dont get off saying that thier underground, or you only hear Tool through Tool fans. Thats a load of balony, I heared them through MuchMusic and then on the most popular radio station in Ontario, Canada.
Well they aren't as unknown as you guys are making it seem.. the majority of the people I know who listen to rock at least know Tool, just not many people are actual Tool fans. And I'm basically talking about your average person not only people who are really into music. When it comes to rap fans that's a whole nother story though.. Even my dad knew who Tool were before I ever told him about them. They aren't "big" but they aren't underground either. They are becoming more and more well known.
"Well they aren't as unknown as you guys are making it seem.. "
People are making them seem more known that I am making them seem unknown. The fact that they are played along side bands that radio shows are obligated to play does not mean they are popular.
They aren't some huge band in America, they're more known than here but mostly by name. I know The Format, I couldn't go spouting off album names or multiple song titles though, because I only know OF them. Knowing OF a band and knowing ABOUT a band are two vastly different things.
When I say they're unknown, I'm from England. They're not really THAT big there, outside of knowing who they are. They're pretty much unknown here. I don't doubt it will increase with the new album but for a band around since 92 that has as much acclaim as they do from fans and critics alike in some cases, they're still relatively unknown to the general populace and mainstream media. Purely because they don't try to be known. It's not a goal.
-AC
i think everyone could come up with a band they like and someone else will dislike it. And then the person that disliked the first persons band, his favorite bad is horrible to someone else. I find it bothersome the host of this thread says that they don't like the fans of tool. That is there musical taste. Why would you judge the whole of one person on a band they find pleasure in.
I for one enjoy Tool very much. So many songs are verse verse chorus line chorus line verse verse bridge chorus line chorus line chorus line. If you listen to a tool song they tend to travel around and break outside the normal pop outline of how a song is constructed. And goodness don't think I mean every song, I don't mean all of them. Some songs are written very traditional. Also i have heard the bands lyrics been pounded too. Well I have to say its my guilty pleasure some of my favorite all time lyrics have come from tool, i say guilty pleasure because they are quite dark. But i enjoy them and thats all that matters to me as a fan. Also i love the guitar from tool and the vocals can go from savage to soothing. Thats why i like them. If you don't thats fine too, i am sure you have a band you like i don't care for as much myself. but i don't find that very wise or mature to judge a human being off of their music taste