I dont know why any of you are still arguing, i mean come on, juggernaut can knock hulk out hulk cannot knock juggernaut out. Throwing juggernaut in space, very original much like he does with abom, rhino, dr. samson, etc.
My point is simple much like the way some of you seem to think.
Blow to the coronal suture, the line of juncture of the frontal bone and the parietal bones, may cause death due to severe trauma to the cerebrum and disruptive stimulation of cranial nerves.
Blow to the frontal fontanel, the region between the forehead and the coronal suture that is exposed and seen to pulsate in a newborn infant, may cause death due to concussion and trauma to cranial nerves.
A fracture of the temporal region of the skull may result in middle meningeal hemorrhage. The artery is located in a grove in the skull and may be easily pinched during a skull fracture. If the artery is cut, there may be massive hemorrhage and quick death. A small leak may cause a extradural hematoma with delayed death.
Blow may strike the internal carotid vein A contusion may cause vessel wall spasm and restrict blood flow. Blow may cause a blood clot that may move to the brain and cause cerebral thrombosis and death.
Heavy blow may drive a broken bone into a lung and puncture the plurae (the thin sac membrane covering the lung) which may collapse the lung and lead to air starvation, dizziness, coma, and death.
If the solar plexus area is struck while inhaling, pancreas may compress on spine and split. Spasm of abdominal and intercostal rib muscles may cause respiratory paralysis and death.
these are few examples or what juggernaut can dish out and what hulk will not be able to take forever!!
To throw juggernaut into space he would have to pull back on him to get leverage then thrust him upward during that time juggernaut would backhand him like he did thor.
This fight comes down to who can take the bigger beating, and we all know that answere, whether you want to believe it or not is up to you this is my opinion and when juggernaut fights hulk again we will see what happends 👿
Now try to convince me hulk can do that to juggernaut 😆 😆 😆
"Now try to convince me hulk can do that to juggernaut"
Lets take into consideration that you are way smarter than Juggernaut who would never have any clue as to do any of that, just punch and stuff like he normally does, and you can put the theory to bed.
Juggernaut is a messed-up character. Very very imbalanced as I have pointed out before.
To me, the very notion that Juggernaut could beat The Incredible Hulk is hilarious.
Juggernaut got way too much credit from this thread being started.
-AC
why are we arguing points already dealt with. hulk as a character was written as a creature that really has the potential there to beat anyone.yes he loses, he has to for comics to be realistic but as a character \due to his limitless strength /rage can take anyone, and doesnt need ages to increase in strength like this room suggests, please stop suggesting this.
* juggie yes is unstoppable/invulnerable, yet like all characters till someone powerful enough negates this. cytorrak isnt limitless in power, and juggie only has access to a piece of this, and cant access more at will unlike the hulk so hulk could grow so powerful as to negate cytorraks spell. hence i think a fight to the finish would see hulk go beyond his strength against onslaught and hurt the unhurtable as as a character he has the ability to be written doing so. juggie on the other hand has nothing to hurt hulk with, hulk can stand up to 100 tonne members punching him most of the time.
* ABOM IS OVER TWICE AS STRONG AS HULK , when he was first created was even stronger. hulk has defeated him on that level of strength aswell as his more usual twice as strong level. any bio will tell u this.
Originally posted by Tough Guy
why are we arguing points already dealt with. hulk as a character was written as a creature that really has the potential there to beat anyone.yes he loses, he has to for comics to be realistic but as a character \due to his limitless strength /rage can take anyone, and doesnt need ages to increase in strength like this room suggests, please stop suggesting this.
* juggie yes is unstoppable/invulnerable, yet like all characters till someone powerful enough negates this. cytorrak isnt limitless in power, and juggie only has access to a piece of this, and cant access more at will unlike the hulk so hulk could grow so powerful as to negate cytorraks spell. hence i think a fight to the finish would see hulk go beyond his strength against onslaught and hurt the unhurtable as as a character he has the ability to be written doing so. juggie on the other hand has nothing to hurt hulk with, hulk can stand up to 100 tonne members punching him most of the time.
* ABOM IS OVER TWICE AS STRONG AS HULK , when he was first created was even stronger. hulk has defeated him on that level of strength aswell as his more usual twice as strong level. any bio will tell u this.
your not even arguing anymore all you are doing is "(cry hulk has unlimited strength that he has never reached before, hulk's physical strength will eventually destroy MAGIC that is marching in juggernauts very veins)"
"Hulk will beat him i say crybaby "
hey ill say it again untill i see him rip off galactus's arm and beat him with it, i dont believe he has unlimited strength. 😆
He may have the potential, but potential and having it is two different things. Show me facts, quotes, hell even show me a bio. Scan one of your magic cards that know everything.
now centauri, yes thats is funny juggernaut not being the brightest crayon in the box, but as strong as he is, and as big as his fist is, he could hit him any where in the face and cause all kinds of damage.
Being very strong and having a healing factor does not mean you cannot be knocked out, there is several ways to be knocked out by i will give one example.
there is a nerve in the back of your neck, (i forget what its called dont ask me) lets say juggernaut uppercuts him,ok, hulk's head jerks back pinching that nerve or popping that nerve real fast, its lights out. (it doesnt matter if he can heal or not) getting hit in the face you get dizzy, jarred, unconscious, not being able to see would mean he wouldnt be able to throw him into space 😆 (like he would anyway)
about being not unstoppable, he has been shown to be stopped, not really more like halted, war and thors godforce,
*sigh* fullmop ill start with war first ok, If you look at the comic you can see juggernaut pushing war all across africa, then you see the celestial energy and juggernauts magical energy, being that celestial power is unknown i think it is sorta ok for wars celestial power to halt him. (For crying out loud it was apoclypse that suped him up) anyways.
Thors godforce, i think this is one of juggernaut most impressive feats, (for being a two bit character crybaby ) lol tough guy cracks me up, anyway, yes it halted his forward progress although he said it wasnt fair that the ground under them was destroyed because he said he was winning and was about to regain his forward progress.
if he would of or could of is a mystery, but i believe him. 😄
The thing is Talon, you aren't saying anything Juggernaut Fan didn't say over the past 80 plus pages of this thread.
I countered each and every one of his points.
I won't do it again.
"about being not unstoppable, he has been shown to be stopped, not really more like halted, war and thors godforce,"
Halted is just another way of saying stopped.
-AC
Originally posted by Tough Guy
* ABOM IS OVER TWICE AS STRONG AS HULK , when he was first created was even stronger. hulk has defeated him on that level of strength aswell as his more usual twice as strong level. any bio will tell u this.
You STILL haven't provided me a link to "any bio" that will tell me that the Abomination is/was twice as strong as the Hulk.
Where are you getting your specific information? Provide me a link or state a resource where you're getting this info other than saying "any bio". I've asked you this numerous times already, yet you still won't provide me a simple link. Is that too much to ask? I'm interested in seeing where you get your information.
didn't juggs get access to all of cytoraks power during the eighth day storyline, and when thor tried to stop him he barely aknowledged his presence, in another comic juggs entire body apart from his skeleton and gem thingy was blasted away but he was still able to speak walk and fight showing that the magic involved in his power wont let him die ...... as is also shown in the "what if...." issue "kingdom of cain" where he is the only being to survive the sentinals radiation...... although the plants survived so maybe plantman did to....... that wasn't covered and isn't really relevant....... sorry.......... what i'm getting at is no amount of physical damage can kill juggy as long as he's still got the gem of cytorak (however it's spelled) and i recently read , in the profiles on the marvel website, that juggs can go without food, water, oxygen or sleep........ at least i think that's where i read it , i'll check later
so yeah................. i'm going with the juggernaut on this one........
(like you couldn't tell)
Originally posted by x_danny_x
Yeah, Onslaught, War Hulk, and Nimrod almost killed him and definately could of they wanted too or if their battles werent interrupted somehow
Didn't you say that already? And didn't someone already respond to it also? First thing, they didn't "almost" kill him. Onslaught said himself, he could not harm him while he was connected to his powers before trapping him in the gem. War beat Juggernaut, although Juggernaut did put up a good fight, but whether he could've actually killed him with the celestial energy surounding him is highly debateable. And Nimrod, he jammed his neural impulses, but I didn't see at any point where Nimrod had anything that would've come close to killing Juggernaut, and if you did please tell me when.
And Alpha, it's not all that hilarious that Juggernaut has a chance against Hulk. With all their fights, and Juggernaut's fights with other powerful characters, it's more than possible in my opinion. But, of course, I've given you all my views on this fight, and you know how I think it would go, so I won't repeat myself.
And Tough Guy, all that's been done is some people repeating the same thing the last 50 pages or so, but you're the last person to try to say anything though. All you've done is say the exact same thing since you've been coming here, while bring little to nothing to back up your claims. I've pretty much been done with this thread for a couple of months now, I've said everything I could possibly say, without repeating myself to arguements that have been repeated more than enough times in this thread.
He did when the thugs took him over, he had acess up to his 8th circle of magic out of 10, he was so powerful he was punching through dimensions and tearing open barriers just by stomping. He was at the point he could summon force-fields around him to resist all attacks of every form, this was even physical. He was using most of his psionic attacks too, he was basically every form of physical and mental damage combined into a human soul possible, and he was only at his 8th circle.
Cain Marko never bothered to actually train that hard to reach that power normally, but the thugs that took him over sure did, but he easily has the potential,
JUST LIKE HULK has the potential to be strong.
Yes, thats true, Juggernaut was burned all the way down to his helmet and skeleton, even when stripped of most of his power, D'spayre then stripped him down to the bone. That still hadn't stopped Juggernaut. The only way to kill Juggernaut is to separte him from his magics, then kill Cain Marko.
Something virtually no one here knows.
Yes, thats also true, as Ive brought up in my Juggernauts ability to easily drown the hulk, post. Juggernaut is impervious to all forms of mortal fuel levels. He cant die from supphocation, starvation, dehydration, sleep deprivation, illness, all physical attacks... ETC.
I STAND FULLY on the fact that... The only reason The Hulk would win a battle against Juggernaut is because The Hulk is immensely more popular and well known than Juggernaut, and all the fans would be mad if Juggernaut beat him.