Juggernaut or The Hulk?

"What do you mean immune to physical attacks doesnt make him invincible? Of course it doesnt dude... ive been talking about his fight with The hulk!"

Jesus Christ.

Look, one more time.

Invincible means UNKILLABLE, UNDEFEATABLE. Right? Juggernaut is neither. He is NOT invincible.

If you mean he is immune to physical attacks, you need to use the word "invulnerable."

-AC

Juggernaut is not immune to physical attack. He has a high degree of resistance, but is certainly not immune. Hulk is already faster than Juggernaut. Hulk would become so much stronger than Juggernaut, he would knock him unconsious. Juggernaut's strength is finite. Hulk's isn't.

Juggernaut is not immune to physical attack. He has a high degree of resistance, just like Hulk, but is certainly not immune. Hulk is already faster than Juggernaut. Hulk would become so much stronger than Juggernaut, he would knock him unconsious. Juggernaut's strength is finite. Hulk's isn't.

? Double post?

Juggernaut had the gem of Cytorrak ripped from his chest by Onslaught. Hulk ripped through Onslaught's armor like it was paper. You tell me who's stronger.

Yes, Juggernaut is IMMUNE TO PHYSICAL ATTACK... in means of... HE CANT BE KILLED BY IT.

Onslaught was a magical being, were talking about The Hulk.

The hulk DENTED Onslaughts armor, big difference from ripping through it.

"s, Juggernaut is IMMUNE TO PHYSICAL ATTACK... in means of... HE CANT BE KILLED BY IT."

That's still physical invulnerability. He can be killed overall.

He is not invincible, it's a fact.

-AC

Seriously, stop.

Juggernaut is 'unstoppable', which is at best, a bit of fat hype.

Then someone sneaked in invulnerable. Then invincible.

It's like Chinese Whispers.

Moreover, if he ever does get stopped, there's always some convenient little explanation for it, offered by someone whose grasp of English suggests they think comics are non-fiction.

If his 'unstoppable' accolade isn't even true, why should the ones that have sneakily been given to him be?

* tron, prove to me then that a being whose infinite physical power reaches such a level that being cannot overide the magic of cyttorak which is not infinite as we all seem to agree there being more powerful magic /powers etc around, and harm juggie.
* juggie cannot access cyttorak when he wants, hulk just needs to get angry to increase power/strength.
* lets not start talking exploding adrenal gands, look how logical is a magic gem stone?????
*hulks character is one developed to be ble to beat most heros, certainly ones the level of juggie should the story require it, and still stay within the confines of character. hence hulk lifts the unliftble, smashes the unsmashable etc, juggie is still susceptible to this. thats why hulk is written with no end to his strength, it means writers can always have him do that extra something to beat his opponent, or do the unthinkable. this in mind why he couldnt hurt juggie, or stop him is to me silly, of course he could as thats in his character. im not saying this would happen in a story, that would depend on the story obviously, but its within hulks characteristics to be able to get so strong cyttoraks power would end up nullified.

Actually Dragon, Hulk completely destroyed Onslaught's armor leaving only his essence. And Onslaught was not magical, he was the "indestructable" psionic energy of Charles Xavier and Magneto. You obviously haven't read The Onslaught Saga.

You are the definition of the term 'fanboy.'

Tron and maybe 2 others are the only people voting for Juggernaut and actually posting without becoming fanboys.

The only ones vehemently voting for Juggernaut are fanboys who post the same thing every single time. The ones voting for Hulk are even still proving that he'd win by makin sense and posting new things each time. I think that alone displays the winner.

-AC

I still stand by the fact Juggernaut is immune to physical attack, and the hulks only attacks are indeed physical, making juggernaut unstoppable by The Hulk.

This thread is like that Energizer rabbit with the drum: It keeps going and going, and going and going and going...

"I still stand by the fact Juggernaut is immune to physical attack, and the hulks only attacks are indeed physical, making juggernaut unstoppable by The Hulk."

That is a fanboy comment if ever I saw one. You are making this fight seem so clean cut for the sake of giving Juggernaut the win.

Despicable.

-AC

For Jugg's power to be infinite Cytorak would have to be TOAA. Which we all know he isn't. It doesn't even make sense in comic logic that Juggs be "immune to physical harm." Resistant, yes, immune, not even close.

why would cyttorak have to be TOAA??? odin is considered omnipotent (infinite power). so is silver surfer. even magneto. not the most powerful beings, but have unlimited amounts of energies to call upon.

simply by saying that hulk has unlimited strength, by your logic, would then have to say that hulk would be TOAA. which is rather pathetic 😉

if juggernaut has a cap on durability.... then hulk has a cap on strength (he can only get SOOOO mad before he becomes a emotionless heap).

hulk is regarded as having boundless strength in mu, juggie according to this hread, boundless strength and invulnerability and forcefields all on an infinite power battery. now hulk is unlimited in strength as his character is defined on really bing able to do whatever is necassary should the story dictate it. im not sure that as cyttorak is not the most powerful u can define it as infinite, hulk only has a physical attribute that has no limit, not some magic powering up so that your guy is indestructable. im not sure that cyttorak really is regarded as infinite, and shouldnt be as there are others more powerful, no one is stronger potentially than hulk on a PHYICAL level, not even galactus , hell hes got power beyond belief but hulk theoretically can be physically as strong then stronger than anyone if pissed off. hence why i believe that cyttorak will only protect juggie from physical harm till there is someone able to negate cyttoraks magic by being that powerful on a physical level, hence why i see hulk more than capable of being written to hurt, or maim juggie should the story require this without breaking any character boundries

and remember juggie only has a portion of cyttoraks magic, not all, and has no wa of being able to tap into it at will any way so no matter how powerful cyttora is juggie only has access to a finite amount

"simply by saying that hulk has unlimited strength, by your logic, would then have to say that hulk would be TOAA. which is rather pathetic "

What the.

T.O.A.A has infinite power in every way shape and form. To claim that Cyttorak's power is infinite, puts him on that level. Which he is not, by any means. Cyttorak's power is finite. So is Hulk's, everything about Hulk is finite it seems, except for his strength which is unlimited and infinite, it's comic canon.

You either don't read the comics or just don't like the Hulk. OR you're just a.....dun dun dunnnn, fanboy.

-AC