Originally posted by Tough Guy
Right i nebver said hulk would beat Galactus. i said it is within the bounds of his character that he would get stronger physically, s he could anyone really.
* there is no argument here. its well within hulks character to get so pissed he gets so strong and overcomes cyttoraks magic.
You think that because Hulk has the potential to become the strongest one ever, he can defeat everyone ? Wrong. Strength isn't everything.
And don't forget Hulk has to live before he can get strong enough.He has been knocked down before he got mad enough... more than once...
who-kid is right.Hulk has been stopped before he could become a problem for his enemies.Considering that Juggernaut doesn't need to enrage, and hasn't show to be unsufficiently strong to do any physical task, i give him 50% chances as for Hulk, the madder he gets the stronger he gets doesn't count against a powerhouse that is smarter and knows that he's not fightning the last of the idiots but one of Earth greatest menaces
The hulk cant overcome MAGIC, tough guy, what are you smoking?
Yes, there are more powerful magics than cyttorak but were talking about The hulk.
Juggernaut has the power to stay alive longer than the hulk, hed eventually ware himself out, hes only mortal.
And yes, alpha, Juggernaut is infact a Vigilante. He, on several occasions, has taken the law into his own hand, not only taking it upon himself to destroy villains, but take out heroes also.
This doesnt make him a anti-hero though, because when hes rescueing someone he doesnt actually kill the person hes rescueing the other person from.
Like Venom is a anti-hero, because if someone steals a purse from an old lady, he wont take the guy to jail, he'll kill the guy who stole the purse, brutally murder him, and then return the purse.
Regardless, I still see no indication as to how The Hulk can overcome magic, or even reach his full potential in time before Juggernaut knocks his block off... and honestly, with juggernaut not needing oxygen, food or water, or sleep, How can the hulk outlast him in a fight?
"Juggernaut has the power to stay alive longer than the hulk, hed eventually ware himself out, hes only mortal."
Juggernaut isn't an immortal. Stop referring to him as such. The man is getting new abilities everyday because of you.
"And yes, alpha, Juggernaut is infact a Vigilante. He, on several occasions, has taken the law into his own hand, not only taking it upon himself to destroy villains, but take out heroes also."
That's not a vigilante, that's just a guy who goes around fighting. Punisher is a vigilante.
"and honestly, with juggernaut not needing oxygen, food or water, or sleep, How can the hulk outlast him in a fight?"
Well Hulk can't be drown and secondly, I really see no point in answering a question I have answered about 10 times in this whole thread. Everyone has seen and hopefully (and correctly) read my reasons as to why Hulk would win, whether they agree or not. You, as we discovered with all that "invincible" nonsense, need to be told the same thing many times. I won't do that again for you. It's a thread not kindergarten.
-AC
Hulk cannot die permanently. He cannot be drowned Juggernaut can be stripped of Cyttorak by a power such as Dr. Strange, or beaten unconscious. Both can lift far in excess of 100 tons. 1,000,000 tons is a more realistic level. However indetermined, Juggernaut's strength is finite. Hulk's strength is infinite. Hulk has also performed greater feats of strength.
Juggernaut is DEFINITELY a villain. He's insane, and he wants to kill Charles Xavier for Christ's sake. Give me one instance of Juggernaut being a Hero. The only reason he fought Onslaught is the fact that Onslaught is Xavier. He didn't do it to save the world. He could care less.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Juggernaut has the power to stay alive longer than the hulk, hed eventually ware himself out, hes only mortal."Juggernaut isn't an immortal. Stop referring to him as such. The man is getting new abilities everyday because of you.
"And yes, alpha, Juggernaut is infact a Vigilante. He, on several occasions, has taken the law into his own hand, not only taking it upon himself to destroy villains, but take out heroes also."
That's not a vigilante, that's just a guy who goes around fighting. Punisher is a vigilante.
"and honestly, with juggernaut not needing oxygen, food or water, or sleep, How can the hulk outlast him in a fight?"
Well Hulk can't be drown and secondly, I really see no point in answering a question I have answered about 10 times in this whole thread. Everyone has seen and hopefully (and correctly) read my reasons as to why Hulk would win, whether they agree or not. You, as we discovered with all that "invincible" nonsense, need to be told the same thing many times. I won't do that again for you. It's a thread not kindergarten.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Juggernaut is immortal."Hahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaha. Stupidest thing ever.
-AC
"Immortal in terms of aging, turn on your brain or you forget it at the bus stop?The magic of Cyttorak is his life battery, he doesn't need anything unless Cyttorak retake his power from The Juggernaut.Stupidest thing ever are fanboys arguing that Hulk can beat anyone cause he smash cause he's madder and BLABLABLA.
I read more bullshit on a thread where Hulk is mentioned that in a saturday night talk show."
Ohhhh, appears I hit a nerve. Now now K, is there any need for CHILDISH insults? I called it the stupidest thing ever coz......well it is. Can't you just play nice? Strange how the Juggernaut fans are first to call "FANBOY!" in this thread, first to start hurling abuse, first to start fabricating. You haven't show why Juggernaut could win, you've just come in and started saying "He can do this, he can do that. If you back Hulk and prove me wrong you're a fanboy".
However, if I might pray on your time for just a moment longer, I have a question. You said fanboys who argue that Hulk can beat anyone cause he quote "smash cause he's madder and BLABLABLA". Why did you say that to me? Because I have never nor will I ever be under the impression Hulk can beat anyone for the reasons you stated.
In a debate, there will be options to back or argue for. You are arguing (detrimentally) for Juggernaut. I am arguing for Hulk as are alot of people. How we are fan boys and you are just fans, I will never understand. Now, when you can debate without busting a brain vein, come back 🙂.
Oh and by the way K3VIL:
IMMORTAL:
Not subject to death: immortal deities.
It doesn't mention ageing. Yet another Juggernaut fanboy fantasy. I'm sick of proving you wrong.
-AC
I havent been adding new abilities to Juggernaut centauri, far as Juggernauts concernced as long as hes connected to Cyttorak his soul cannot be taken away.
The Hulk doesnt have to breathe? How gay, there making him more and more immortal for real by the second.
Immortality means life forever, So technically Juggernaut doesnt fit under-neath that, he cant die from normal terms... as ive been stating, aging is one of them.
Hes super immune, or just immune, to all forms of physical attack, the ONLY reason I still stand by Juggernauts side on this fight is because of his supreme invulnrebility to physical attacks. And, the only attacks The Hulk has are indeed, physical making Juggernaut barly scratched by them.
I may have misspelled "Barly"
"The Hulk doesnt have to breathe? How gay, there making him more and more immortal for real by the second."
Wait....wait just a second now. So you can call Juggernaut invincible (I know, you apologised for misunderstanding the word), immortal and unstoppable, of which he is none. Yet when Hulk is DISCOVERED to not have to breathe, it's trash? It's gay? Have we ever been given reason to believe Hulk HAD to breathe underwater? Has he ever been in a situation where he has been underwater and almost drown? No. Therefore YOU made the assumption he needed to breathe underwater. I didn't. The writers just brought it to the forefront.
They didn't bestow a quality upon him that he never had. They just brought one out that you never knew about. Juggernaut isn't immortal, it's not a matter of me not knowing he is. He actually isn't.
"Immortality means life forever, So technically Juggernaut doesnt fit under-neath that, he cant die from normal terms... as ive been stating, aging is one of them."
No no no. There's not "Technically Juggernaut doesn't fit under that..." and then some BS about he can't die from normal terms. It's "Juggernaut doesn't fit under immortality". End. That's the way it goes. The Jug fans on this thread are starting to redefine words in the dictionary just to back him up, it's pathetic.
-AC