I'm fed up with all this "Can't be moved" BS.
Juggernaut walks around going "Bahahahaha nobody can technically stop my forward movement."
Who has actually stood infront of him with the sole purpose of proving that theory wrong? Who has actually stated that their plan was never a defeat, but just to halt him, and tried it?
If Thanos, Hulk, Drax or Colossus at a stretch, actually stood infront of him with the sole purpose of JUST stopping him. I sincerely doubt he would just carry on about his day. Everyone is taking that term far to literally. He says nobody can stop him because his tag is "unstoppable".
-AC
You can clearly see the skull inside the helmet.
Are you sure it wasn't this one?
I prefer Juggernaut over Hulk, but those that says he cannot/never get knocked down, are you forgetting that guy with the purple and red armor, yes the one that throw him away from Canada to U.S.A.?And Juggy was not in good condition when he land.He was able to say only one thing:
Onslaught.Then he fall unconscious.
No, the pic I saw Swanky was Juggernaut as an actual skeleton.
I don't see how KillAll and Dragon's debate from way earlier of "Juggernaut's skin cannot be harmed" blah blah blah, still stand considering that he had it all burned away.
Conceivably his armour is the same metal as his helmet, so why did the helmet stay there?
Now, I openly admit that the Skeleton thing is in continuity coz it was published. However, doesn't anyone find it....I dunno.....slightly ridiculous?
Hulk can't hold up a mountain yet Juggernaut can walk around like a "Jason and the Argonauts" extra.
I find that weird.
-AC
In referenc to K3VIL's post, its well known that the entire Onslaught story arc is notorious for its plot holes and being full of inconsistencies.
Besides, this thread is about Hulk vs. the Juggernaut. It's not about whether or not anyone can stop the Juggernaut's forward movement. It's not about the Juggernaut vs. Onslaught.
The fact of the matter remains that the Hulk has NEVER physically knocked the Juggernaut unconscious. Nobody can dispute that. That plays a major factor as to who would win in a fight between the two. CAN the Hulk even physically render the Juggernaut unconscious at all?
As far as I'm concerned, a fight is technically over when one of the two combatants involved is rendered unconscious or cannot continue fighting.
The Hulk has been rendered unconscious plenty of times by opponents that aren't even on the same level of invincibility as the Juggernaut (ie. the Abomination, Iron Man, etc).
The Juggernaut has never been physically knocked out or unconscious by anyone, including the Hulk.
Do the math.
On a side note: the Hulk has been gassed unconscious on past occasions. This whole "Hulk doesn't need to breathe air" ability is ridiculous. It's as blatant and shameless a retcon as I've ever seen.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Conceivably his armour is the same metal as his helmet, so why did the helmet stay there?
The Juggernaut's helmet and armor are not made of the same metal. The two are made of separate materials. The Juggernaut's armor is a mystical fiber.
Well, that's the only picture I've seen where the credibility of the stunt was judged by the mistaken shape of Juggernaut's head.
His skin wasn't "burned" off. It was magically removed by a mage who had gotten some crazy artifact and leeched a bunch of Juggernaut's power beforehand.
His suit is made of some mystical fabric that came with the Juggernaut title and the helmet is something he made out of a metal from the crimson cosmos. Why didn't it disappear too? Who knows.
Is it strange that Juggernaut can survive as bare bones or walk under his own power when not touching the ground or punch through dimensions? Yeah, but that's magic. Magic doesn't have to obey the laws of physics.
"That plays a major factor as to who would win in a fight between the two. CAN the Hulk even physically render the Juggernaut unconscious at all?
As far as I'm concerned, a fight is technically over when one of the two combatants involved is rendered unconscious or cannot continue fighting."
So then by that rationale, many of the victories in Marvel do not count.
This isn't about how you believe a fight is won. Spider-Man has beat Goblin without knocking him unconscious etc.
"His suit is made of some mystical fabric that came with the Juggernaut title and the helmet is something he made out of a metal from the crimson cosmos. Why didn't it disappear too? Who knows."
Someone has described his suit as armour before hand, multiple times.
Never heard of fabric armour. But that's just me, maybe it is armour maybe it's fabric. Either way, was just a point.
"The Hulk has been rendered unconscious plenty of times by opponents that aren't even on the same level of invincibility as the Juggernaut (ie. the Abomination, Iron Man, etc).
The Juggernaut has never been physically knocked out or unconscious by anyone, including the Hulk.
Do the math."
A) Juggernaut isn't on any level of invincibility. Scrap that.
B) Abomination has fought the Hulk twice. Hulk has beat him emphatically both times. Last time he and Iron-Man fought, Hulk won.
C) The Hulk has knocked Juggernaut out before, he didn't do it physically either. I've been waiting to bring this up but it seems no one has.
Now you do the math.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So then by that rationale, many of the victories in Marvel do not count.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) Juggernaut isn't on any level of invincibility. Scrap that.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
B) Abomination has fought the Hulk twice. Hulk has beat him emphatically both times. Last time he and Iron-Man fought, Hulk won.
Irrelevant. Obviously, you're not comprehending. The whole point of my statement was not about who won or got beaten most recently. My point is that the Hulk has been rendered unconscious by opponents that aren't on the same level of invincibility as the Juggernaut.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
C) The Hulk has knocked Juggernaut out before, he didn't do it physically either. I've been waiting to bring this up but it seems no one has.
Again, you're missing the point. Read my past posts. Time and time again, I've stated that the Hulk has NEVER physically knocked the Juggernaut out or rendered him unconscious. The Hulk knocking the Juggernaut out in a non-physical manner is completely and totally irrelevant. The Hulk is not a natural telepath, nor does he have psionic or mystical powers (all of which are the Juggernaut's weaknesses).
The Hulk is not going to use those powers in an encounter with the Juggernaut. The Hulk is going to come at the Juggernaut with physical force. The Hulk can't even physically knock out the Juggernaut. How is he going to win a straight up fight between the two?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Never heard of fabric armour.
Ever heard of Kevlar?
