Juggernaut or The Hulk?

I've read the Secret Wars recently...Hulk is by no means an intellectual during the Secret Wars. He's no neanderthal but he is using short unintelligent sentences.

Titania and a couple of other baddies started their assault on the good guys, who were fleeing from Captain America's recently destroyed base. Hulk was like carrying 4 super heroes, and when the good guys ran away, the bad guys started hurling huge pieces of Captain America's base of operations at the good guys. Iron man blasts one piece that was thrown into several thousand pieces helping to protect the already fatigued good guys.

Then Owen (molecule man) lifts up this mountain range and drops it on them. I think the reason why the impact of the mountain being dropped on the planet didn't destroy it because 1. hulk caught it 2. Beyonder built the planet out of several different pieces of other planets and pieces them together using his awesome power. I think that power held the planet together regardless of what damage it took. Even blasts from Galacticus.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
I've read the Secret Wars recently...Hulk is by no means an intellectual during the Secret Wars. He's no neanderthal but he is using short unintelligent sentences.

Wrong, he was an intellectual !! It was Banner who controlled Hulk (I looked it up). Here are some quotes that prove he uses normal sentences and can even distinct photon beams from other beams (sentences are all roughly translated) :

"My apologies for what I've said, dr. Banner, I only wanted to (and so on) ..." Reed Richards said.
"Yeah I know (...) I'm not as stupid as you think." Hulk said.

"It's over there, Spider-Man. You think of something, and it produces exactly what you want."

"Photon beams".

"Torch, if you can bend this ultrahard metal with your bare hands, you can boss me around !"

"Hm, magnetic vibrations. He can obvious fly by "floating" on the electromagnetic field that surrounds every planet."

Are these short unintelligent sentences ? No, just Banner speaking. It's true he was very touchy and he was afraid he was losing his intelligence. But this didn't happen in Secret Wars.

But the ultimate proof : at some point in Secret Wars Hulk says : "I doubt it. Since I got the intelligence of dr. Banner, I never become truly enraged."

Who has more wins? Is it the Hulk? Or is it Juggernaut?

Um...Hulk has more wins...shit, Hulk prolly owns more shoes than Juggernaut has comic book appearances...anyway about the secret war hulk thing...u guys r both kinda right....it is the Banner Hulk but he has difficulty staying in control...when he is fighting he sometimes loses it, and sometimes he is losing it for no reason...just look at the Hulk plot around this time, he was "Banner Hulk", but he eventually loses that intelligence...im not sure what issue, but there is a frame where he is thinking to himself about how he doesnt want the heroes around him to know he is turning back into a dumb brute again.

Originally posted by SuperDarryl
Who has more wins? Is it the Hulk? Or is it Juggernaut?

if you mean more wins out of Juggernaut vs. hulk. then it's a draw. both have 1 clean victory over the other. then the other 2 battles were inconclusive. both of thier victories are tainted also.

But the victory juggernaut had over the hulk was a very clean win because hulk didnt know it was juggernaut so he was pretty much letting juggernaut hit him cuase he didnt expect it to even hurt

Well, I'm sorry, people, but I have to go with Juggernaut. Though Hulk beats Juggy in agility, Juggernaut beats him in strength, Though Hulk gets stronger as he becomes more enraged, soon enough, hulk's rage would consume him and he would be so mad he wouldn't pay attention, giving Juggy a win. And besides, juggy is unstoppable and indestructable. Nothing can stop him,and that includes the hulk.

😄 I think this "Unstoppable" thing has been discussed over already.

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
if you mean more wins out of Juggernaut vs. hulk. then it's a draw. both have 1 clean victory over the other. then the other 2 battles were inconclusive. both of thier victories are tainted also.

I was actually asking who had more victory's overall. Which character totals the most azz kicking, Juggernaut or The Hulk. Who busted more azz over the time span of when they were created to today. I didn't know thats why I'am asking. Someone here has to know who has more wins out of the two guys.

hulk

Jugs is a villain...if he had any victories then he would rule the world or something....he has always been beaten in the end...the only time Hulk has been decisively beaten is by the U-foes...fantastic four once...hmmm....Hulk basically always wins....Juggernaut almost always loses...cuz he's a villain...and most often at the hands of the x-men.....most people consider his fight with spidey a win for spidey...and Nimrod certainly trashed him very badly...

Originally posted by Wynndar
Jugs is a villain...if he had any victories then he would rule the world or something....he has always been beaten in the end...the only time Hulk has been decisively beaten is by the U-foes...fantastic four once...hmmm....Hulk basically always wins....Juggernaut almost always loses...cuz he's a villain...and most often at the hands of the x-men.....most people consider his fight with spidey a win for spidey...and Nimrod certainly trashed him very badly...

but more often than not, it is because of his weakness..... telepathy. plus he has soundly beaten thor, hulk, knocked colossus out twice with a single punch..... defeated d'spayre (with help). knocked out rhino rather easily (in a depowered state) which rhino has given hulk fits at times.... has easily knocked out thing (which holds his own with hulk at times) took down the 7 other exemplars, which in turn defeated 13 avengers ironman, and thor included in the bunch. juggernaut usually always falls to a telepath, physically however........

Originally posted by SUPERMANDAMAN
But the victory juggernaut had over the hulk was a very clean win because hulk didnt know it was juggernaut so he was pretty much letting juggernaut hit him cuase he didnt expect it to even hurt

and the only win hulk has over juggernaut, is because he was amped up emmensly in more ways than one. he has never defeated juggernaut on his own power, without outside assistance.

Originally posted by SuperDarryl
I was actually asking who had more victory's overall. Which character totals the most azz kicking, Juggernaut or The Hulk. Who busted more azz over the time span of when they were created to today. I didn't know thats why I'am asking. Someone here has to know who has more wins out of the two guys.

as for this...... hulk probably has more wins and more loses, because he has his own continuing comic, where juggernaut makes cameo's until he joined the x-men rescently as the imposternaut.

Juggenaut joined the X-men as imposternaut?? that SUX

he's still called the "juggernaut" but this version of him has gone through drastic changes. you can't draw a line from the previous/classic juggernaut to the "imposternaut" who now appears in uncanny x-men.

Ow....well i just forget he ever was a part of the x-men 😉...cause he was born to be the villain🙂

he's not a villain anymore. he joined the x-men. now he's a "good guy". this new writer they had on the book really diminished the character in my eyes.

I think that if the best Juggernaut and the best Hulk had another fight, The Hulk may win, or it could be Juggernaut, hard to tell, the writers pretty much write who they want to win, and make up the outcome generally, no really based on the truth of the characters. But, I'am a Hulk fan and always will be, so I say Hulk will take Juggernaut all the way...

Hulk would take accroding to Stats.