Juggernaut or The Hulk?

Originally posted by Odekahn
Dude, he used a red tentacle made out of the celestial tech to toss Juggernaut, he was clearly amped, and you want to give Hulk all the credit for that despite Juggernaut pushing him back until he actively used the amp.

I don't hate Hulk, I'm just not going to ignore things to give him credit over another due to favoritism.

I'm giving Hulk the credit for stopping Juggernaut since it was a strength...I'm not giving him props for slinging Juggernaut with tentacles.

The reason why Apocalypse chose Hulk is due to him knowing that Hulk power came from a pocket universe. Without the tech, Hulk would not have known how to use that power, he would have still been the standard Hulk. Apocalypse mind controlled Hulk by drilling implants in his head and he gave him the Celestial tech so that it would assist in Hulk accessing that power that he was unable to tap into due to mental blockage (he tapped into that power again after the Onslaught Saga AND as WWH).

With that said, since the ft was done under Hulk own power, it belongs to him. Its an AMP but its not an outside source amp, its an amp from within. Kind of like the Onslaught saga. Jean grey assisted in removing the mental blocks in Hulk head. This made Hulk even more furious then ever BUT, he didn't receive an outside amp like a Superman sundip or a Green Lantern power charge...this came from within him.

Since you like using web sites (lol), here you go.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/warhulk.htm

Originally posted by carver9
Since you like using web sites (lol), here you go.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/warhulk.htm

From your source:
"(Incredible Hulk I#457) � Juggernaut was able to push back the Hulk across the sands until War eventually stopped the supposedly unstoppable Juggernaut and threw him far away using the tendril."

"and he was able to utilise the weaponry that Apocalypse had given him, specifically a cable tendril that extended from his right gauntlet and a sword forged from Celestial technology."

But if I can't use websites, neither can you. Your point is moot.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm giving Hulk the credit for stopping Juggernaut since it was a strength...I'm not giving him props for slinging Juggernaut with tentacles.

The reason why Apocalypse chose Hulk is due to him knowing that Hulk power came from a pocket universe. Without the tech, Hulk would not have known how to use that power, he would have still been the standard Hulk. Apocalypse mind controlled Hulk by drilling implants in his head and he gave him the Celestial tech so that it would assist in Hulk accessing that power that he was unable to tap into due to mental blockage (he tapped into that power again after the Onslaught Saga AND as WWH).

With that said, since the ft was done under Hulk own power, it belongs to him. Its an AMP but its not an outside source amp, its an amp from within. Kind of like the Onslaught saga. Jean grey assisted in removing the mental blocks in Hulk head. This made Hulk even more furious then ever BUT, he didn't receive an outside amp like a Superman sundip or a Green Lantern power charge...this came from within him.

And I'm sure it would have taken less time to post the scan that EXPLAINS WHAT YOU ARE CLAIMING TO BE TRUE instead of typing all of that out. So just show me where it says that. Again, not yelling lol.

Originally posted by Odekahn
From your source:
"(Incredible Hulk I#457) � Juggernaut was able to push back the Hulk across the sands until War eventually stopped the supposedly unstoppable Juggernaut and threw him far away [b]using the tendril."

"and he was able to utilise the weaponry that Apocalypse had given him, specifically a cable tendril that extended from his right gauntlet and a sword forged from Celestial technology."

But if I can't use websites, neither can you. Your point is moot. [/B]

Lol...I'm just trying to be like you. Websites are the best, don't you agree? 👆

With that said, Hulk stopped Juggernaut.

Foreal though, everything they said in that scan is true. The only thing that was Celestial was Hulk weapons.

Guys, cut out the personal stuff.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I'm just trying to be like you. Websites are the best, don't you agree? 👆

With that said, Hulk stopped Juggernaut.

Foreal though, everything they said in that scan is true. The only thing that was Celestial was Hulk weapons.

I feel like I'm talking to a child, lol. Jeez man.

Websites aren't valid here. Right? Ok, then drop it. Or continue to do it out of spite for my earlier post. It just makes you a hypocrite.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, cut out the personal stuff.

Apologies. Won't happen again.

Originally posted by Odekahn
I feel like I'm talking to a child, lol. Jeez man.

Websites aren't valid here. Right? Ok, then drop it. Or continue to do it out of spite for my earlier post. It just makes you a hypocrite.

I was being sarcastic with the site...DANG. I never use websites my friend...I always post scans.

Originally posted by carver9
I was being sarcastic with the site...DANG. I never use websites my friend...I always post scans.

Ok 👆

Please post the scan that explains that the celestial tech (that Hulk used) did not help Hulk stop the Juggernaut.

That would be like saying a knife didn't aid you in cutting a steak, lol.

Originally posted by Odekahn
Ok 👆

Please post the scan that explains that the celestial tech (that Hulk used) did not help Hulk stop the Juggernaut.

We all saw that the Hulk had the potential to stop the Juggernaut. The tech that he was using only helped him to better focus his power. i don't understand why it is that many people do not understand this little thing. For instance if the same tech were placed on Captain America it would not allow him to get stronger with rage. To clearly back this small fact, War was pushed like a plow for several hundred yards before he tapped into enough strength to slow Cain down to a near stop, whereas Cain was unable to plow the Hulk (Green Scar version) due to him being trained on Sakaar on how to consciously tap into his power. The Hulk has always had the potential to stop or slow Cain down. In WW Hulk he was simply written up to those levels. If not, Cain would have done the same thing that he'd done to War. Furthermore, it was written on panel, that the Green Scar was the most powerful version of the Hulk ever. This includes War Hulk. Will you ignore this as well?

That's how you stop the Juggernaut btw.

biscuits

Cheapshot him while he's standing still and only knock him off his feet?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Cheapshot him while he's standing still and only knock him off his feet?

Stop nitpicking... sneer

That's how you punch a Juggernaut.

^That's also a good way. Everyone can do it, except WWH. biscuits

Naah, this is how you handle the Juggernaut.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg.html

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, this is how you handle the Juggernaut.

http://s30.photobucket.com/user/Hulk3389/media/comic%20book%20scans/juggslayout.jpg.html

I see a weak Hulk beating an depowered Juggernaut, that's like beating a Kryptonian next to the red sun with some KRyptonite up his ass.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
I see a weak Hulk beating an depowered Juggernaut, that's like beating a Kryptonian next to the red sun with some KRyptonite up his ass.

Are you saying that Cain was de-powered at that period in comic history? i thought that this happened several years after that comic came out.