Juggernaut or The Hulk?

bollocks u cretin,juggie uses power of cytorak for his invulnerability anus, hulk uses another as yet unknown dimension for his, whats your point. hulk is limitless in strength juggie is not, its a fact, er and as theyre not real people baby what proof u want, juggie is a marginal character and has yet to have done anything nearly as impressive as hulk. also u **** when has he beaten hulk twice, if all i get is crap arguments from a breed desperate to have someone . stronger than hulk then as u insult my intelligence i will insult u, capice. i mean whats wrong with hulk using energy to heal, whats weakening by that, hulk has limitless anger to fuel this in any fight. thor beating hulk so bad, er when good grief just realise hulk is stronger than juggie fact oh and thor, recognised by thor in his battles with hulk,if u nt to beat him then being a powerhouse is playing into his hands cos heis stronger, now ll take u all on, and if i actually get a reply that intelligently retorts my observations, course id be glad to admit defeat, keep babbling on about juggie and unlimited atrength, or hulk cant stand up to punches from juggie or mojlner or whatever or hulk has lost fights he blatantly hasnt and u will be treated as the sausage jockies u r

oh and i stated juggies power goes into his invulnerability to explain where it goes, not argue it weakens u moron

tough guy's aren't supposed to cry when they've been proven wrong.

run along little one...reading your pathetic use of the English language is mind numbing.

hulk is limitless in strength juggie is not, its a fact, er and as theyre not real people baby what proof u want

a fact? Says who? you? 😆 The proof I want...is a comic reference. You claim to know this for a fact...so how did this fact come into being?

Keep getting upset...it's about the only part of your post that is amusing.

I love x-men, but I would have to say the Hulk. Juggernaut is one of my least favorite villians in x-men.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
oh ans hulk has healed his body from bones too , so er what

but not instantly. it took a few panels to do. even then he had meat on his bones. juggernaut was completely stripped 😉

i'm just saying everything you said about hulk applies to juggernaut also.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
bollocks u cretin,juggie uses power of cytorak for his invulnerability anus,

considering juggernaut is the exemplar of raw/physical power. i'd say it manifests as strength too. look how big he is 😉 its not just for invulnerability.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
hulk uses another as yet unknown dimension for his, whats your point.

straight from marveldirectory.com huh?

Originally posted by Tough Guy
hulk is limitless in strength juggie is not, its a fact, er and as theyre not real people baby what proof u want, juggie is a marginal character and has yet to have done anything nearly as impressive as hulk.

he also hasnt had the time in pages as hulk. not to mention that not nearly as many people read his appearances as they do hulk. how would you know if juggernaut does or doesnt do anything impressive. i'd be willing to bet all you know of juggernaut is the cartoons, and maybe a few issues... probably the onslaught crossover. how accurate is that??

Originally posted by Tough Guy
also u **** when has he beaten hulk twice, if all i get is crap arguments from a breed desperate to have someone . stronger than hulk then as u insult my intelligence i will insult u, capice.

i assume this is directed at the other fellow... none of my business.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
i mean whats wrong with hulk using energy to heal, whats weakening by that,

whats wrong with juggernaut using limitless energy to increase his strength?? he has -potential- just like hulk 🙂

Originally posted by Tough Guy
hulk has limitless anger to fuel this in any fight.

sure he does... got any proof that he gets as mad as he wants without limits?? i find that hard to believe.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
thor beating hulk so bad, er when good grief just realise hulk is stronger than juggie fact oh and thor, recognised by thor in his battles with hulk,

is that why he refused to fight thor with the hammer, and why he cant over power juggernaut?? there is also another issue where thor locked in a hold with hulk to try to over power him. he didnt over power hulk, but hulk didnt over power him. this went on for about an hour... the whole time hulk was unable to increase his strength beyond thor.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
if u nt to beat him then being a powerhouse is playing into his hands cos heis stronger, now ll take u all on, and if i actually get a reply that intelligently retorts my observations, course id be glad to admit defeat, keep babbling on about juggie and unlimited atrength, or hulk cant stand up to punches from juggie or mojlner or whatever or hulk has lost fights he blatantly hasnt and u will be treated as the sausage jockies u r

heh...heh... sausage jockies... good one. i dont feel like reply-ing to any other part cause its rather useless

p.s. are you going to watch meet the fockers tomorrow??

well if u dont know hulk is limitless in strength potential that he only needs to get angry to release then well, wat can i say, thats his power, if u dont believe then hey. he has been overpowered beforein comics, and i think thats poor writing, thor himself ( i cant remember the issue) has admited he himself cannot match an angry hulk physically, maybe wynndar can remember the no for u,.
i get angry statting the same points again and again, juggie is not limitless in strength in any thing i have read, i accept the whole limitless invulnerability thing like my friends u have to accept hulks limitless strength. juggie did get extremely strong, however that doesnt give him limitless PHYSICAL strength, just invulnerability, a force field for no reason, and superhuman strength that we know not the limit from.
*linkalicious u nob it has been said on many occasions that hulk is limitless in strength, stan lee said it many times in at least 2 interviews i have seen recently with him in, its a fact, his power, he only has to get angrier to get stronger and has a limitless fury. sorry but dumb dumb that is a fact if u dont believe dont bother replying as im not gonna
keep repeating myself i hope wynndar may give u the numbers u need.
* juggiefan juggie is invulnerable to what hulk is strength wise, thats the best way i can describe it, juggie is not known as being infinite in strength, that comic release was the first ive heard of it, then they made him half as strong and killed him, so i read very little into that editors comments. my dream is hulk getting so pissed with juggie that he does do the impossible and smash juggies invincability, yours would be seeing hulk carry on smashing the unsmashable till he tires or juggie wallops him for miles etc, i accept u stand just im saying that hulks physical strength knows no equal ( non celestial etc) as it climbs rapidly and endlessly ( not his base strength qequalled and bettered regularly) and ll thats requiredis anger for this. dont qoute me fights hulk has lost on strength b4 without getting stronger as obviously i cant say why he didnt in that fight but did in others, or when smashing planets or lifting mountain ranges or amshing thousands of tonne of aircraft carrier.thats up to how writers use his powers, hence juggie being whipped by onslaught
lastly he wont have had the time in pages as is not as deveoped a character ( this works against hulk as they are able to twist juggie around more than they can hulk) or as popular or as well thought out, i mean its not like they will use juggie instead of hulk to smash something, i mean why would a comic do that? hulk is strongest hulk is more popular, especially in that vein.

linkalicious is a backdoor salesman, the fockers is not out here for a while, let me know what u think i will probably want to watch it

i thought it came out tomorrow?

Originally posted by Tough Guy
if hulk is healing quicker and quicker juggie punching will be as useless as hulk punching him. juggie would then pale as hulk got stronger and thats what happens when he gets mad

You are jumping to far ahead being that no one knows exactly how strong juggernaut is, and we do know how strong hulk is when he starts out, we dont know how far hulk has to climb to get to juggerauts strength, it could take minutes, hours, or days no one knows but you are jumping to far ahead with hulk getting to juggernauts strength and stalemating with him.

What about the minutes or hours or days it takes hulk to get to his power. what do you think is going to happen, Juggernaut isnt going to wait and let him reach him (if hulk can reach him) and hulk still tires which i think some of you are forgetting.

Hulk can tire, we dont know how long it will take hulk to reach juggernaut.

so in my opinion this is still a toss up. it was funny watching hulk get smashed with that hammer 😆 bangin 😆

You have very good points. Juggernauts strenth is supernatural and nobody kows for sure just how strong he is.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
true i must agree tron if juggie was able to win before hulk increased in strength fine, though this would be very hard to do as savage hulk as he would start to get very mad the instant he was attacked really, etc, i agree that though we have no idea the speed his strength increases so well have to live with our own opinions on that.

That's all I ask.

Originally posted by Tough Guy
hulk is limitless in strength juggie is not, its a fact, er and as theyre not real people baby what proof u want

I hate to bring it up, but you do realize you more or less just contradicted yourself in that comment right?😐

Originally posted by Linkalicious
and your arguement about Thor being stronger than Juggernaut is a mute point because when Thor went head to head with Hulk....Thor was beating Hulk so bad with Mjolnir that Hulk had to grab a civilian and threaten to kill her if Thor didn't fight without it. They went toe-to-toe, destroying a city until Hulk ran away.

That's just wrong and funny at the same time.😂

And, before the mods pop up in here, I'll put this up for those that haven't read it yet, or need to read it again:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t308157.html

And, Hulk has plenty of physical equals (or in some cases, superiors, out there), few on Earthly levels, but plenty on cosmic levels, but I've said that already.😉

tron not a contradiction, i accept that on base level juggie would own reasehulk, however as we dont know how quickly hulk increases in strength lets have our own opinions. however my further point was as hulk DOES habe limitless strength potential has no physical equals as in thelong run will have no limits.
* juggie fan im in uk we get films later sometimes.
* i know juggie has unknown strength, then so does thor and many heros in 100 tonne class that regularly provide feats outside this domain, the hulk though has unlimited potential, so can reach levels that have no limit. now i know comics dont carry this on, ie struggles against namour, yet destroys hercules, etc, thats just how a writer uses his powers, as hulk is not real he is left to the devices of writers, the same as when it was brought up juggie was hurt when he had a fire stick poked in his eye, if he was invulnerable would not happen. i stand by my original point stated mny times over many pasges, hulk ( jusyt going by his power) has no physical equals, especially in brawling, as needs to just get madder to heal ( quicker the maddder he gets) and gain strength, now to beat him id like to see more invention than people trying to wrestle with him and lose as they should, or win cos for some reason he wasnt angry that day, ( as if), hulk has in comics been shown to display acts of strength far outside 100 tonnes within secs, not days months years hours etc, it doesnt take long to be really pissed and thats all hulk needs to get stronger, heal faster ad infinitum. now there is no + 1 there only guys hulk has to match then surpass asonly he can

im not talking cosmic levels tron, and he has many who START off stronger physically i know as ive said many times

in regards to physical strength im not sure juggie is more than 4 or 5 times the 100 tonne bracket, his invulnerability and magic to be unstoppable may cloud the whole physical strength thing.

oh and juggie fan lol was not marvel directory i read in some or other hulk related parafanalia that he gets his extra mass strength from a n as of yet unknown dimension, very handy eh?

No no, I think you missed what I was saying. I was saying the comment was a contradiction because you said it was a fact that Hulk was limitless, then said that he wasn't real in the same sentence. Get what I'm sayin' now?😉

Tough Guy: State your opinion without insulting others.

Word😉

got u tron, ok nit picker lol, i meant in the comic world which lies outside of empirical examination, er i hope ive cleared that up .
paolo my little sky rocket in flight i will try , so long as they dont make me angry........... coz u wouldnt like me when im angry... and , ok no more rudeness.