juggie was not strong enough to beat hulk( no he hasnt actually done it) nor has he done anything as impressive as hulk so till he does, ( and he cant) lets not assume as it make s an ass out of u and me., and why are bios and trump cards etc so trivial, possibly as they back up my point me thinks, and yes i am laughing at you, what of it ( linkilustrius), whats wrong with actually having some set parameters, its what stops charactrs being too badly written about
Originally posted by Tough Guy
talon, if u actually read a little in to that point it also means that juggie is not invulnerable, unstoppable, etc too, now how u like it?????
Juggernaut has already proven he is imortal i have not seen any proof of hulk being limitless is strength, also juggernaut did knock down warhulk, that was after he pushed him a mile across africa 😆 and hulks best efforts to stop him with his strength was worthless so he used his wait no apocalypse's celistial power that was given to him 😆
Originally posted by baddspellahl4
everyone is the marvel/dc universe is immortal. duh collosus, the professer, and superman have died various times and always come back. and juggernaut is not f.ucking immortal
Not being able to die seems to be immortality to me buddy maybe you need to look it up in the dictionary.
the fact that superman colossus and so on has died proves they are not immortal writers just like them and they use them for a stupid plot.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Tough Guy why don't you change your name in Tough Fanboy?
Iron Man defeat Hulk with the Hulk-Buster Armor, and in the "Big Things" Issue, that was released in Italy just 4days ago, i read it and was great to see that Stark was able to create another great armor, yes with the help of banner, but anyway Iron Man beat the living crap out of Hulk, and shoot him a repulsor ray of unbelievable power.
Savage Hulk, the green Hulk, when is quiet and is just not fighting is Class 70, when he starts to enrage he enter and surpass Class 100.
Originally posted by talon00x
Not being able to die seems to be immortality to me buddy maybe you need to look it up in the dictionary.the fact that superman colossus and so on has died proves they are not immortal writers just like them and they use them for a stupid plot.
well considering how Jug. is portrayed as an aging villain....and how he is presumed dead right now...I think he isnt any more immortal than wolverine.
Hmm, it seems purty simple teh meh
A battle of finite strength vs Infinite strength...it comes to that..
I or anyone for that matter knows the true extent of Marco's(Juggernauts) awesome power, with that said we don't know if it's finite or Infinite, BUT since it's never been deemed Infinite then I'm going to go with it being finite but strong enough to nearly accomplish any feat of strength..
We DO know for a fact that the hulk's strength increases continously and infinitely corresponding with his anger AND he Heals at a rapid rate .
This battle would be not be your typical "thinking" match but a rather hardcore "slugfest" between two 1000lb+ monsters..We've seen these two knock each other around on numerous occasions and none "floored" the other. This battle goes to WHO can withstand more attacks(more durable), WHO has the most potential strength because this battle would indeed be timely..The answer is the hulk. He heals at an enormous rate while the Juggernaut "Won't" recover from hard attacks as fast..The Hulk is loads quicker and more agilie..He just has "too many" perks as Juggernaut just has Superior strength....
Now I'm no Hulk fanboy but I DO know that both of these opponents faced off against Onslaught, Juggernaut lost badly, he had no inner "rage" to fall back on, no "potential" to get a burst of spontaneous energy, he had his limit which wasn't enough to even topple Onslaught, Hulk however has that certain potential, if his base strength is dwarfed by an opponent he at least has that "chance" to raise his strength to their opposing level, and THATS what gives the hulk the edge, their base strength may be equal BUT hulk's can rise while Juggernauts cannot..It's a rarity when the hulk is beaten in an all out blow by blow exhibition, but Jugg's been beaten on numerous occasions..
My point in a nutshell is that the hulk is Marvel's top "strong guy", in a close range blow for blow battle might for might Strength for Strength confrontation you AINT gonna beat the hulk(The thing, Hercules,Abomination, Thor), THATS the hulks area of expertise and UNLESS you have a power that "absorbs, takes-away-gamma-radiation, or Beyonder type cosmic powers then you-are-not-beating-the-hulk..Bar..none...
thank u sarcastic, my point exactly
talon u dumby i was talking about a quote u were talking about from evangel saying something or other about no marvel characters being infinite in anything, just letting u know it applied to juggie to in that case.
linkasauraua ive lost nothing, and my i did **** the prom queen, were now engaged ( yes we have proms in uk) what have u won, nothing, sorry, juggie is invulnerable and can keep running on and on, hulk is limitless in strength and heals very very fast, ( its in marvels official bio thing it looks like a comic, i believe most characters have 1, ( juggies was included in hulks villainds in this 1) it gave him 9 out of 10 for strength., now talon i clearly read more into the facts and limits etc of a character u r someone who just reads the comics oblivious to what it is your reading about, oh juggie has died thats what wynndar and badspellah were on about dumb dumb.
* wynndar could u elaborate the iron man thing its bugging me. now unless u guys have something new to offer i suggest u lick ur wounds cos whatever you think i have not seen anyone swayed by any argument, no one seemds to actually know the correct powers for their characters they are going on about bar a couple. juggie infinite strength chortle chortle, i wonder if he turns green when he is mad ha ha
oh so u can pick and choose can u...... hmmmmmmmmmmm talon i find this whole thin one sided towards juggie when it suits u we look at comics when it doesnt we dont, if i say comics r inconsistant im a fan boy, if i quoute facts from bios or trump cards etc im to be mocked for looking at statistics. hmmmmmmmmm very interesting
though sarcastic i will correct 1 thing b4 juggie fan et all d it juggie wouldnt need to heal as we are led to believe he is invulnerable, however this would not stop hulk burying him or throwing him for miles etc, or maybe being the first to get so mad he does hurt him?????
oh and talon from your earlir posts war was in no way inferior in strength to juggie at any point in their fight, once hed had enough he stopped juggie then trashed him and no he was not punched over????? what do you guys read???
Originally posted by Tough Guy
though sarcastic i will correct 1 thing b4 juggie fan et all d it juggie wouldnt need to heal as we are led to believe he is invulnerable, however this would not stop hulk burying him or throwing him for miles etc, or maybe being the first to get so mad he does hurt him?????
oh and talon from your earlir posts war was in no way inferior in strength to juggie at any point in their fight, once hed had enough he stopped juggie then trashed him and no he was not punched over????? what do you guys read???
After hulk wait no after War threw juggernaut into the city hulk came after him and in mid air juggernaut hit him and send him flying through a bunch of cars.
Originally posted by Tough Guy
oh so u can pick and choose can u...... hmmmmmmmmmmm talon i find this whole thin one sided towards juggie when it suits u we look at comics when it doesn't we dont, if i say comics r inconsistant im a fan boy, if i quoute facts from bios or trump cards etc im to be mocked for looking at statistics. hmmmmmmmmm very interesting
First off what does any of that mean you like to cry and complain because you were picked on by other kids during high school if you are even that old, really honestly, it doesn't seem like you are.
I simply said being that the "juggernaut" that is "dead" is not the Juggernaut. The juggernaut is an living embodiment of raw power, that guy crys when a little fish boy tells him a sad story. That is not juggernaut oh no it is simply cain marko with a power budget. The juggernaut as you know him is a worthless imitation produced by chuck the suck austen.
The juggernaut that i know is a living engine of destruction that is powered by the limitless energy that is given to him by Cyttorak. The juggernaut i am referring to is immortal.
Originally posted by talon00x
First off what does any of that mean you like to cry and complain because you were picked on by other kids during high school if you are even that old, really honestly, it doesn't seem like you are.I simply said being that the "juggernaut" that is "dead" is not the Juggernaut. The juggernaut is an living embodiment of raw power, that guy crys when a little fish boy tells him a sad story. That is not juggernaut oh no it is simply cain marko with a power budget. The juggernaut as you know him is a worthless imitation produced by chuck the suck austen.
The juggernaut that i know is a living engine of destruction that is powered by the limitless energy that is given to him by Cyttorak. The juggernaut i am referring to is immortal.
If someone continues to provoke you, just ignore the person.
I think I have posted here before (80+ pages, I must have) but current Juggernaut does not fall from a character who uses physical strength as their weapon. In that case, Huk doesn't have the essential tools, regardless of how ridiculously powerful he is.
For Hulk to do anything, he will just have to hurt him a little here and there until the human side of Marko says quits and just leaves (Juggernaut can still be hurt, but he just heals too fast to cause permanent damage). Humans, as Marko in the very core essence is will continue to have emotions like boredom and a certain threshold for certain things (pain). Jab him in the eye enough times and Juggernaut will say "This is not worth it" and leaves.