Spider-Man vs Batman

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Originally posted by Capt.JK
I have to go with the Bats in this one, but in a SECOND round knock-out. I think Spidey could and probably would beat Bat-Man the first time they faced off, but with Bat-Man's obviously superior combat strategy, the next time they met, he'd have 17 different gizmos ready to whip Spider Man in 5 panels. But if it's only a one-shot, then I go with Spidey. Besides, Marvel's cooler anyway.

no batman started training at the age of 11

I'll bet any one of you, any amount of money, that if you were to start a new thread entitled who do you "like" better not who would win in a fight, Batman would win overwhelmingly. I can account for this even in this thread as 90% of the people who have been saying Spiderman will win the fight have still claimed that Batman was their favorite hero. So if you doubt me who?-kid; test me.

And my powers are irrelevant remark is too stupid to reply? So then how do you account for the thousands upon thousands of battles Batman has won against either meta-humans or those with powers. Because he is the hero, and in the comics; hero's win. This is one of the most basic rules in comics, granted it always has it's exceptions, but by and large the hero of a particular title is almost always overcoming the odds even if they are stacked against him/her. So no, powers have very little bearing in determining who will win, powers will only dictate the substance of the battle if and when they do happen to fight. Now in this particular case, when it's hero on hero, the older/wiser, more well-established, and greater fan favorite hero will win. That's how this fight will be determined.

Oh and arsenal, thank you for apologizing to me. I'll accept your apology if it'll keep you from crying, little girl. Lol, do all you b*tch out like this lightweight the moment someone curses? What am I arguing with a bunch of soccer moms???

Marvel is kool so if Spidey was in trouble, DD or BP would show up

this isnt really a boxing match, so i dont go with the second round thing, unless you meant it in another way [/B][/QUOTE]

Not like in boxing. What I meant is that in their first meeting, Spider-Man would easily outclass Bat Man, although I do believe it would be a helluva fight as Bat Man TRIED to adapt to Spidey's superior strength and speed. But there are many, many examples you could pull from Bat Man's comics to show where he has lost the "first round", but on the second meeting with whoever, Bat Man is far more prepared for the fight and wins, hands down, and makes it look like he planned it that way all along. Plus, if you read the JLA comics, I think Bat Man is easily the most dangerous member of the team. He doesn't try to go toe-to-toe with the biggest baddies, because he knows he can't, so he just studies and out thinks them and figures out their weaknesses, and then it's all over. That's what I meant with the "second round" going to Bat Man.

Couple things: you can't have Batman building special suits to take on his opponents. That's absurd, and Spider-Man has built a steel suit as well, so whatever Batman builds Spider-Man can build as well. You don't include 'well if he goes home and builds a rocket he'll win' in fights. The scenarios are invariably 'they meet in a neutral place out of the blue and decide to beat the hell out of each other.' No prep time, no special weapons, etc. unless included in the original thread. I can beat Spider-Man with a special ultimate iron-suit of weapons, so what?

As for the hero vs. hero, the older more established hero does NOT always win. Spider-Man vs. Wolverine was a draw, Superman vs. Silver Surfer was more or less a draw, even though it's Superman! You don't get more established than Supes. Surfer has beaten Green Lantern too, who was more established. Batman is older than Spider-Man but you cannot argue that he is more popular. Spidey is arguably THE top hero today due to his recent movies. Wizard has made that claim for years even before the movies. Superman is the most recognizable, Batman is perhaps second, but Spider-Man is equally as popular and arguably moreso. Like I said, this isn't Batman vs. X-Man or something, it's Spider-man. Also, they did actually meet once, and of course, the ending was a cop-out. Hero vs. hero match-ups are 9 times out of 10 a cop-out. And like I said, it's not about the writers, it's about who would actually win. Writers can make Lois Lane take out Thanos if they so desire, that's not the point of the forum.

Okay, obviously I was speaking within reason. Silver Surfer is/was the herald of Galactus, he has cosmic powers. I'm not saying that Batman could solo the Anti-Monitor just cause he was created first, but in the case of Spider-Man and Batman, 2 relatively equal heroes; Batman is more popular and would win.

Umm... yeah, see, that's why I said it goes to Spider-Man in the first round. Only if Bat Man COULD make a second fight of it, then I give it to him in the second meeting.

Yep, that's what I said all right.

Wrath, you can't go by anything Wizard says, they're like the National Inquirerer of comic news. And their bad descisions have run more than a few companies into the ground (Valient, Chaos, and most recently Crossgen.)

This may not be the place to argue it but, !@#$ Wizard. Use Overstreet.

Either way, Capt.JK, I think you're underestimating Batman's preparation for a first encounter. He's always prepared, and while you can't be prepared for everything, Batman certainly does come close.

Originally posted by Knightfall
I'll bet any one of you, any amount of money, that if you were to start a new thread entitled who do you "like" better not who would win in a fight, Batman would win overwhelmingly. I can account for this even in this thread as 90% of the people who have been saying Spiderman will win the fight have still claimed that Batman was their favorite hero. So if you doubt me who?-kid; test me.

Originally posted by Capt.JK
Not like in boxing. What I meant is that in their first meeting, Spider-Man would easily outclass Bat Man

I hate Overstreet, lol. Wizard isn't perfect, but at least they're entertaining and I much prefer their prices. They're higher, which means more money money money!

As for Batman, again Knightfall, he is NOT more popular. He is arguably more well-known, but like I said, that can be debated. You take a poll and see what people say, Spider-Man is likely to be more popular. That's why his movies made many millions more than Batman's. Ten years ago, Batman would have taken the popularity contest, absolutely. Ten years from now, who knows. But as of right now, Spider-Man is quite possibly the most popular character in the comic world.

Originally posted by Knightfall
So if you doubt me who?-kid; test me.

And my powers are irrelevant remark is too stupid to reply? So then how do you account for the thousands upon thousands of battles Batman has won against either meta-humans or those with powers.

Hm, first comic I read is Batman vs Dredd. Hey wait, Dredd beats him unconsciousness. That Dredd... lol. Ok, I'll give it a second try : Batman Year Two. Hm, an old guy in a leather armor and with some guns, couldn't give Batman much trouble. But wait, do my eyes deceive me ? He's almost killed by this not superpowered old man ! Luckily there was a sewer where he could hide in.

Okay, last try : Return of the Dark Knight. Batman is older, but still in great shape, and according to your theory, he should have absolutely no problem against the leader of the gang called The Mutants, just a muscled punk who can fight a little. But hey, he loses again, thank God that Robin girl saves his ass.

Do I have to continue to read the comics ?

Because he is the hero, and in the comics; hero's win. This is one of the most basic rules in comics, granted it always has it's exceptions, but by and large the hero of a particular title is almost always overcoming the odds even if they are stacked against him/her.

So no, powers have very little bearing in determining who will win, powers will only dictate the substance of the battle if and when they do happen to fight. Now in this particular case, when it's hero on hero, the older/wiser, more well-established, and greater fan favorite hero will win. That's how this fight will be determined.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Okay, last try : Return of the Dark Knight. Batman is older, but still in great shape, and according to your theory, he should have absolutely no problem against the leader of the gang called The Mutants, just a muscled punk who can fight a little. But hey, he loses again, thank God that Robin girl saves his ass.

Do I have to continue to read the comics ?

For once, I agree with you, but you forget one little detail : Spider-Man is also the hero.
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Less talk, more prove. [/B]

LOL I agree, finally someone with common sense!! 💃 Batman rules, but he's only human. And that prep time is gay, no one should ever mention that again. If you want to talk about Bats and prep time, then has him face Dr. doom or something, or, here's a thought....make another thread about prep time!! 😠 This is about Batman (regular) vs. Spiderman (regular) on a first time battle, where stats shoot Spidey in favor 10 out of 10 on FIRST TIME MEETS. Dickhead Graysons (flaming fanboys) have to get it through their heads that there is no chance of bats winning a one on one first meet fight. Even a second battle would be in Spidey's favor unless Bats Specifically prepares for Spidey. Bats may win the second or third encounter, cuz he's batman, but not for sure, and he would have to be extremely lucky, and batman does get lucky as do ALL heroes.
This is not Batman (with prep time, the JLA, and a super kewl battle suit like the one he used on SUpes) vs. Spidey (without any web fluid.)
I was greatly disapointed to see old batman get ruffed up by some toothy muscle moron. I have much more respect for bats than to want to see him get wasted by a D class villian....even if he's old.

wow that was a good one who?-kid

i agree with both who?-kid and spiderninja008

Lol, you're telling me that you picking out specific battles where Batman lost is an accurate representation of his career as a whole? Are you really that unintelligent??? Oh wait, yeah you are...you spelled "proof" like "prove". Lol, I can clearly see I'm arguing with an ignoramus. And anyone who is reading the girl Robin comics clearly has no right to even participate in this convo. You're flaming.

Originally posted by Knightfall
Lol, you're telling me that you picking out specific battles where Batman lost is an accurate representation of his career as a whole? Are you really that unintelligent??? Oh wait, yeah you are...you spelled "proof" like "prove". Lol, I can clearly see I'm arguing with an ignoramus. And anyone who is reading the girl Robin comics clearly has no right to even participate in this convo. You're flaming.

1.No we didn't represent those battles as a whole, but an important piece unaffected by fans or crossovers, or prep time. (fight that one)

2. real mature......with the name calling, and not bringing up ne evidence, oh and not even making ur argument clear. Cept for "I'm a batsy fanboy"

3. The Dark Knight returns was a great masterpiece. Even with bats gettn his ass handed to him by some punk.

4. In the words of the comical canadians of south park......."suck my balls"

That is very interesting but I wonder why nobody is mensioning how the bats later disected leader of the mutants. Even worse than the punk did him.

The people from south parks are not canadians.

Spiderninja008 which batman have you known not to use prep time? 😆

Batman does not need to build any special suit to take on spiderman. Not to say that he does not have them but spiderman is not a threat for to even consider bring any of the them suits.

Lol, a Southpark comeback. How can I ever compete? Tell you what...when you grow a set, I'll suck em'.

Originally posted by lifeisaglich
That is very interesting but I wonder why nobody is mensioning how the bats later disected leader of the mutants. Even worse than the punk did him.

The people from south parks are not canadians.

Spiderninja008 which batman have you known not to use prep time? 😆

Batman does not need to build any special suit to take on spiderman. Not to say that he does not have them but spiderman is not a threat for to even consider bring any of the them suits.

Spiderman isn't a threat huh? How about you leave this discussion to people who actually know something about Spider-Man then. How you can rationalize that Batman is a threat but Spider-Man would be interesting, considering it cannot be done. All the training and gadgets from his little utility belt isn't going to do anything. Spider-Man has gadgets as well, and though his training isn't extensive, he can bench-press semi-trucks. Spider-Man is stronger, faster, more agile, and has a spider-sense. So let's see, run down the useful qualities of a fight.

Who punches harder and faster? Hmm...Spider-Man
Who dodges the opponent's blows better? Hmm....Spider-Man
Who knows what the opponent is going to do before it actually gets done? Hmm...Spider-Man.

Yeah, Bats takes this easily from the 'no-threat Spider-Man.' Sure. Ok.
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