Hahaha, Never, you rock !!
But serious now, this is a very tough battle for both the characters, but on paper, when looking at their statistics and so, I declare Wolverine the winner.
Why you ask me? Well, for several reasons:
1. Wolverine is stronger. Not that much, I admit, but he certainly is.
2. Wolverine has more experience, don't forget he is much older than Batman. In fact, he is one of the most experienced heroes of the Marvel Universe.
3. With his healing factor and unbreakable skeleton, it is quite difficult to hurt Wolverine - believe me, I tried once and I almost broke my hand :-) He is way tougher than Batman.
4. And of course, he has his famous claws which he likes to use, and not only for opening beers. By the way, he uses them very well !
5. Furthermore, last but not least, he has got the willpower and doesn't know the meaning of the word "quit". But granted, the same goes for Batman.
6. I don't know if Wolverine is faster though, I think they are a bit on the same level.
Batman has a good chance to win if he can keep Wolverine at distance. Wolverine is one of the best close-combat fighters, but when fighting somebody from a distant, he sucks (that's why he would lose from Spider-man, but that's another story). But Wolverine will come for Batman, and the martial skills will definitely help Batman in a fight against him, but in the end, Logan will win.
But again, my loved ones, this is only on paper. You never know what those crazy writers will think of when they decide these 2 cool heroes should fight each other (probably for some stupid reason).
I would give it to Wolverine. Adamantium skeleton, superhuman senses, healing factor, and unbreakable claws. He's also a little guy, 5'3", I would give him the edge in agility. Batman's trained in various martial arts and fighting techniques, is the world's best detective etc. but Wolverine was doing black ops missions before Batman was born, because of his healing factor he's 150 or so and has the physique of a man in his 30's or so (depending on who's writting and drawing him).
His powers combined with his extensive experience gives him the edge, IMHO.
dude he beat spider man twice so learn to read comic more if ur going to talk
Issue name? Issue number? Ah, let me guess - you are referencing Spiderman vs. Wolverine that was printed in '99 or '00, correct? I am referencing the ONE-SHOT that was printed in...1985 or so. I have not read "Spiderman vs. Wolverine."
wolverine cant lose to batman not possiable he coudl let batman pound on him for ever and still it would do nuthign att all to him please read venom on the run it show u wolverine full healing power
Batman devised the means to neutralize Superman, The Flash, Green Lantern - hell, the ENTIRE JLA. This is why I say, IN MY OPINION, Batman will FIND a way to beat Wolverine if he has prep time. He is ALSO Wolverine's superior in martial arts.
Pound on him forever? LoL, Batman can use flash bombs, sonics, poison - hello? And he can use these ALL from a distance. We do recall exactly how smart Batman is...correct?
tell me can batman take a hit from hulk and live let a lone get right back up dident think so
Neither can Wolverine. Hulk cracked open Onslaught's armor when the combined strength of the Marvel Universe could not. If Hulk EVER hit Wolverine 1/2 as hard as he could, Wolverine would simply explode.
even if wolverine did have powers it the world best detective vs worlds best fighter. toughy who going to win thsi one lol. Wolverine of course
Wolverine is not and never has been the world's best fighter. For EVERYONE who needs a little brushing up on Batman, here is a very good, balanced debate.
http://www.electricferret.com/fights/capbat.htm
Wolverine9999, I might consider responding again when you learn how to construct a cogent argument.
I going to show u the dam book it says he the best fighter book called x-men ultimate guide sorry for the spelling but I dotn have the book in front of me. also it is bye stan lee. it clear says under woverine page that he is the best fighter. also woverine has taken derect hits from the hulk and gotten right back up. also u can explode from being punch. if u ever seen any of the fights ecpt the first to wolverine had with the hulk it show wolverine taking derect hits from the hulk. batman can hurt a dude who takes bullet to the chest and laugh them off. there is oen enw comic were bullet affect him but they were magnetized and they he got shock bye baicly lighting after beeing shot with these bullets and the only people who cna make these bullets is shield and it still doesent stop wolverine. oh woverine vs spiderman was good comic but basicly wolverine beat his ass then let spider man smash his skull against a tome stone and he laugh at him. then spider man grap wolverine neck and wolverine puts his hand wich he could easly thrush his claws out but new new spiderman wouldent try to break his neck wich wouldent work any ways since it un braeckable and also his neck woudl just heal right away wich happen in a comic when he was hti bye a truck and his metal was taken out.
Wolverine8888, I have also read the "Spider-man vs Wolverine" comic you are referring to, but I don't remember it that way.
The way I remember it, it was a draw: Spider-man could only win if he broke Wolverines neck. But Spider-man isn't a murderer, so that didn't happen. But nobody lost and nobody won. There is no shame in it.
And you are right when you say Wolverine was smiling when Spider-man was hitting him, but he was the one who was down, not Spider-man !! Wolverine could laugh his ass off until Kingdom come, but Spider-man was still standing, not Wolverine.
But to return to the thread, Wolverine would probably win in a fight against Batman.
dude wolevrine let spider man smash his head and it dident even hurt him and in the end wolverine had his hand wich could throu his claw throu spidy neck and spiderman had wolverine neck wich he thou he could break(sorry but wolverine neck can't be broken. also when the super metal was taken out he did brake his neck and quess what ahppen wolverine neck heal right a away. also wolverine now cant die even if u incengrate him.
And you are right when you say Wolverine was smiling when Spider-man was hitting him, but he was the one who was down, not Spider-man !!
That right there is pure BS. Spiderman can lift 10 TONS. Spiderman has knocked Wolverine OUT. Spiderman would have to PULL his punches else Wolverine would suffer the most severe concussions ever.
When I say it is "pure BS," I am not referencing you - I am referencing the writer.
LoL, Spiderman dodges bullets and has a spider sense. Wolverine could NEVER touch Spiderman if Spiderman so chose.
Wolverine9999, I might consider responding again when you learn how to construct a cogent argument.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
dude he beat spider man twice so learn to read comic more if ur going to talk
Ok, this is starting to get on my nerves. let me make one thing clear:
the results in comic book fights are always dependent on the writer writing them. therefore, it is not advisable to refer to past comics on deciding which hero wins in these vs. threads. the writer may have many reasons on deciding who wins and who loses. maybe one is more popular, maybe the other is a villain, and sometimes the writer plays it safe and just makes it a draw. i mean, i've read some comics in which the villain is completely beaten eventhough he is obviously a lot more powerful. the reason for his defeat? because he is the villain and the hero should win. Do you guys get my point? I read the "spiderman vs. wolverine" comics, and as far as i can tell it ended in a draw... which is utter BS coz i don't think wolverine would stand a hell's chance against spiderman.
so i repeat my comment, maybe we should just stop using comic books as references and just use factual statistics of the superhero's powers (like the marvel encyclopedia or something) plus some plain damn common sense.
it was spiderman comic and in both fights it was spiderman comic think about it oh and the pulling punch shit bull shit since spider man full state that he is givign it all he gots. so if it was spider man comci why woudl it show wolverine wining. also the wright shit onyl realy goes for that one punshier right who hates wolverine and spiderman u know that gay oen that makes them look stupid his name liek john some thing. oh and spider man has never nocked wolverine out so dont bother sayign it inless u knwo the comic name.
look, even if it was a spiderman comic, the writer still has to show wolverine some respect (else i don't think it would be published) so he couldn't just show wolverine getting mopped around. but neither did the comic show wolverine beating the crap out of spiderman. like i said, the writer was playing it safe. probably didn't wan't to offend any fans of both men.
dude wolverine was clearly winning also that did stop punshier righter show spider man and wolverine as fool and falling for stupid ass tricks and show them get nocked out from hulk in one hti even though both of them have been hit bye hulk tons of tiems and havent been nocked otu ecpt for the first comic wolverine was in
After reading this thread, I can still see that a civil conversation between some of us is still impossible. Regardless, the only point that I would like to make is sometimes the writers in different books (even different issues) portray the characters in a different light. We, as readers, have to take this as it comes. It doesnt matter if it was horrible writing and Wolverine grabbed Spiderman by the neck although it shouldnt have happened like that. Well, guess what? It did happen like that because a writer, that is paid by a respectable company wrote it like that. Theres nothing anybody can do about it. It was done!
Originally posted by tkitna
After reading this thread, I can still see that a civil conversation between some of us is still impossible. Regardless, the only point that I would like to make is sometimes the writers in different books (even different issues) portray the characters in a different light. We, as readers, have to take this as it comes. It doesnt matter if it was horrible writing and Wolverine grabbed Spiderman by the neck although it shouldnt have happened like that. Well, guess what? It did happen like that because a writer, that is paid by a respectable company wrote it like that. Theres nothing anybody can do about it. It was done!
exactly,thats why wolverine can hold his own with the hulk or why superman can beat the hulk no problem-character strength arent consistent in comics
Theres nothing anybody can do about it. It was done!
Big difference between something "being done" and something being accepted as canon, is it not?
Big difference between a writer's accurate portrayal (for example, Wolverine beating Lobo in a contest decided by fans) of a character and a fan vote, is it not? Examples?
Wolverine slashing Silver Surfer's body. Horrible writing.
Wolverine ever touching Spiderman (you know, the Spiderman that beat the hell out of Firelord; the Spiderman that is aware of bullets ABOUT to be fired?). Shoddy writing.
If you were privy to insider information, you would be aware of the backlash that this "shoddy writing" engenders - for example, in the Wolverine series Punisher stalemated him (admittedly far-fetched). Pandemonium ensued.
The writer made sure Wolverine stomped Punisher in their very next meeting.
Another example? The Superman vs. Thor battle in Marvel vs. DC. LoL, should have seen how that ignited messageboards all over. Shazam's lightning made Superman's nose bleed and brought him to his knees. THOR'S lightning would destroy Superman. Thor's GOD STRIKE would destroy Superman. Mjolnir ABSORBS all forms of energy (including Superman's eye rays) - Mark Waid's Thor fighting Superman was BLEH.
Sadly enough, MANY of the participants of this particular messageboard know very little of the character's history and abilities that they speak on.
Perfect examples?
wolvie would kick the shit out of batman. the bat has no powers. all wolvie needs to do is stab him once, end of story. i cant even believe this is a discussion.
also wolverine ahrdly every trys to kill these villians he faces if u noctice wheen he trys to kill them msot of the time there dead in under a minut
Carry on.