The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay mangareader hasn't been ****ing working for me since I had to reformat this computer.

I'm mad.

NemeBro, pay attention to what I am about to divulge (this is actually a serious business reply)...

It is the filters on Mangareader. It is a "access" problem based on your IP address.

I got around this by using a UK proxy server. Turn on your proxy server and put in a UK proxy. You only need to type in the IP address and save the changes.

Here is a listing of good UK Proxies:

http://www.xroxy.com/proxy-country-GB.htm

I used the first one:

213.215.169.21

I seriously could not access those Mangareader pages, as well.

Are you using Chrome?

If so, go to the wrench icon on the top right-hand side.

Click "settings" from the menu.

It opens a new tab with some options on the left. Click on "under the hood".

Then click the option for, "Change proxy settings."

If you are using Windows 7, it should open up the network configuration settings for "internet properties".

Click on the "LAN Settings" button.

Then check mark the box for "Use a proxy bla bla bla".

When you check mark it, you can then type in the proxy server's IP address and the default port will be port 80.

Use 213.215.169.21.

Then click ok and then click ok again.

Chrome is instant so you do not have to close it and re-open it (shit is cash). Bam, you can start viewing the Mangareader pages, now.

Be sure and turn OFF the proxy by going back to that area and unchecking the box. Any time you want to view manga on mangareader, the IP address is already saved, saving you time.

remember to uncheck the proxy server for when you are regularly surfing the web. The ping times will make it slower to respond (sluggish).

Seriously, this is the coolest thing I have ever told anyone how to do on KMC. There is a huge world open to you now because I have told you how to do all of this. Use this knowledge wisely. Do not do anything illegal. And most of all, don't troll KMC with it or the mods may get mad at me for sharing. I only shared this here because the manga and anime peeps are cool people (even you, Aura *hugs*).

I have no idea what the **** you just said bro.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
irony detected

Yea, it's too bad we don't know anything the Uzumaki did... like seal the kyuubi, or imprison it in chains, or even physically hold back it's claws with pure muscle.

Oh wait, we do 🙂

Or knowledge of specific powers!

Huh, got those too, even with Mito.

Now, here's a question for you: Name something that we know Hiruzen can do, aside from what he did as an old guy?

Abilities, fights, whatever, I don't care which. Every big feat we know from him is from when he's old, as far as I know.

The irony is you don't realize you undermine your point every time you try and bring that up.

Or to put it another way: Why are you so bad at this?

This is so hot.

Btw, I would actually like to add Hiruzen in his prime to the list, so if anyone knows any feats that gives an indication of powers that I've forgotten, go for it.

It'd be really useful if Onoki mumbled something about how Hiruzen was always able to avoid his dust techniques or what have you.

mito's husband probably had the kyuubi docile as phuck when she became it's host.

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, I would actually like to add Hiruzen in his prime to the list, so if anyone knows any feats that gives an indication of powers that I've forgotten, go for it.

It'd be really useful if Onoki mumbled something about how Hiruzen was always able to avoid his dust techniques or what have you.

Well....the only thing we know is that he was, probably, stronger than Danzo(sans his transplant stuff) and Tobirama.

As for his abilities, he apparently learned how to do all kinds of Konoha techniques....granted, he didn't show any of them off and a lot of them, particularly Kage Mane, would have been helpful.

give the man credit. he was touted as being quite uber in his prime, retires, but then becomes hokage again two generations later and still puts up way more of a fight than gaaradad in the same predicament with the only issue being his advanced age. orochimaru knew not to phuck around with him again after getting pwnt (only the love of a genius student stayed hiruzen's hand) unless he had an ace up his sleeve.

Can read th4e scans just fine.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
mito's husband probably had the kyuubi docile as phuck when she became it's host.

But we know that she did the sealing, something that even Minato couldn't do without first reducing it, so she's better with seals than him.

And we know she has a power that only comes from having control of the Kyuubi's chakra, ala what Naruto did, and we know that's flat-out uber.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Well....the only thing we know is that he was, probably, stronger than Danzo(sans his transplant stuff) and Tobirama.

Danzo seems a given.

Even Tobirama we can't really say for certain, though. He apparently had some great space-time abilities.

As for his abilities, he apparently learned how to do all kinds of Konoha techniques....granted, he didn't show any of them off and a lot of them, particularly Kage Mane, would have been helpful.

Yea, he knew a lot, we just don't know what they are. Which is the annoying part.

If we knew some of the S-class moves he could pull when at full chakra, or who'd he used them against, we'd know where to place him.

Originally posted by Q99
Danzo seems a given.

Even Tobirama we can't really say for certain, though. He apparently had some great space-time abilities.

Yea, he knew a lot, we just don't know what they are. Which is the annoying part.

Quite. But still, Danzo isn't too shabby.

Eh...I'm going based off Hiruzen saying something like "I'm the strongest here" when Tobirama was there.

Indeed. He knew a lot apparently but didn't show enough.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Quite. But still, Danzo isn't too shabby.

Eh...I'm going based off Hiruzen saying something like "I'm the strongest here" when Tobirama was there.

Did he say that? Lemme check!

*Checks*

Hm, he did say he was the best of the group, but he might've just been referring to the ones from the two teams there. Danzo calls Tobirama the strongest in the village shortly after.

Indeed. He knew a lot apparently but didn't show enough.

Honestly my picture of him is something like Kakashi, but more so- it's not that he had a single killer technique or ability, but that he always knows just the right one to mess up and outsmart his opponent. Good all around with an answer to everything.

Originally posted by dadudemon
IMO, that's hard to tell if there was actually a forest created. It may have been just local. I have looked at the scans before and after and I cannot tell if it is just a few trees or a forest. Besides, Yamato looks exhausted and fed-up in the panel you showed.

He looks fed-up, not exhausted. It was a bunch of trees that were enough to cushion the fall of every single animal there, and it dwarfs the size of the largest animal present.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, Hashirama created the forest in no time, flat. Like..faster than any shower you presented. It was absurdly fast and near instant. The only thing I can think of that did a wood sumon that fast was Yamato to the wood house.

Also, the barrier is quite a large rectangular cuboid:

http://www.mangareader.net/93-123-1/naruto/chapter-118.html

Hashirama filled that up, immediately.

http://www.mangareader.net/93-127-4/naruto/chapter-122.html

The forest is quite huge. I would put it at about the same size as the one that Madara threw at Naruto.

Mix in the fact that it was nearly instant and you can see that Hashirama's mukotan is faster and more potent that Madara's. More to the point, Hashirama seems to be able to create it faster and has more minute detail control over his (he was grabbing onto Hiruzen as Hiruzen was trying to get away...something I do not remember Madara doing with the Kage).

Also, keep in mind that Hashirama could only fill up the place he was confined in. If they were not confined, a forest creation that fast would fill up the landscape every bit as fast as Madara's did when he used that "choke out" version.

I do not see any of the above information as contradicting Kishimoto's continuity problems in power. I still see hashirama's mukotan being every bit as potent as Madara's...and at that, Hashriama's seems faster and more detailed in accuracy. Like I said, it filled up the rectangular cuboid, which was quite large, very quickly: nigh instantly.

No, it's nowhere near the size of the one Madara threw at Naruto and you'd either be trolling or a fool if you say it was the size of the one Madara used when he wanted to put the Kages to sleep. The cuboid looks like it is roughly 25m in height and 15m in length. Assuming a it has the same width as the length, you'd have a cuboid of roughly 5625m^3. This forest is immensely greater than that. That small figure on top of the hill from where the Fire jutsu is being used is Susano'o, which based on this scan, has roughly the same height as that cuboid.
Yamato making that forest to cushion their fall when the Turtle flipped over was probably faster than what Hashirama did.

Indeed, he was confined. That however does not mean he would be incapable of creating Wood outside the barrier, based on how his Mokuton can be created remotely. This means that the forest in the cuboid was the actual size of the forest he created.

Originally posted by Q99
Did he say that? Lemme check!

*Checks*

Hm, he did say he was the best of the group, but he might've just been referring to the ones from the two teams there. Danzo calls Tobirama the strongest in the village shortly after.

Honestly my picture of him is something like Kakashi, but more so- it's not that he had a single killer technique or ability, but that he always knows just the right one to mess up and outsmart his opponent. Good all around with an answer to everything.

Yeah, I think it's safe to say he was incredibly versatile. Not that I'd use the databook, but I think he was touted as the strongest Kage at the time. Would make him > Onoki.

And he had a crystal ball awesome

But could he beat Wild Boar?

You all know we are going to get an OVA or episode showing how uber Prime Hiruzen was...eventually. The later in the series lifespan the more uber he will be shown.

Wishful thinking, I know, but it kind of sucks how we got nothing to show for his prime.

Then again maybe Sarutobi is better off that way.

Originally posted by NemeBro
But could he beat Wild Boar?

Only Random Love Letter Guy could beat Wild Boar.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Only Random Love Letter Guy could beat Wild Boar.

Why would he beat up his own pet?

Personal summon. He set it loose on the village, and only Itachi himself was capable of stopping it, and even then he needed aid!

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Why would he beat up his own pet?

Who said he would beat up his own pet?

Originally posted by Q99
Personal summon. He set it loose on the village, and only Itachi himself was capable of stopping it, and even then he needed aid!

Yeah. He wanted to get rid of young Sasuke.