The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by danteiscool1,600 pages

eh, Tobi, Madara, doesn't really matter what he's called now. RE: Blaxicon has a bit of a point: the guy doesn't really have much in the ways of a developed personality. so far at least. who knows, maybe his identity will be revealed soon and we'll be going through Kabuto is doing again.

on that note, Kabuto is certainly turning to be far more interesting than expected. it's actually almost worth the wait until the damn fight starts up again.

I found a new top 5 list so I'll share it with you guys and get your opinions: The top 5 underrated Naruto fighters. The list I found had it listed like this:

5. Gin/Kin
4. Rock Lee
3. Konan
2. 3rd Raikage
1. Shikamaru

It's an...interesting group of choices for this type of list but whatever. Tell me who you guys think are the most underrated Naruto fighters. I'll think of mine too.

Ok, I can see Gin and Kin (they fought Kage!), and Konan and even sorta-Lee, but 3rd Raikage and Shikamaru? Those two seem pretty well respected to me.

I agree. The reasoning for Gin and Kin actually made me not dislike them as much. Not the whole beating up the kage but the fact that they were beating up the Kyuubi from INSIDE HIS ****ING BELLY! Dude, that is awesome!

But yeah, I don't know anyone who has underrated Shikamaru or 3rd Raikage really.

I think you mean overrated. That list is comprised of over-rated "fighters".

Konan.

Shikamaru.

Gin and Kin. These two get their rating for taking on the potentially weakest hokage. Over...rated. Their only strength was leeching chakra from the Kyubi.

3rd Raikage.

Lee is the only one that isn't overrated. Everyone is aware of his weaknesses and his strengths (the fans).

Wait, who rates Gin and Kin super-high?

They took on two Kage and we still rate them pretty low, and that seems pretty common.

And you think 3rd Kage is overrated? He seemed really darn tough to me.

Nah, the list pretty definitively said underrated. I'm going to look at the strongest now. A few characters I feel are underrated in no particular order would be:

Torune
Sai
Sakura
Mei
Yamato

Edit:Wow, this guy called Itachi underrated. haermm

Yea, Sai and Yamato'd definitely be on my 'underrated' list.

Not sure about Mei- while not a lot of people call her super-strong, I don't think I've heard anyone call her weak.


Edit:Wow, this guy called Itachi underrated.

Hah!

Mei is in the same position as Sakura really in that her peers are the other Kage. In reality, Tsunade is a far better person to be on an underrated list I suppose but I don't think much of her anyway. And I like Mei's support abilities more cause I'm fickle and stuff. :T

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Mei is in the same position as Sakura really in that her peers are the other Kage. In reality, Tsunade is a far better person to be on an underrated list I suppose but I don't think much of her anyway. And I like Mei's support abilities more cause I'm fickle and stuff. :T

Yea, but I don't think people actually rate Mei poorly in comparison to the other Kage. I got the impression people tend to rate her as a mid-tier Kage.

Not like Sakura, who has peers of much stronger characters.

Eh, I think they do. A speed blitzes her, Onoki can nuke her, Gaara is just a monster. She's also gotten the least amount of screentime during the Kage Summit and attention later. I think Kishi underrates her. 😛

She's gotten the least amount of attention, but I've seen people rate her total power pretty well.

Onoki's agreed to be the flat-out strongest, but an acid cloud makes approaching her iffy (and is something Sand won't stop well), she did have no problem with Sasuke, and she's got a lot of range. Iirc awhile back when people here ranked the 5 kage she tended to be right in the middle. I was actually surprised by some people's ratings.

Originally posted by Q99
Wait, who rates Gin and Kin super-high?

Wankers on various forums.

Originally posted by Q99
They took on two Kage and we still rate them pretty low, and that seems pretty common.

I don't remember the second kage, to be honest. Was that the 2nd raikage? My mind is blank, here.

Originally posted by Q99
And you think 3rd Kage is overrated? He seemed really darn tough to me.

Oh yeah. People wank all over that guy.

Third Raikage gets WTF PWNED with some good ol' genjutsu.

People like Orochimaru, Itachi, and Sasuke would roll right over the Sandaime Raikage without much effort.

Sure, he has a super ultra powerful stabby/slashy attack AND he's fast...but it is strictly close range stuff. Sure, he has a very tough defensive body, but it is still close range. Look at Gai: he has a mid-range attack when he goes gates. IMO, that makes him a better fighter than the 3rd Raikage. Basically, I consider that 3rd Raikage to be a very one dimensional fighter. And A does one a bit further, imo, with his lightning armor AND amps. I think A is a better Raikage, overall...despite the fact that they are both pretty much the same type of ninja.

Also, does every Raikage get the title of A?

Originally posted by dadudemon

I don't remember the second kage, to be honest. Was that the 2nd raikage? My mind is blank, here.

Yea. Who, granted, we know nothing about, but still, two kage!


Oh yeah. People wank all over that guy.

Third Raikage gets WTF PWNED with some good ol' genjutsu.

We don't know that he's particularly weak to it. While Itachi may be able to manage, I wouldn't take it as a given that he'd be easily taken out by anyone good at genjutsu.

He is so tough that unless the genjutsu *itself* takes him out (like Tsukiyomi can, but unlike most other genjutsu), it's very hard to take advantage. Even if genjutsu makes him stand around and not defend himself for 10 seconds, 'totally open for attack,' it'll be quite hard to actually take him down in that time.


Sure, he has a super ultra powerful stabby/slashy attack AND he's fast...but it is strictly close range stuff.

He also has Black Lightning, a powerful ranged ability that Darui got from him.


Also, does every Raikage get the title of A?

A very good question.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I found a new top 5 list so I'll share it with you guys and get your opinions: The top 5 underrated Naruto fighters. The list I found had it listed like this:

5. Gin/Kin
4. Rock Lee
3. Konan
2. 3rd Raikage
1. Shikamaru

It's an...interesting group of choices for this type of list but whatever. Tell me who you guys think are the most underrated Naruto fighters. I'll think of mine too.

Most under-rated fighter?

Definitely Suigetsu. awesome

Originally posted by Q99

We don't know that he's particularly weak to it. While Itachi may be able to manage, I wouldn't take it as a given that he'd be easily taken out by anyone good at genjutsu.

He is so tough that unless the genjutsu *itself* takes him out (like Tsukiyomi can, but unlike most other genjutsu), it's very hard to take advantage. Even if genjutsu makes him stand around and not defend himself for 10 seconds, 'totally open for attack,' it'll be quite hard to actually take him down in that time.

Who says genjutsu would even work on him?

A's Raiton Shroud amped reflexes made him immune to a Sharingan genjutsu, and it is all but certain that the 3rd's reflexes are just as fast when he's using his Raiton Shroud. Whether or not that applies to MS genjutsu remains to be seen.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

A's Raiton Shroud amped reflexes made him immune to a Sharingan genjutsu

It did? I don't recall that coming up.

I'm certain he was trying to trap A in a genjutsu here. All but certain the same genjutsu was then used to floor C.

chapter's out

mangastream is also back to hosting shippuuden!

Where's chapter 585 out at? It's not on manga stream.

Originally posted by Q99
We don't know that he's particularly weak to it. While Itachi may be able to manage, I wouldn't take it as a given that he'd be easily taken out by anyone good at genjutsu.

He is so tough that unless the genjutsu *itself* takes him out (like Tsukiyomi can, but unlike most other genjutsu), it's very hard to take advantage. Even if genjutsu makes him stand around and not defend himself for 10 seconds, 'totally open for attack,' it'll be quite hard to actually take him down in that time.

Everyone is susceptible to genjutsu. Just depends on the genjtusu being used and if they know how to counter it.

As far as taking advantage of it, we already know that you cannot train your insides to become stronger so any fast gentle fist user that can use genjtsu would be a poor choice against Sandaime Raikage. In fact...any jonin of the main house branch should be a decent match for Sandaime Raikage...they just have to be fast enough to keep up with him.

Also, someone can easily kill him via his eyeballs...even when he is all armored up.

Originally posted by Q99
He also has Black Lightning, a powerful ranged ability that Darui got from him.

We do not know to what extent he can use that ability. He did not use that jutsu at range. We cannot really give him any feats with that.

Originally posted by Q99
A very good question.

I think so...because wasn't B named something else before he became the jinchuriki?