Originally posted by Q99
The paper angel technique your translation mentions? That is her paper form technique- you know, the one she uses to look like an angel. Your translation is saying the exact same thing.And note the paper she's wearing falling apart- visually showing it's her own paper affected.
Hey, go to that wikia page it points to for a second.
First thing on the header?
"Warning: This article or section may contain false information. There is little or no citation on this information and its validity cannot be vouched for."
Go to the talk page for elaboration:
"Which info is false ? It seems correct to my knowledge. --speysider (talk) 16:15, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
In the chapter the paper ocean thing was used, Konan talked about how her "Paper Person of God" technique was dissipating because of her having used too much chakra. [b]However, she never specifically mentioned the paper ocean thing to be that technique. Therefore, the assumption that she was referring to this technique can be regarded as false info.
--Kind-Hearted-One (talk) 16:33, March 9, 2012 (UTC)""I'm not entirely sure if she's talking about this technique. She says her 'Paper Angel technique' wore off due to using so much chakra, but note that she's no longer turning into paper either. ZeroSD (talk) 22:06, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
I thought it was perfectly clear that the Paper Angel technique (shouldn't that be Kami Tenchi?) was the technique she used to turn herself into paper and fly, like the way she appeared before Jiraiya. She stated that that technique wore off as the paper fell of her. The (Exploding) Paper Abyss on the other hand simply completed.Rayfire (talk) 00:51, September 16, 2010 (UTC)"
"I'd say the names match the abilities pretty well, actually. The Paper Angel Technique, in my opinion, is not the giant chasm of paper Konan created. I think it refers either to her ability to turn herself (and other things) into paper, or her ability to control that paper. When Konan mentioned her technique was cancelling, her hair ornament and all the other paper flowers started to fall apart. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 11:46, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
I thought that was Dance of the Shikigami? Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:06, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Dance is likely her paper creation/control while Angel is specifically the transformation. It is telling that she doesn't say she runs out of bombs, she says she runs out of chakra to sustain Paper Angel. Considering her transformation actually gives her angel wings, I do think that's what she was referring to.ZeroSD (talk) 02:13, September 18, 2010 (UTC)"
"The later point, that it just died for some reason and no one ever cared seems the more likely. That doesn't really make it right tough. She was refered to as the angel of god/pain and clearly made of paper with the wings. So paper angel of god tech seems to very specifically refer to that, and the point about the flower falling apart when she said she didn't have enough chakra to use it anymore, seems to really drive it home. 98.71.122.74 (talk) 20:32, April 26, 2011 (UTC)miah"
The Paper ocean technique was never specifically referred to by name, and there's a visual link between her thought bubble and her own paper, so there's wide consensus that it's her transformation that is turned off. Even the Naruto wikia people are treating the name as an incorrect placeholder, including mods like ShounenSuki.
And there is the matter that when she does use it, she is defended against so many attacks in any case. [/B]
Sorry, you're wrong. 🙂
That's not a correct translation, as well.
kami no shisha no jutsu is the jutsu she used against Tobi in the lake. The translation for that is "paper person of god technique" or "God's art of paper" OR..."God's Paper Art" depending on how well you want to translate it into English.
I apologize that you have been participating in baseless speculation. Paper Angel Technique is an entirely different translation. Her paper form is called Shikigami no Mai. This is backed up in databook 3 where a section under Shikigami no Mai, shows her turning her body into paper and wrapping up the
Under the section for Shikigami no Mai, in the 3rd databook (page 264):
"By converting one's own body into countless small pieces of paper, they can move freely and have the ability to change form! It has many uses from reconnaissance to surprise attacks. Furthermore, the magical way the countless pieces of paper dance in mid-air, changing shape, gives them a fascinating charm."
The fact that it was translated to "Paper Angel Technique" which many speculated was her literal paper angel form (where she literally makes angel wings) is also false. She never once assumed that form against Tobi. You're riding on the coat-tails on a mistranslation perpetuated by a couple of translators.
Again, I find your use of this particular argument dishonest. Not only did you quote very old speculation in the talk page, you failed to quote the sections where people quite handily settled the discussion.
Here are some things that you had to go out of your way to do that were dishonest on your part:
1. You used an incorrect translation specifically to fit your agenda. It's not the "Paper Angel Technique". It is "kami no shisha no jutsu", Paper Person of God Technique, Paper technique (executed by a person) of God, or Paper God Technique.
2. You used old "talk" sections on a wiki that supported your agenda but failed to include the later talk to clearly resolved* the discussion. You definitely had to go out of your way because there's no way you missed the sections that resolved the problem/debate.
3. The results on the google search show many different locations on the internet that show the conclusion of that technique being the massive lake splitter attack against Tobi.
4. Ignore the intro headers for the chapter, which you have read recently multiple times:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v54/c510/
*Before you say it, the discussion is resolved. However, mods are still weary because they themselves had supported the old translation so they want a 4th databook to resolve the supposed debate. However, there is no debate and it is only their ego that prevents them from removing the header on the page.