The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
You know, I like Sasuke. I like Madara and I like Tobi. These guys have a special technique called the Sharingan. It's not favored among a lot of fans for being so overpowered and stupid. I defend it because the jutsu come with a cost it would seem(save for Tobi's but we don't really know much about his), unlike say the Dust Release, the most broken thing in this manga next to Itachi's weapons.

And then Izanami comes along and fawks things over. Oh, it comes with a cost sure. I'm more pissed about it existing at all. How AWESOME would it have been to see Itachi and Sasuke trying to figure out a way to catch Kabuto in a genjutsu and get this fixed? They could have had some awesome plans, on the fly techs, some really good teamwork.

But no, instead Itachi just happens to have a technique that fixes everything. Final Getsuga Tensho had more foreshadowing than freaking Izanami. It makes the Sharingan look even more stupid and cheap than before(which...quite frankly is hard to believe) but it robbed me of an awesome fight opportunity. The best part about this fight was how creative Kabuto was being and the one instance of the Uchiha using their powers in a unique way, by breaking the other out of the genjutsu.

And it ends with this and I'm depressed. I started to like Kabuto again but Itachi just had to ruin it. F***ing Izanami.

Lulz.

I imagine Uchiha haters all over the world are currently brewing up shitstorms.

meh, I don't like sharingan that much since as most people say, it is pretty hax for the Narutoverse, but without it I doubt the Uchiha characters would make for much of a real threat. except Itachi, Madara, and Tobi, but that's about it. yeah, Itachi kinda ruined this pretty awesome fight with Izanami, but hopefully Kabuto, being the smart little bastard he is, can figure out a way to break out of the move and force the fight to continue on.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Lulz.

I imagine Uchiha haters all over the world are currently brewing up shitstorms.

Well I mean they would do that anyway. The Uchiha don't actually have to do anything for that to happen.

But this is like prime meat to them. :T

I wonder what Uchiha-tards are doing then. vin

Seriously though, while this jutsu is extremely broken, it has a ridiculous cost, and some start-up time, at least for Itachi. After all Kabuto managed to stop Itachi from using the tech the first time here, with his inorganic control tech...unless that was actually when Itachi trapped Kabuto.

Kabuto could replicate a new body or some shizer. If it's all in his mind, he should be able to knock himself out with some flesh laying around...or even a summon.

There are sixth senses that genjutsu cannot control...like Aizen's sword I suppose.

Even better is Orochimaru might come out and play now that Kabuto's mind is stilled.

Man, Kishimoto would be my new hero if that happened.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hooray.

So how do you (and Demonic Phoenix, and anyone else) think I should list him?

Current Gai at S, pretty strait forward. But pre-timeskip?

Maybe:
Gai (7 Gates)- S
Gai (6 Gates)- S-

?

Rank him the way I've been telling you to rank people for the past year or so.

Who is the weakest person 7-gate Gai would lose to? If he can destroy everyone in the S range, and the S+ range, but can't beat the people in the SS range, than put him in SS.

As an example ^

Originally posted by Q99
So how do you (and Demonic Phoenix, and anyone else) think I should list him?

Current Gai at S, pretty strait forward. But pre-timeskip?

Maybe:
Gai (7 Gates)- S
Gai (6 Gates)- S-

?

I can't argue with A+ because... I honestly couldn't place him at all.

Originally posted by Q99
So how do you (and Demonic Phoenix, and anyone else) think I should list him?

Current Gai at S, pretty strait forward. But pre-timeskip?

Maybe:
Gai (7 Gates)- S
Gai (6 Gates)- S-

?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Lee could open 5 and use Reverse Lotus; but since he did not display them, ranking him without gates usage, like you've done, is the way to go I guess.

So pre-timeskip Gai, keep him at A+ purely out of power scaling with Kakashi, a known A+?

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Rank him the way I've been telling you to rank people for the past year or so.

Who is the weakest person 7-gate Gai would lose to? If he can destroy everyone in the S range, and the S+ range, but can't beat the people in the SS range, than put him in SS.

As an example ^

I think there are some S-s he could lose to, but he'd beat most of them. He'd also beat a good deal of Ss, but not all. S+s... there's a few he'd stand a chance against, but most he'd lose to.

And yea, I think that's a very good way to consider rankings (though things can be plus or minus a bit when someone has other combat utility. Major healing powers or sensor powers don't necessarily grant much fighting ability, but especially at the low ranks are significant in ninja usefulness).

Yeah, I would keep him there if only because he is supposed to be on Kakashi's level.

So who the hell is Han? Or Gyuki?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Yeah, I would keep him there if only because he is supposed to be on Kakashi's level.

So who the hell is Han? Or Gyuki?

Han- the Scorpion-looking Jinchuuriki with five-tails and steam-boosted strength.

Gyuki- Killerbee's 8-legged partner, who else!

God I feel dumb.

Originally posted by dadudemon

He can make Kabuto do the seals with his hands just like Kabuto did with Oro's hands when his arms didn't work.

Oh and if Orochimaru did come into play, I would completely forget this chapter happened.

I still don't want ET to end mostly due to Madara and wondering WTF happended to Muu.

Originally posted by Q99
So pre-timeskip Gai, keep him at A+ purely out of power scaling with Kakashi, a known A+?

Yes.
Feats-wise though, he's A, at best, IMO.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
But has Itachi ever used the Sharingan for it's basic abilities. Most of the time he relies on magic eyeball tech. Well Madara does too but he's actually awesome.

Oh and if Orochimaru did come into play, I would completely forget this chapter happened.

I still don't want ET to end mostly due to Madara and wondering WTF happended to Muu.

Orochimaru is in play. Did you not see that phallic shaped structure coming out of Kabuto's torso? vin

Yeah. Madara is easily the best character to appear during this 4th World War arc. Trollkage too.
Izanami will probably end with Kabuto deciding to be his own self, and ending ET, but that might take a while. It's the only way I see ET going on for now, other than Kabuto somehow breaking out of Izanami, which should not happen, not if it is in the same class as Izanagi.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So uh, anyone else think Izanami seems like a vague rip-off of Janenju, an ability used by Kurama from Yu Yu Hakusho?

Kurama used it against an opponent that would not die, and it is done by inserting a plant into their bloodstream IIRC (A lot of Kurama's techniques rely on that).

But what it basically did was force the villain, Elder Toguro, to play a loop of fighting Kurama over and over again in his mind, but never able to win, only an endless stalemate (Normally the trauma would kill the opponent, but Elder Toguro is immortal so he just looped to infinity).

Just... Like Izanami.

yup. had the same thought when i read it.

Kind of called it. This only adds to the already night-endless hax that is Sharigan. Made most of this fight -which was very decent- pointless.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I wonder what Uchiha-tards are doing then. vin

Seriously though, while this jutsu is extremely broken, it has a ridiculous cost, and some start-up time, at least for Itachi. After all Kabuto managed to stop Itachi from using the tech the first time here, with his inorganic control tech...unless that was actually when Itachi trapped Kabuto.

If Orochimaru came out...could he somehow posses Itachi? I'd like to see what Orochimaru would do if he ever got a sharingan.

Originally posted by dadudemon

He can make Kabuto do the seals with his hands just like Kabuto did with Oro's hands when his arms didn't work.

But doesn't he have to actually know the hand seals? It would seem that only 3 people have ever known it, 2 of them are dead.

See, I think that is just PIS. Itachi's eye should regen back to the state it was in when he was resurrected because everything else does.

I agree. If everything else regens, so should the eyes.