The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Blitzed Nagato? When? PIS does not invalidate Naruto being unable to decide on whether or not he should blitz Nagato, so try again.
Half-dead red haired Nagato with Konan to double-team Naruto> Edo Tensei infinite chakra white haired Nagato.

Still could have communicated with him when he was in the tree.

Blitzed Pain rather. It does when it's fairly consistent during the fight(you're not going to tell me Naruto wasn't stupid during that fight).
And...not really. An infinite chakra Nagato managed to handle Naruto and Bee with no difficulty.

Could but we didn't see that and it's likely not to have happened since Nagato was kinda sorta in the middle of something. Besides, if he told Nagato and Konan, why wouldn't Konan reveal the info to Naruto afterwards. It's pretty important.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Not really. That flashback happened ages ago and even if Kishi had planned out Dan's powers(unlikely), at the time it wouldn't have mattered since Dan was dead.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
A fist bump would've also been incredibly out of character for Itachi.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
You can write through both. The words "I love you" combined with him bringing Sasuke face to face with him when he always pushed him away before makes for a pretty nice image.

Originally posted by Astner
Conclusively it could've been executed better, and the fault lies within the author's planning.

But it worked just fine.

Originally posted by Astner
Why?

Because he has never done so and it doesn't seem like anything Itachi would be caught dead doing. If Itachi had fistbumped Sasuke, I think everyone in this thread would have legit lol'd.

Originally posted by Astner
You misunderstand the phrase, read it again.

"Write through actions, not words."

Not that hard to understand. Also not very hard to understand is that talking is itself an action and one that Itachi regrets not doing with Sasuke in the past. Actions define a character and Itachi choosing to tell Sasuke something without being vague is very defining.

Of course, that's ignoring the fact that these are his last words.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
A fist bump would've also been incredibly out of character for Itachi.

And lame considering his character context. That fist bump thing fits well for characters like Naruto and B, but not Itachi and Sasuke.

Originally posted by Q99
Things only turn to stone if they're absorbing sage chakra,which I don't think paper does.

I thought the chakra was around his person, not inside? Meaning...you just have to touch Naruto while he collects the chakra, not be absorbing it (it takes several seconds which means it is not an effective mid-battle tech unless someone has you in a hold).

Then Naruto has no way to avoid being smothered unless he uses the "force push" stuff from his sage art taijutsu. I do not know if that is enough to keep it off/away from his face. Does he have any countermeasures to the paper hugs (cute) from Konan?

Originally posted by Q99
They are one of her main offenses, using them in sets of 4.

Also she'll use paper to make larger weapons, forming a large paper spear and such.

I do not see the spear as being effective against a Sage's body due to the massive durability bump. I consider those stalagmites to be harder than the paper constructs Konan makes.

To put it this way: Naruto can tank the shinra tensei but Gamabunta broke a lot of bones. That's the difference in durability it adds.

So I do not see things like spears being too effective. I do see, however, the bone sword and/or spear from Kimimaru being very effective against a Sage's increased durability.

Would a giant ball rasengan be effective against a cloud of paper? It seems like the violent swirling effect an the destructive force would be very effective against paper.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Blitzed Nagato?

Technically, Naruto did a fake blitz against Nagato in the tree. Not sure if it counts because Naruto was not going to actually go through with it.

Naruto also blitzed Asura path.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Half-dead red haired Nagato with Konan to double-team Naruto> Edo Tensei infinite chakra white haired Nagato.

I disagree.

The former could not do much and the later could do pretty much anything including a complete revival of himself.

I could have sworn the Garlic Jr. Saga would have clearly illustrated the advantage immortality has over mortality. 313

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Blitzed Pain rather. It does when it's fairly consistent during the fight(you're not going to tell me Naruto wasn't stupid during that fight).
And...not really. An infinite chakra Nagato managed to handle Naruto and Bee with no difficulty.

Could but we didn't see that and it's likely not to have happened since Nagato was kinda sorta in the middle of something. Besides, if he told Nagato and Konan, why wouldn't Konan reveal the info to Naruto afterwards. It's pretty important.

Asura Path =/= Nagato, and an opponent attacking someone you care about =/= opponent summoning a creature. No, Naruto was fairly stupid in that fight, but it still does not invalidate the lack of a blitz from Naruto when Nagato summoned that bird. Blitzes are not his style anyway, and he barely uses them with KCM as it is.
Red > White, so Red-haired Nagato > White Haired Nagato.
And he had more than enough chakra to handle Naruto.

Why would she, when Konan did not tell Naruto about Tobi's abilities, or that he founded Akatsuki, or that she had a contingency plan in case she had to defend herself, or that he had attacked Konoha in the past? They were far more important to Naruto & Konoha than the status of an unknown Jinchuurikii from Kumo.

Anyway, I'm dropping out of this argument. Take it as a concession if you want to.

Originally posted by Astner
Why?

He's never fist-bumped anyone, and he used to poke Sasuke's forehead in the past, not his fist.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He's never fist-bumped anyone, and he used to poke Sasuke's forehead in the past, not his fist.

Yes, this. A bit gayer than a fist bump, but still 'brotherly love' enough to make you go "awwwwe".

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Anyway, I'm dropping out of this argument. Take it as a concession if you want to.

WEGETDRTR

Listen ****er.

The only person allowed to do that is me. It's part of my charm. :T

Originally posted by dadudemon

I thought the chakra was around his person, not inside? Meaning...you just have to touch Naruto while he collects the chakra, not be absorbing it (it takes several seconds which means it is not an effective mid-battle tech unless someone has you in a hold).

The only time anyone turned to stone was when they were an absorber.

Even if someone was touching it, they wouldn't normally take it in, and the stone effect only happens if you take it in out of balance.

I do not see the spear as being effective against a Sage's body due to the massive durability bump. I consider those stalagmites to be harder than the paper constructs Konan makes.

The paper shurikens are at minimum as hard as the steel in kunai/shurikens according to the databooks. The same should apply to swords/spears, so tougher than stone.

Same principle as reinforcing bone or whatever else with chakra. Amount of reinforcement may vary, but legitimately dangerous weapons.

Would a giant ball rasengan be effective against a cloud of paper? It seems like the violent swirling effect an the destructive force would be very effective against paper.

It'd definitely destroy a big chunk of paper, IMO. Though Rasenshuriken'd be better since it shreds everything that even touches it to tiny bits, while a ball rasengan is likely going to just send many of the pieces flying around.

Everything leads to a Konan argument.

EVERYTHING.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
But it worked just fine.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Because he has never done so and it doesn't seem like anything Itachi would be caught dead doing. If Itachi had fistbumped Sasuke, I think everyone in this thread would have legit lol'd.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
"Write through actions, not words."

Not that hard to understand. Also not very hard to understand is that talking is itself an action and one that Itachi regrets not doing with Sasuke in the past. Actions define a character and Itachi choosing to tell Sasuke something without being vague is very defining.

Of course, that's ignoring the fact that these are his last words.

Originally posted by Astner
But it could've been done better.

Can be said about anything.

Originally posted by Astner
He had never really been friendly with Sasuke as a young adult. In other words we had no frame of reference.

Understatement. But this isn't like Bee, who looks like the type of person to do a fist bump and has a connection to the action. A fist bump would have been the most random expression of love and I don't think anyone would be able to see Itachi doing it.

Originally posted by Astner
The point of the phrase is to empathize on the importance and impact of subtlety, it's easy to write: "I love you.", but it's difficult to show it. On top of that, it was a very awkward scene.

That's what the embrace was for. The "I love you" was merely something Sasuke had not heard his brother say in quite a long time.
And the scene didn't feel awkward for moi.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Everything leads to a Konan argument.

EVERYTHING.

Eh, this one's not much of an argument.

If Dadudemon responds with, "I don't think a forged steel sword could pierce Sage Naruto either," I don't think there's anywhere to go from there.

Is the sage mode really more durable than the chakra mode?

Originally posted by Astner
Is the sage mode really more durable than the chakra mode?

At first it looked that way- chakra mode did break his ankle when he mis-landed a high speed move.

I don't think the difference is great. It may be that Sage's passive durability is higher, while chakra mode he can focus the chakra for active defense better (like how he forms arms and such. He can move solidified chakra where he feels like).

He did take A's blow pretty well though.

Yea, but he saw 'em coming.

Anyway, it's hard to say for certain.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
WEGETDRTR

Listen ****er.

The only person allowed to do that is me. It's part of my charm. :T

Charm is infectious. flirt

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Everything leads to a Konan argument.

EVERYTHING.

Samson's Law.

Originally posted by Q99

The paper shurikens are at minimum as hard as the steel in kunai/shurikens according to the databooks. The same should apply to swords/spears, so tougher than stone.

Are these the same databooks that described Haku's & Kirin's speed as that of Lightspeed? uhuh

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Are these the same databooks that described Haku's & Kirin's speed as that of Lightspeed? uhuh

I do say those particular examples are hyperbole. And/or in Haku's case talking purely about 'porting between mirrors and not when he emerges from them. In any case, the vast majority of the stuff in the databooks is in line with the series, so I don't have a reason to disbelieve the reasonably claims.

Reinforcing stuff with chakra to be at least steel-hard is pretty common. Kimimaro's bone drills get a lot harder than that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Charm is infectious. flirt

Samson's Law.

If you say so. O:

Somehow I don't think it will be as popular as the other one.