The whole thing rests on how big the crater is. I'd like to see where they got 2000 meters. That seems quite ridiculous to me.
Got it. I have no idea how the hell it works, but using pixels looks unreliable to me.
The whole thing rests on how big the crater is. I'd like to see where they got 2000 meters. That seems quite ridiculous to me.
Got it. I have no idea how the hell it works, but using pixels looks unreliable to me.
Furthermore, the calc seems to be based off of faulty assumptions. It's assumed that the FRS followed this path, from right to left:
However, as we can see multiple times, there are trees right behind where Naruto was standing when he threw the FRS. And at least to me they don't seem to be particularly far away.
However in the above image there's no sign of trees behind where it assumes Naruto threw the FRS. You could say that this is because the image is too short, but if we compare to these images:
I think we can agree that they show about the same angle, judging from the forest at the bottom and the fact that theres no other angle it could be taken from imo because of the placement of that forest. If so then the forest behind where Naruto would be standing in front of is hidden behind hills/mountains, and not close enough to be the one behind Naruto in those images.
Therefore I propose that the FRS was actually thrown from somewhere closer to the treeline.
Minato's height compared to the Rock face, compared to all 4 faces, from that to the Village radius and then the Crater diameter. Assuming Kishi didn't mess up the size, nothing seems to be out of place with the scaling.
Naruto was on the opposite side of the impact area, all the way to the right.
Originally posted by dadudemon
WTF is the FRS?I understand Rs because Rs would be "Rasenshuriken".
But there is no such thing as an FRS. Is that supposed to be "Frown (pronounced like "thrown"😉 RasenShuriken?
I hate these stupid initialisms.
I think it works well, three letters distinguishes it from other abbreviations. I personally avoid them because it's not like saving one or two seconds not writing it out is worth the risk of having unnecessary questions regarding what it stands for.
@Neph: Oh, he used the road. If you look close you'll see a 2pix red dot on the road in the ball pic. I believe he scaled the road from another scan earlier. He admitted annoyance at scaling it.
Those two pics you posted arent from the same angle (path in the middle and the landscape at the top-right of the first one), so there may be trees in the second pic if it were wider.
We know Naruto was on the edge of the circle[pic1], and we know he threw it directly into the circle[pic2] down its diameter line. Going from one side to the other is the only path for it.
Scaling's alright as far as I'm concerned, though you can't really expect Kishi to follow exact sizes and ratios each and every time he draws.
Meh, I agree with Neph though, because his way means that something like Rasenshuriken isn't faster than every Bleach character except Ichigo.
And in all seriousness, it makes no sense for him to have thrown it from the right in this pic, as the damage only occurs from the left end of the crater up until the middle. We can't tell how far the Rasenshuriken crossed. Should be left end to middle.
Oh, one thing, the countdown started after Naruto threw his Rasenshuriken. So it isn't exactly 0.5 and 0.5.
EDIT: Looking at the anime, the Rasenshuriken's environmental damage starts somewhere just beyond the middle of the crater and moves to the left.
This makes little sense.
There isn't another angle its possible for the second one to show. There isn't a forest that big around the crater except the one at the bottom of the first image. Theres only two forests surrounding the crater and the other one is too small plus if that was the one shown in the second image then we should see the bigger forest to the right of it.
I'm just assuming that the path in the middle was overlooked or the panel was too small for them to draw it.
Originally posted by Astner
[b]Fūton: Rasen-Shuriken.I think it works well, three letters distinguishes it from other abbreviations. I personally avoid them because it's not like saving one or two seconds not writing it out is worth the risk of having unnecessary questions regarding what it stands for. [/B]
lol
But thank you for telling me what it stood for. I find the "F" portion particularly unnecessary.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Fūton: Rasenshuriken?
Then that would be "F:R" not "FRS".
Kids on the internet, these days. Just destroying any semblance of standards and proper communication (not you: you didn't come up with it...you're just going with what they presented).
As far as the actual argument, I do not get what it is even about. Sure, I understand it is coming up with a way to measure the speed of Naruto's thrown rasenshuriken, but I do not think, based on that thread you linked, we can conclude what they have concluded. It seems like there are one or two missing pieces of information.
Originally posted by Q99
Ok, Rinnegan Madara for SS+ it is, the vote's 4 to 2.
We don't know Madara's potential yet. Maybe a few chapters from now he'll bust open a new can of worms by saying something like: "Hashirama would still defeat me."
Frankly put too much can change at this point, and it's not like it's a smart idea to go back from an SS+ to a SS hierarchy. Have him and Hashirama in the same tier for now.
Originally posted by Astner
Why make it a poll?
Well, it's always worked that way in deciding uncertain matters.
We don't know Madara's potential yet. Maybe a few chapters from now he'll bust open a new can of worms by saying something like: "Hashirama would still defeat me."Frankly put too much can change at this point, and it's not like it's a smart idea to go back from an SS+ to a SS hierarchy. Have him and Hashirama in the same tier for now.
Wouldn't that mean Hashirama would just be higher?
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Normal Madara and Hashirama are still on the same tier.
Current Madara has all the strengths of his EMS, Pain, and Hashirama. If he honestly says Hashirama could still beat him(and I don't think anyone believes Hashirama would still beat him at the moment), then we can always put him back in SS.
Hmm, now that I think about it, Tobi might go in SS+ as well. He has variety and power at least comparable to Current Madara. Not as much of it but a lot...
Then again, since it seems Tobi is planning to go all Juubi, maybe it's best to wait and see what it looks like before bumping him too. Naruto is also probably on his way to a powerup thanks to the Bijuu chakra from earlier.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Hmm, now that I think about it, Tobi might go in SS+ as well. He has variety and power at least comparable to Current Madara. Not as much of it but a lot...
Noteworthy, he doesn't have the power to use much of his versatility (the rinnegan powers) while focusing on controlling the biju.
And Naruto did blow through his destructive power.
Then again, since it seems Tobi is planning to go all Juubi, maybe it's best to wait and see what it looks like before bumping him too. Naruto is also probably on his way to a powerup thanks to the Bijuu chakra from earlier.
Well, if you're moving all of them... then it hardly seems like worth moving any of them in the first place.
No I don't mean to say I'm in favor of moving them now. I'm saying it looks like Naruto/Tobi will get another power up(Bijuu Chakra/Juubi), so I'm content leaving them where they are right now until then. Madara is the only SS+ for now. At least, that's how I see it. I just think it won't be too long until Naruto and Tobi get in there too(with any luck). 😛
