The Official Naruto series Thread

Well, that's a good point. Still though, I'm hard pressed to understand what's exactly "boring" about this chapter. It's not as exciting as the fight we left behind no doubt, but that doesn't automatically make the chapter itself a bore. There were tons of interesting points.

Madara and Hashirama's interactions were hilarious. Mads making excuses why he can't get the rock across the river, the fact that he's really quick to emotion, but also compassionate, which is frankly an odd trait that differs from every Uchiha we've ever seen with the exception of Obito, which perhaps explains why/how he was able to draw Obito into the fold a bit more than "Well, he just did" that we kind of got before.

Madara had 4 brothers? That was unexpected. Is that why he freaked so bad when he lost the last one? While that's not an action packed point it's quite interesting. As is the fact that Tobes and Hash had another brother as well.

Hash was a troll, is that where Mads learned it from?

Madara's original intent was to ally with his enemies, he was a funny, supportive, encouraging kid... Compared to how he is now. Makes one wonder what he really thinks about this ninja alliance business.

We now have a grasp on why Tobi's so f***ing hard. And since Tobi's the man, anything related to him is automatically not boring. 😎

Idk, the most "boring" portion of the chapter was a couple of pages about the pre-village Shinobi world.

But this chapter ultimately sets up everything we've ever read up to this point, I don't see how something to intricate to the plot could be considered boring, unless you're speaking from a perspective that considers the series as a whole a bore to begin with. *shrug*

Still don't think this chapter should've spent that much time on how bad Hashirama had it as a kid. I'd also like to agree with Aura's review that Senju bro wasn't necessary.

Those are both fair points. Though that might have been what Kishimoto figured would tie Hash and Mads together more.

Originally posted by marwash22
why do you think "necessary plot lines" can't be boring?

As for Bleach, it's been pretty boring as shit as well, though as of the last chapter it's picked up a bit.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Indeed.

As for Bleach, it's been pretty boring as shit as well, though as of the last chapter it's picked up a bit.

Seriously? Ichigo "getting back to basics" and having his dad tell him something we all knew months ago, if not years ago, was Bleach "picking up a bit"?

You... you think I'm a woman?

LOL! In all seriousness I know you are not of course. But for the sake of the joke I'm taking you for your avatar.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
People disliked the Kabuto bullshit too.

I disagree. I was begging for more of it. But then I was dreading the whole Izanami garbage so maybe that colored my perspective.

Originally posted by jinzin
LOL! In all seriousness I know you are not of course. But for the sake of the joke I'm taking you for your avatar.

at least that's what Nem told me.

😂

It's true, I don't even feel it when he's inside.

Though that's mostly because you need a microscope to see his schlong.

editing sonofabitch.

Gatcha

Oops

Originally posted by Q99
We really need a flashback explaining how it got so bad. Preferably during this flashback.

I agree, we do, and I never said otherwise. What I'm taking an issue with is how it is done. Why break up the flow of a fight that nearly everyone has wanted to see? Why not start from the beginning, and reveal events in their chronological order, from Hashirama's first meeting with Madara, to their major battles, and finally to the purpose and legacy of the village and its shinobi.
It makes little sense for Hashirama to tell Sasuke about a short segment of his final encounter with Madara, and then jump back in time to his first meeting with Madara, especially when he states that he should have started with the Uchiha & the Senju. The only reason why I think he would do that is because he wants to show how bad Madara was at the end, in order for Sasuke to truly grasp just how far Madara had fallen, but that may be giving Kishi too much credit.

Originally posted by jinzin
Again, we need to know where these characters came from to grasp a better understanding of why it's tragic that their relationship fell apart, how it fell apart, and what Hashirama pulled away from it to answer Sasuke's question.

I don't presume to know how the story will go overall but if Sasuke changes his viewpoint because of what the first is telling him... well... we kind of need to know why.

I'm not taking an issue with function of the flashback itself. I'm taking an issue with how Kishi chose to bring it in, and how most of the chapter was used to tell us that war was an arduous time, something we learned all the way back in the Kakashi Gaiden. The only thing that changed was the severity. Children were taking part.

I don't think Hashirama will completely change Sasuke's outlook. If he does, well then, Sasuke and Naruto will not really have to fight will they? Otherwise, Sasuke would have to be mind-controlled or become a Juubi Jinchuurikii or some laem shit like that.

DP is correct. Even though I like the flashback, Kishi's choice to start with the battle was horribly dumb. Even if it were meant to be a contrast to show "how far they've come" I think that would have been much better done in chronological order.

I mean wouldn't the whole Bijuu bomb making it to the other shore be more meaningful if we knew the context before hand? We know it afterwards sure but there is less weight to it.

Originally posted by jinzin
Well, that's a good point. Still though, I'm hard pressed to understand what's exactly "boring" about this chapter. It's not as exciting as the fight we left behind no doubt, but that doesn't automatically make the chapter itself a bore. There were tons of interesting points.

Madara and Hashirama's interactions were hilarious. Mads making excuses why he can't get the rock across the river, the fact that he's really quick to emotion, but also compassionate, which is frankly an odd trait that differs from every Uchiha we've ever seen with the exception of Obito, which perhaps explains why/how he was able to draw Obito into the fold a bit more than "Well, he just did" that we kind of got before.

Madara had 4 brothers? That was unexpected. Is that why he freaked so bad when he lost the last one? While that's not an action packed point it's quite interesting. As is the fact that Tobes and Hash had another brother as well.

Hash was a troll, is that where Mads learned it from?

Madara's original intent was to ally with his enemies, he was a funny, supportive, encouraging kid... Compared to how he is now. Makes one wonder what he really thinks about this ninja alliance business.

We now have a grasp on why Tobi's so f***ing hard. And since Tobi's the man, anything related to him is automatically not boring. 😎

Idk, the most "boring" portion of the chapter was a couple of pages about the pre-village Shinobi world.

But this chapter ultimately sets up everything we've ever read up to this point, I don't see how something to intricate to the plot could be considered boring, unless you're speaking from a perspective that considers the series as a whole a bore to begin with. *shrug*

And this, my friends, is why the last chapter was far more interesting than you are giving it credit for. So much stuff was revealed to us in that last chapter, alone. It is like a landslide of information compared to the slow-assed paced chapters we were having.

Come-on...a whole chapter where we prepare an attack? WTF, brah?

Originally posted by AuraAngel
DP is correct.

Dude, enough with that "DP" shit. uhuh

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dp

No one uses it the way you use it. Yes, that's what she said.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I hate how Kishi does that. How he keeps on recycling those same two ****ing characters to draw some shitty, hamfisted parallel between the NaruSasu buttsex situation, and whatever other shitty broken friendship Kishi wants to drive down our throats. Not even necessarily a broken friendship, just a homoerotic bond between two guys in general.

This.

Ok, in my game, Fu the Jinchuuriki has been a major character, so I had to make some stats for her.

Does this seem reasonable to you lot?

Fu Stats:
Ninjutsu- 4.5
Taijutsu- 4
Genjutsu- 3
Intelligence- 3.5
Strength- 3
Speed- 4.5
Stamina- 5
Hand Seals- 3.5
Total: 31

Ninjutsu and Stamina high because... well, she's a jinchuuriki. Speed and taijutsu because one of the things we saw her do was a high-speed taijutsu attack.

No 5s except for stamina due to her being the third youngest jinchuuriki (though older and more experienced than Gaara than a few years- I pegged her as about 3~ years older), and probably not a deep thinker. Currently able to control 3 tails to an extent, starting to learn to handle the four.

Originally posted by Q99
Ok, in my game, Fu the Jinchuuriki has been a major character, so I had to make some stats for her.

Does this seem reasonable to you lot?

Fu Stats:
Ninjutsu- 4.5
Taijutsu- 4
Genjutsu- 3
Intelligence- 3.5
Strength- 3
Speed- 4.5
Stamina- 5
Hand Seals- 3.5
Total: 31

Ninjutsu and Stamina high because... well, she's a jinchuuriki. Speed and taijutsu because one of the things we saw her do was a high-speed taijutsu attack.

No 5s except for stamina due to her being the third youngest jinchuuriki (though older and more experienced than Gaara than a few years- I pegged her as about 3~ years older), and probably not a deep thinker. Currently able to control 3 tails to an extent, starting to learn to handle the four.

Dude, Fu is a monster of a fighter in Taijutsu because she was able to keep up with B.

Here is how I would rate Fu:

Ninjutsu- 3.5 (she has one tech...pretty much...)
Taijutsu- 5 (easily)
Genjutsu- 3 (I agree, here. It's a safe bet as most jonin are 3 or more).
Intelligence- 3 (nothing remarkable seen about Fu's intelligence)
Strength- 5 (this is a jinchuriki...an experienced one).
Speed- 5 (easily 5)
Stamina- 5
Hand Seals- 2 (nothing says Fu has any handseal ability).
Total: 31.5

Also, here is how I would rate current Naruto:

Ninjutsu- 5
Taijutsu- 5
Genjutsu- 2
Intelligence- 3.5
Strength- 5
Speed- 5
Stamina- 5
Hand Seals- 2
Total: 32.5