The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by marwash22
Because you tell me about it. I thought we were friends.

can i get the KMC discount?

Looking over the service offerings, I think that is a bad idea.

Mixed feelings on this chapter.

Perfect chapter, glad Naruto finally found its way and

Spoiler:
killed off Tobi, after the reveal there was no point in having that character around anymore

Kakashi did oddly well against someone who was fighting Bee, Naruto, Gai, and Kakashi himself simultaneously. Oh, and Obito actually physically overpowered Naruto at one point, if you remember.

Well, he did get recovered while Obito has been fighting for quite a while and over his head already. He was barely keeping himself alive during his fight against the team.

He was fighting him and two people that are considerably more powerful than Kakashi.

Kakashi should not be anywhere in the same ballpark as Obito.

He cannot use the lone ability that was making him hang against those two AND he's tired. Do I think that makes up for Kakashi besting him? Not really, I think Obito fighting like an idiot does that.

The narrative leaves no room for doubt little man.

You can come up with fan justifications and shit all you desire, but the comparison to their childhood Kumite makes it clear that this is not a case of a disadvantaged and weakened opponent being lent a killing blow. It is a case of Kakashi simply still being better than Obito is.

Somehow.

Again, what defense does Obito has other than his space warp? I'm not even sure why people would even consider Obito to be stronger than Kakashi in the first place barring that ability, it was the only reason he was putting up a fight against the team.

He physically overpowered one of the strongest characters in the series, he had enough base speed to go toe to toe with Minato and Kyuubi Mode Naruto, he could solo curb armies with his artificial Mokuton powers and shit, also, he sort of has the mother****ing Rinnegan, so I am not exactly sure how Lightning Release attacks would even work on him.

Well, I hope you've finally grasped just how good Kakashi is.

Not to mention he once stopped Suigetsu's sword with just his arm. Obito should be way above Kakashi.

Also as Aura said the copout intro was lame.

This fight was dumb and is even more confirmation that Obito forgot his Rinnegan.

Though it appears that Madara might be able to force Obito to use Rinne Tensei at least that's my impression from the ending. But on the bright side there wasn't any Team 7 drama and fake smiling.

To the haters of Obito losing to Kakashi.

Kakashi is a speedster. Kakashi is one of the best all-around ninja in the series. That has always been the case. I would say his biggest weakness is his strength level but even that is not really bad.

He's a genius, he's very fast, he's got high levels of ninjutsu, he has genjutsu down, knows quite a bit about hand seals, and has high levels of chakra.

The issue is he is not #1 at any of those. But he's a really awesome all-around ninja.

And the reason he beat Obito is Obito has not shown to be nearly as adept at using the Rinnigan as people like Nagato and Madara.

From what I understand, both of them had experience with the Rinnigan but Obito didn't?

Lastly, Obit's "ace" is his speed and intangibility. He lost his most of his ace because he couldn't leave: he was already in the pocket dimension. So he had to fight straight up. It was a speed and taijutsu fight and Kakashi is still better at that.

Also, they both were low on chakra, iirc. So Obito is not going to pull out some amazing ninjutsu with the rinnigan any time soon.

Yeah, but Kakashi also failed against a Pain body and Itachi. What kind of ****ed up hierarchy is it if he can beat the boss of Akatsuki but not his followers?

Sawyer's review ends in a horrible comparison.

Oh yeah and the fight sucked. Just sayin.

Which review? The only ones I read are those of yours and missARTs. Speaking of which, have you done one for the last chapter, you ass?

Yep. Both are up.

Sawyer is a video reviewer that Neph and I watch. He doesn't like Obito, at all, but made a poor comparison in his review at the end.

well regardless of what that review really says, the fight sure was odd and annoying to put it mildly. granted as some you pointed out, Obito should be dead tired from everything he's done up until this point, while Kakashi managed to recover a bit during that time, but still. however, I think the main reason why Obito lost this fight is because he did the stupid thing of going toe-to-toe with Kakashi rather than rely on his sharingan or rinnegan. if he had enough chakra to use Kamui on himself even after having two large holes put in him, then surely beforehand he could have done some big jutsu to take Kakashi down.

Cool. Will read them now.

Oh okay. What was the comparison?