The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I guess I get what you are trying to say.

Ultimately though, there is no difference in Sasuke's "redeemability" between him attempting to kill someone, and actually killing someone.

We already know he's ruthless and merciless, so it's not a question of him stopping himself.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When does he use it twice in a few seconds? It was more like a minute or two.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

He had it with him until the end, so I'd think it was a battle accessory that was a part of Susanoo, and hence could be handed down. After all, it isn't a physical item anyway.

^ it's happening again guys.

*tsk tsk*

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Originally posted by Kento
Eh. Kakashi should've just warped Sasuke away. Wonder if it'll have the weapons Itachi's had..even though it really shouldn't.

It's not like Madara can't just reappear instantly to save him. lol But this is Sasuke he could be blind and out of chakra completely so that he's near death and he'd probably still try to take them all out.

Oh, i'm sure he'll try... just he won't succeed.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ it's happening again guys.

*tsk tsk*

Originally posted by King Kandy
It doesn't even matter... even before his mangekyo died, it didn't look like the real susanoo could totally manifest itself.

Oh, i'm sure he'll try... just he won't succeed.

Next chapter is going to be a boring one I bet. Sasuke can't fight anymore, and Naruto isn't going to let anybody get killed. So it'll all be talking trying to convince Sasuke he's an idiot.

Sasuke is the biggest moron in the world. I mean "they're all laughing without realizing the sacrifice it took to laugh"! Who the hell is he kidding.

I want Mizukage to show up and fight him more, already! What's taking her so damn long?!

what is she up to? i dont remember what the other kages decided to do besides raikage.

also with danzo gone is kakashi the defacto hokage until tsunade wakes up?

She went with Ao after Danzo to find him. Since Danzo is dead, she'll be running into Sasuke instead.

I'm guessing the Mist stopped going after Danzo when they found Ao..or they'd be there way before Danzo's death.

Not even sure there is a Hokage at the moment with Danzo's death. He was just acting Hokage to begin with, and nobody knows of his death or his 'demotion' at the Kage Summit except the people who were there, along with Kakashi, Naruto, and Yamato. Kakashi wouldn't be offical or even semi-official at all.

Raikage "appointed" Kakashi as the internationally recognized hokage. Not that that counts for anything whatsoever legality-wise.

Where are Karin's boobs?

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My thoughts on the chapter:

I am greatly looking forward to what happens next. I'm looking forward to Naruto a lot lately. It almost feels like it was back in the day when I first started reading it.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I guess I get what you are trying to say.

Ultimately though, there is no difference in Sasuke's "redeemability" between him attempting to kill someone, and actually killing someone.

We already know he's ruthless and merciless, so it's not a question of him stopping himself.

I understand what you're saying.

There's NO difference between trying to kill someone but failing because someone swipes the body out of your hand at the last second, and actually killing them...from a psychological perspective.

In a court of law, it's called mens rea: he had 100% intent to kill. There's not difference between killing and not killing as he had 100% intent and almost succeeded.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When does he use it twice in a few seconds? It was more like a minute or two.

How do you know?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He had it with him until the end, so I'd think it was a battle accessory that was a part of Susanoo, and hence could be handed down. After all, it isn't a physical item anyway.

Well, it is a physical item as he stabbed the very real Oro with it. Not only that, it was tangible enough for Oro. to want to search for it. I would say that it's not necessarily an eye technique but more of an add on that's stored somewhere else, similar to a summon.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Where are Karin's boobs?

😐

I was wondering that, myself. It's possible that the "energy" from the healing blocked our view. Not that I really needed to see it, but...that's pretty...uh...perverted that she has bite marks all over her chest. 😆

Originally posted by NemeBro
Where are Karin's boobs?

😐

Originally posted by dadudemon

I understand what you're saying.

There's NO difference between trying to kill someone but failing because someone swipes the body out of your hand at the last second, and actually killing them...from a psychological perspective.

In a court of law, it's called mens rea: he had 100% intent to kill. There's not difference between killing and not killing as he had 100% intent and almost succeeded.

Yeah, exactly. In my eyes, whether he kills Sakura or not, there's no change in him.
He still meant to kill, and would her have killed her, if it wasn't for Naruto and Kakashi meddling with his plans 313.

Kento has a point though, I have to look at it from the perspective of Naruto.

Originally posted by dadudemon
How do you know?

They have enough time to converse for a bit. Not to mention, Choji gets up, notices his dad, weeps for a bit, and so on. There was at least a gap of 30 seconds to one minute. It wasn't in 'quick succession'. It still is an improvement for Kakashi though.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, it is a physical item as he stabbed the very real Oro with it. Not only that, it was tangible enough for Oro. to want to search for it. I would say that it's not necessarily an eye technique but more of an add on that's stored somewhere else, similar to a summon.

I was going more along the lines of Susano'o. It's classified as a spiritual warrior iirc and yet it can hurt others. It still isn't a physical thing though.
Besides, Zetsu himself states that the Totsuka sword is spiritual, with no real physical form. The mirror would also be the same no?
Also, doesn't someone state that Oro could never find it because it wasn't physical?

Well yes, I don't consider it a technique as much as a battle accessory, but when Itachi died, he still had the sword & shield with him i.e. they were still his; key word here being "had."

If Itachi did indeed pass them on to Sasuke, all that stops him from using them is his knowledge of them.

Though as for now, it looks like his Susano'o still uses arrows.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I was wondering that, myself. It's possible that the "energy" from the healing blocked our view. Not that I really needed to see it, but...that's pretty...uh...perverted that she has bite marks all over her chest. 😆

Dude, someone obviously mistook her intentions and just bit them off 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Ultimately it's all down to, Naruto can't come and find Sakura dead and not loose control. If he saw Sakura dead it would be 9-tails unleashed all over again without Minato plot device to stop it.

With his recent conversation with Pein, he probably would have a little more control no? Still wouldn't stop him from beating the shit out of Sasuke, but he still wouldn't kill him.

I got your earlier explanation though.

Originally posted by Kento
Okay maybe it wasn't really just second but it's about the same time between Pain using the nail, and then saving Chouji from a rocket as Sasuke using the Susanoo arrows, and Sasuke grabbing Sakura. And Kakashi had already used up over half his chakra before attempting the first Kamui against Pain, and we know at full power he can use Kamui twice a day.

Ahh, fair enough, I get it. CIS then? Or maybe he was afraid he'd hit Sakura. Besides, he doesn't really want to kill Sasuke, he still thinks, like you said, that there is hope for him.

Or we could even argue that he had to use two Kamui's for Susano'o's arrows. Or a larger-than-normal one. The possibilities are endless 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
True I guess. But Sasuke's already got plot backing him, does he really need a truly perfect defense on top of that? The Susanoo weapons and shield he has now works fine.

He still has to worry about Susano'o's drawback though. Not that it matters much to Sasuke anyway, since he more stamina and life force than Naruto atm.

Originally posted by King Kandy
It doesn't even matter... even before his mangekyo died, it didn't look like the real susanoo could totally manifest itself.

Oh, i'm sure he'll try... just he won't succeed.

It completely manifests for that short time interval.
He just couldn't sustain it. No doubts there as to why he couldn't.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
With his recent conversation with Pein, he probably would have a little more control no? Still wouldn't stop him from beating the shit out of Sasuke, but he still wouldn't kill him.

I got your earlier explanation though.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ahh, fair enough, I get it. CIS then? Or maybe he was afraid he'd hit Sakura. Besides, he doesn't really want to kill Sasuke, he still thinks, like you said, that there is hope for him.

Or we could even argue that he had to use two Kamui's for Susano'o's arrows. Or a larger-than-normal one. The possibilities are endless 😛.

Wouldn't have been any bigger than blocking Deidara's explosion would it?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He still has to worry about Susano'o's drawback though. Not that it matters much to Sasuke anyway, since he more stamina and life force than Naruto atm.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Where are Karin's boobs?

😐

Originally posted by dadudemon
My thoughts on the chapter:

I am greatly looking forward to what happens next. I'm looking forward to Naruto a lot lately. It almost feels like it was back in the day when I first started reading it.

Originally posted by Kento
Kyuubi isn't really something he can control though. Not when he gets all emotional. And Sasuke does that to him in general. Adding his second love's death it wouldn't really matter. Then Kakashi would be screwed along with Sasuke.

He controlled it just fine when he was in the presence of Nagato. Only Kyuubi Sage Mode appeared, not the tails.

Originally posted by Kento
Well taking his arm off won't kill him. lol There was still that possibility. We know he's got good enough control.

Wouldn't have been any bigger than blocking Deidara's explosion would it?

Like I said earlier, CIS, or PIS.

Originally posted by Kento
I still say Karin heals chakra. >.> That's the only way I'm able to accept Sasuke's nearly never ending chakra except when plot calls for it.

I thought Susano'o drained your actual life force, and not your chakra?

Originally posted by Kento
Obviously Sakura just wanted to grope her nothing to do with healing. That's why they aren't seen.

The real reason Sakura became a medic nin. She seems to do... a lot of opening girl's shirts, doesn't she?

Ever wonder if Ino helps her 'practice' sometimes?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I thought Susano'o drained your actual life force, and not your chakra?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He controlled it just fine when he was in the presence of Nagato. Only Kyuubi Sage Mode appeared, not the tails.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I thought Susano'o drained your actual life force, and not your chakra?

Originally posted by Kento
After loosing himself once, and then having Minato talk to him, and time to think. Pain didn't do anything to push him over the edge after he regained control. The fact Kyuubi emerged though still shows his lack of control over it.

Naruto states that he really wanted to kill Nagato, and you can see him trembling.

Yes, but previously, whenever Kyuubi emerged, there would always be a cloak of chakra, or tails. The fact that those signs weren't there shows that he now has more control over it.

Originally posted by Kento
Aren't both pretty much tied together anyway? Along with a persons stamina.

Dunno. Susano'o is said to drain a person's life force, so it must be separate.