The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by NemeBro1,600 pages

Nah.

Stupid.

Needs to get over himself.

Does anyone here but me remember when Sasuke was all about trusting in his new faggy team, and then seemingly out of nowhere he just turns into some madman?

Why is that? What caused it?

Certainly was not Itachi's death, considering his whole ghey nakama outlook was gained after he died, so... Why?

During the Raikage fight, he just went insane and evulz for no reason. 😬

3rd choice? Easy, Naruto is going to possess Sasuke's body. Then he gets to save Sasuke and persuade Sakura and Karin into some "Sexual Healing"

he's not acting rationally though, cause he never thought any of this through...at all, just acting out of control.

only thing that can help him is a good beatdown, a straight jacket, and some strong meds from tsunade's stash.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
chapter wasn't bad, but it seems like it could be a clever bait and switch from kishi that makes us think team 7 could be repaired in the near future when it will most likely never be (making sauce final villain)
As much as I'd like that to happen, I don't really see it happening. That would make Naruto a failure, and he never fails......... except when it comes to Sasuke......

He has no reason to be insane if Itachi's death and the revelation of who Itachi was did not.

Being crazy isn't always caused by a specific instance... in fact it's usually not.

yeah, it takes a bunch of stuff to make people snap.

sasuke's main problem is that he doesn't know anything: all his life was a lie and not under is control, and the only thing he thought was real (itachi's brotherly love) was tainted by "konoha". he had a few people up in his ear making him do things for their own perposes, and he's realizing that he was being used. he kinda doesn't care cause he wants to kill everyone so...there you have it.

now he's just a spiteful lunatic on a rampage, i say kill him.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
now he's just a spiteful lunatic on a rampage, i say kill him.
😆 As much as I dislike Sasuke I never really wanted him killed off before but lately that's becoming less true.

He's going to have to die. I mean, he killed the Hokage. If you're able to talk your way out of that, then there's a serious problem with the ninja world's legal system.

He killed the ex-acting Hokage, who was stripped of that title anyways because he was 'evil', and manipulating people. So it's not like anybody is really going to care. After all they were trying to catch him, and Ao probably would've tried to kill him anyway.

He was "stripped of that title" by Raikage, who had absolutely no authority whatsoever to actually govern who has the title. Legally that meant nothing, and Sauske still killed the official head of state. Even then, Sasuke would have still killed a high-ranking member of the Konoha government... So no, that is not something he should be getting away with. Especially when Sasuke is much more corrupt and evil than Danzo was.

NemeBro
Certainly was not Itachi's death, considering his whole ghey nakama outlook was gained after he died, so... Why?

During the Raikage fight, he just went insane and evulz for no reason

It built up. He's had this desire for vengeance his *entire* life. It was yanked out from under him after Itachi's death.

Remember before the Raikage fight, on the way to Konoha before Pain's attack, he already had said his Konohacidal plan.

He was getting a little nakamay with his new team, but his need for an outlet for vengeance was greater still. Raikage wasn't an original target, but he was in his way? F him, he's going down too! Gaara? Get out of my way or I'll burn you! Or in other words, these people kept *just getting in his way!*.

And that's about when he went over the edge. He had made the call earlier, to do any amount of destruction in the Uchiha name, and there's pretty much no rational reason for that, just pure rage, so his means likewise became less rational.

Was his actions smart? No, they were *irrational*. Crazy. Crazy isn't smart. He's not lost the capacity to think smart, he's simply lost a good chunk of his rationality and is acting purely on emotion. And his emotions are nuts.

Originally posted by King Kandy
He's going to have to die. I mean, he killed the Hokage. If you're able to talk your way out of that, then there's a serious problem with the ninja world's legal system.

There's a million problems with the ninja world's legal system 🙂

And the only people that really matter, The Kages and Mifune, acknowledge Kakashi as Hokage before Danzo died. And before anybody really finds out that cares that Sasuke killed the Hokage, they'll find out first what Danzo did, and how he was stripped of the rank by the other Kage's and Mifune (who seems to have some sorta superiority over Kage's anyway). So when they find out Danzo is dead, by Sasuke, he'll not be acting Hokage. He'll be the guy who manipulated people to get the position, and nobody will care in the grand scheme of things. Because Danzo was a villain.

You can argue your ridiculous point that Sasuke shouldn't be considered guilty of killing Danzo but the fact remains that yes he did, yes he has attacked and tried to kill (or actually did kill) high ranking officials of many countries, and no he should not get off the hook for that as much as you feel "but Danzo was teh EV1L!"

what did danzou even do that was really evil? i mean it seemed like everything he did he did for the sake of konoha, and in naruto ninja are supposed to be sneaky and manipulative and shadowy... he just did what he thought was the best action.

and to an extent he was right. if all the uchiha had been destroyed like hed wanted them to be then konoha wouldnt be in such deep shit... in fact if danzou got to do everything he wanted from the beggining konoha would have been better off...

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
what did danzou even do that was really evil? i mean it seemed like everything he did he did for the sake of konoha, and in naruto ninja are supposed to be sneaky and manipulative and shadowy... he just did what he thought was the best action.

and to an extent he was right. if all the uchiha had been destroyed like hed wanted them to be then konoha wouldnt be in such deep shit... in fact if danzou got to do everything he wanted from the beggining konoha would have been better off...

Let see, making deals with Oro, ordering the death of Anko if she finds Kabuto just to keep that a secret, manipulating people he probably didn't even have to just to get what he wanted. Ends justify the means when it comes to the Uchiha. Who knows what Sai has seen, and doesn't trust him because of it.
Originally posted by King Kandy
You can argue your ridiculous point that Sasuke shouldn't be considered guilty of killing Danzo but the fact remains that yes he did, yes he has attacked and tried to kill (or actually did kill) high ranking officials of many countries, and no he should not get off the hook for that as much as you feel "but Danzo was teh EV1L!"
Attacking Kage summit yes, guilty. Killing Danzo, was something that was going to happen either way. Be it fighting Sasuke or possibly one or all of the other Kages since he wouldn't be captured quietly. So being blamed for killing Danzo, except by Root, is pointless. It's not like very many of the minor characters trusts him at all. And all the main characters know most of what happened and never trusted him.

Originally posted by Kento
Let see, making deals with Oro, ordering the death of Anko if she finds Kabuto just to keep that a secret, manipulating people he probably didn't even have to just to get what he wanted. Ends justify the means when it comes to the Uchiha. Who knows what Sai has seen, and doesn't trust him because of it.

Gasp, who would have imagined that a ninja might be engaging in assassination and espionage! That's totally not their job or anything.

Originally posted by Kento
Attacking Kage summit yes, guilty. Killing Danzo, was something that was going to happen either way. Be it fighting Sasuke or possibly one or all of the other Kages since he wouldn't be captured quietly. So being blamed for killing Danzo, except by Root, is pointless. It's not like very many of the minor characters trusts him at all. And all the main characters know most of what happened and never trusted him.

"He just killed a bunch of people"
"Ah, no one liked them anyhow"

Not an excuse I can really see holding up in court.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Gasp, who would have imagined that a ninja might be engaging in assassination and espionage! That's totally not their job or anything.

"He just killed a bunch of people"
"Ah, no one liked them anyhow"

Not an excuse I can really see holding up in court.

Yes, because working with a criminal, killing a clan, and taking their eyes to get extreme amount of power is so very good. And ordering the death of Anko, who is totally innocent in everything, and is one of his own since he was Hokage at the time, just because Kabuto may know he worked with Oro is really in the best interest of anything but Danzo. And Sai not trusting him, and Danzo forcing all of Root to keep his secret is really in the best interest of Konoha. The only thing remotely probable that was done for the best of Konoha was kill the Uchiha. And even then I seriously doubt he did it for the best of Konoha when he implanted all their eyes on his arm. Or making deals behind Saru's back with the Rain Village. Such great Konoha good there.

It's not like I'm arguing Sasuke can be redeemed. Just killing Danzo isn't the reason for it. Attacking the Summit yes, trying to kill Karin yes, trying to kill Sakura yes. But killing Danzo is no different than killing Oro. Or killing Hanzo.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Gasp, who would have imagined that a ninja might be engaging in assassination and espionage! That's totally not their job or anything.

"He just killed a bunch of people"
"Ah, no one liked them anyhow"

Not an excuse I can really see holding up in court.

Dude Gaara killed a bunch of people for fun...and he's the bloody Kazekage.

Pain got to be leader of his village by offing the previous one, and that was Zabuza's plan too.

If you can convince enough people to go along with it, it can get a pass.

Kento
The Kages and Mifune, acknowledge Kakashi as Hokage before Danzo died. And before anybody really finds out that cares that Sasuke killed the Hokage, they'll find out first what Danzo did, and how he was stripped of the rank by the other Kage's and Mifune (who seems to have some sorta superiority over Kage's anyway).

He's a significant neutral party of a country strong enough to maintain it's neutrality by force, who the kage will listen to for that reason.

The Kages couldn't truly strip Danzo of rank... but they could officially not acknowledge it, which is enough to make Danzo's ground as acting Hokage very shaky, since it ment he couldn't fill one of the major roles of the job, international relations.

The acknowledgement of others is a big part of politics in the ninja world. You need the village's jonins to acknowledge you, because otherwise they could take you out and put someone else in charge. You need the other Kage to, because otherwise you can't form alliances and your country will replace you. And so on.