The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Demonic Phoenix1,600 pages
Originally posted by dadudemon
But the whole thing about 'surpassing' though, kind of more than proves my point about Nartuo.

What was your point again?

If it's him being a genius, I've already agreed to that.
If it's him being a genius that appears once in a generation, I'm with you on that, but I don't remember it being stated in the manga.
If it's him surpassing the 4th, I say hell no. He needs to get whooped by Raikage to truly begin trying to surpass the 4th 313

In all honesty, I think he'll completely surpass the 4th once he finishes this training arc.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Naruto had knowledge of Pain, perfected Sage Mode, had an uber super duper final move in the Rasenshuriken, and had the pwnzors book at his disposal. Hardly PIS when it was built up and planned for for many many chapters. estahuh

Even with so many pwnzors at his disposal, he still fell to God Realm. He only survived because God Realm tried to use Talk no Jutsu on Naruto.
Why would Kishi make a villain use the favoured technique of the protagonist, on the protagonist himself? PIS biscuits

Originally posted by dadudemon
Planning a strategy out, many move in advance, is not improvising, that's planning.

Eh, remember the hole that Naruto made, and how he used it against Temari? Seems like improvisation if you ask me, even if it was planned.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought you were a Sasuke fan? I might be confusing you for someone else?

I am, but I don't have any problems with dissing him...I'll admit, I do it jokingly though.
As for the whole power-ups deal, I've never said that he doesn't get power-ups. Rather, people thinking that he never trains to control them is what I have problems with.

As for the Sharingan, I don't have to be a Sasuke hater to say that it has been featured extensively in Naruto...only the most ridiculous Sharingan fanboi would say that it hasn't been featured enough.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Has anyone else been said to have surpassed the 4th and Jiraiaya? 313

Sasuke has been said to have the potential to surpass Itachi; I wonder why Naruto has never been said to surpass Itachi [csm]131[csm]. Does that somehow mean that he'll never be a better shinobi than Itachi?
With these sort of statements, it all seems to come down to genetics and technique choices if you ask me.

After all, people repeatedly say that a generation always surpasses the previous one. If we took it one step further, it'd be younger shinobi surpassing elder ones. However, it'd be random crapola if Chouji were said to surpass Hiashi Hyuuga, and Neji was said to surpass Chouji's father.

Originally posted by dadudemon
But, Naruto is all about Naruto being a dumb ninja genius.

Even dumb ninja geniuses can pull stuff out of their ass.
The fart against Kiba is all I need to prove my point. 😛

Originally posted by dadudemon
Poor Kento, gettin' his clan bad-mouthed on the internetz.

To my recollection, he isn't that fond of Neji.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, Gaara and Naruto are just pussies compared to Bee. Raikage or not, he was destined to kick ass... it is known in Naruto as the "Will of B".

I'll agree to that my friend.

Though he kicks so much more ass thanks to Raikage.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Poor Kento, gettin' his clan bad-mouthed on the internetz.
😒 They'll be sorry when Hiashi shows up and solos Bee and Raikage 😂
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
To my recollection, he isn't that fond of Neji.
I don't actually like the Hyuuga clan..I just like the Byakugan itself and the gentle fist style. Except Hinata of course but she's Hinata....

Originally posted by Kento
I don't actually like the Hyuuga clan..I just like the Byakugan itself and the gentle fist style. Except Hinata of course but she's Hinata....

I thought you liked Hiashi as well?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I thought you liked Hiashi as well?
Nah, not really. I mean it's not like I dislike him like I kinda do Neji but he's not really a character I care to much about, I just want him to get screen time to show the power of Gentle Fist since he's the strongest.

Originally posted by Kento
Nah, not really. I mean it's not like I dislike him like I kinda do Neji but he's not really a character I care to much about, I just want him to get screen time to show the power of Gentle Fist since he's the strongest.

I thought he said Neji had surpassed him.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Kudos to Bee though. He faced similar problems that Gaara and Naruto faced, and apparently took it a lot better than they did at first.
Raikage's to thank for that though 313
i must be blind cause this chapter enlightened me to the jinchuuriki's being children/family of the kage 😐

i was like

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i must be blind cause this chapter enlightened me to the jinchuuriki's being children/family of the kage 😐

Yeah, I know. When I heard that I was like "wow, that's completely true... how did I not notice the pattern there?"

Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought he said Neji had surpassed him.
Don't remember this. When Neji can make a Kaiten that is more than a foot away from him then he'll probably have surpassed him...

And even the databook stats has Neji still quite below Hiashi.

it' probably means that his kaiten is stronger than any hyuuga's at a similar age, plus factoring neji learned it on his lonesome when he's not even supposed to know that move puts him in the genius class.

hinata can't do any of that stuff and she's main house, tutored by hiashi and now neji

Sorta like how Naruto is referred to as 'surpassing' Jiraiya, Minato, and Kakashi in creating the Rasenshuriken.

Showing the ability to do stuff greater than their predecessors is really what they're talking about.

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Also on the gentle fist, Hinata's lion fists seem different from any other Hyuuga move we've seen. Maybe it's some variation? Chakra-projection into shapes for attack.

Perhaps that's the kind of stuff the branch houses normally use instead of the main family's secret techniques.

It would been cool to see what Lion Fist move could do. But all it was against Pain was a huge waste of chakra. But it is nice to see that Hinata is actually learning moves...

Even I don't remember if he still has been said to have surpassed Hiashi at anything, unlike Naruto who has surpassed his predecessors in Rasengan Mastery.

His Byakugan is said to be more powerful than anyone else's though, and he has the most potential for growth. Byakugan prowess is the only field in which I can say Neji is better than Hiashi.

Originally posted by Kento
It would been cool to see what Lion Fist move could do. But all it was against Pain was a huge waste of chakra. But it is nice to see that Hinata is actually learning moves...

Well getting him to back up and give Naruto some breathing room was impressive enough, it's not like she had much reason to worry about her chakra reserves. She was a chunin attacking an S-class!

Hanabi shall become the strongest Hyuuga ever

Originally posted by Q99
Well getting him to back up and give Naruto some breathing room was impressive enough, it's not like she had much reason to worry about her chakra reserves. She was a chunin attacking an S-class!
😆 I didn't mean that. I just mean it was kind of pointless to show a new move, without it actually showing anything. It would've been a much better move to reserve for Hinata her own fight.

Originally posted by Kento
Hanabi shall become the strongest Hyuuga ever

You forgot to add 'once Neji dies'

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Originally posted by Kento
Hanabi shall become the strongest Hyuuga ever 😆 I didn't mean that. I just mean it was kind of pointless to show a new move, without it actually showing anything. It would've been a much better move to reserve for Hinata her own fight.

No, it had a point. It was Kishi trying to force people to think Hinata sucked so he could try and cram in NaruSaku.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You forgot to add 'once Neji dies'

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😗 That's cause he's just some lowly branch member. He'll never surpass a true heir to the Hyuuga clan.

Hmm though shouldn't Hanabi technically have been branded with the Branch member seal?...

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, it had a point. It was Kishi trying to force people to think Hinata sucked so he could try and cram in NaruSaku.
😆 Shouldn't the point be that Hinata totally loves Naruto more than Sakura so HinaNaru gets crammed in when Naruto gets over his love of Sasuke by killing him?

Originally posted by Kento

😆 Shouldn't the point be that Hinata totally loves Naruto more than Sakura so HinaNaru gets crammed in when Naruto gets over his love of Sasuke by killing him?

Hm, then brings him to Kabuto to be re-animated and made loyal using Impure World Resurrection... their pure love is saved!

Originally posted by Q99
Hm, then brings him to Kabuto to be re-animated and made loyal using Impure World Resurrection... their pure love is saved!
SasuHinaNaru? To much Uchiha in that threesome.