The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Demonic Phoenix1,600 pages

Originally posted by Kento
😗 That's cause he's just some lowly branch member. He'll never surpass a true heir to the Hyuuga clan.

Hmm though shouldn't Hanabi technically have been branded with the Branch member seal?...
😆 Shouldn't the point be that Hinata totally loves Naruto more than Sakura so HinaNaru gets crammed in when Naruto gets over his love of Sasuke by killing him?

He is a true heir to the Hyuuga clan.

Maybe she was never branded since Hinata was such a disappointment early on.

I thought he's going to kill Sasuke because he loves him?

Originally posted by Q99
Hm, then brings him to Kabuto to be re-animated and made loyal using Impure World Resurrection... their pure love is saved!

Hey nao, don't drag Kabuto into this. He'd keep Sasuke for himself.

Naruto will instead come up with some uber Sage jutsu to resurrect Sasuke, after all, their love has already created a separate dimension where they can hold conversations.

Originally posted by Kento
SasuHinaNaru? To much Uchiha in that threesome.

Naruto's too good (read: gay) for Hinata.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He is a true heir to the Hyuuga clan.

Maybe she was never branded since Hinata was such a disappointment early on.

I thought he's going to kill Sasuke because he loves him?

Never.

But wouldn't that mean Hinata should be branded? Hizashi got a bad deal if Hanabi and Hinata can both be main branch.

He'll realize it's just lust for Sasuke because of Kyuubi/Sharingan relationship.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto's too good (read: gay) for Hinata.
Hmm, good point.

Hinata was originally supposed to be the heir hence the lack, and Hanabe has that role now... both seem to still be main despite all this.

I'm guessing Hizashi may have been designated a leader of a branch house instead of part of the main one because of worries of succession between two twin brothers. Or maybe there's a number limit on how many can be main house, or simply that when someone is born into the main house the Hyuuga born next will become branch to be their protector (ala Neji). He got screwed over however you slice it.

We know that the main house isn't just the heir to the clan and their successors, this pic clearly shows there's others.

Internal Japanese family politics can be complicated and have fairly arcane rules.

Guess nobody will ever know how Main and Branch are decided in the Hyuuga.

Originally posted by Q99
Sorta like how Naruto is referred to as 'surpassing' Jiraiya, Minato, and Kakashi in creating the Rasenshuriken.

Showing the ability to do stuff greater than their predecessors is really what they're talking about.

That'd be true if several conditions were not already met:

1. Naruto developed a move that surpassed Kakshi.
2. Naruto defeated a dude that Kakshi could not.
3. Kakshi himself said that Naruto was now stronger than he was...which was before his Sage Mastery and Toad Taijutsu training.

In other words, when they say that Naruto suprassed them, they actually meant it.

If they meant "surpassed my ability to use shape and X chakra manipulation" they would have said so.

Originally posted by Kento
Never.

But wouldn't that mean Hinata should be branded? Hizashi got a bad deal if Hanabi and Hinata can both be main branch.

He'll realize it's just lust for Sasuke because of Kyuubi/Sharingan relationship.

Deny it all you want, but you still know it's true.

I dunno. Maybe Hiashi never even thought of Hinata as his daughter afterward, in the sense that he thought she was worthless as a Hyuuga and didn't belong in either of the families?
What Q99 said could be true. I know the "arcane rules" bit is.

Once he learns to control the Kyuubi's hatred, he'll know that it's love for Sasuke, not lust.

Once again Naruto being the Kyuubis host plays a large roll in his progression

Originally posted by iceman24567
Once again Naruto being the Kyuubis host plays a large roll in his progression

It's no different from Neji and his Byakugan, or Sakura and her excellent chakra control, or Kakashi and his Sharingan, or B and his beast, the Hachibi.

They are just tools that said Shinobi have learned to harness effectively.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It's no different from Neji and his Byakugan, or Sakura and her excellent chakra control, or Kakashi and his Sharingan, or B and his beast, the Hachibi.

They are just tools that said Shinobi have learned to harness effectively.

Nah. Take Sakura out of the mix, man. She may have a natural affinity for chakra control, but it's a skill she worked hard at.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Nah. Take Sakura out of the mix, man. She may have a natural affinity for chakra control, but it's a skill she worked hard at.

She always had excellent chakra control. She just learned how to harness it properly as time passed.

Originally posted by Kento
Guess nobody will ever know how Main and Branch are decided in the Hyuuga.
it went by time of birth.

hiashi was neji's father's (h-sumthin) older twin brother by three minutes or something like that, that made him main house and neji's dad branch.

the origin of the bs caste system they have is unexplained iirc

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it went by time of birth.

hiashi was neji's father's (h-sumthin) older twin brother by three minutes or something like that, that made him main house and neji's dad branch.

the origin of the bs caste system they have is unexplained iirc

But that doesn't really explain why the same didn't happen to Hanabi and Hinata.

i guess since hinata isn't considered powerful by hiashi, before hinabi reached three years old he made her the heir to the family. not sure if main family can be demoted or just kinda allowed to do whatever, she's kuranei's problem i guess

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
She always had excellent chakra control. She just learned how to harness it properly as time passed.

1. You need to prove that she always had good chakra control.
2. You just said that she learned how to harness it.

So, you agree with me and your premise is incorrect.

Or what happened with Hiashi and Hizashi was just a stupid occurrence thought up by Kishi to make Neji a Branch member. (most likely explanation)

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It doesn't make sense if time of birth was what decided who went into the Main Family and who went into the Branch Family.

Neji is a Branch Family member by birth (i.e. because his father was a Branch Member, he is as well).
If it were decided by the time of birth, Neji should never have become a Branch member, since he was the only and oldest child of Hizashi. He should have become a Main Family member instead.

Hinata is Main Family member, by birth as well.

Looking at it that way, the Branch Family seems to be a completely different line from the Main Family.
So one way Hiashi and Hizashi ended up in different families, is if a person from the Main family humped another person from the Branch Family and the product was Hiashi and Hizashi.

Meh.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
[b]Looking at it that way, the Branch Family seems to be a completely different line from the Main Family.
So one way Hiashi and Hizashi ended up in different families, is if a person from the Main family humped another person from the Branch Family and the product was Hiashi and Hizashi..
😆 That just might be the best reason. Moreso if the Hyuuga's really do keep it in the family.

Maybe Hanabi was branch family, but they took her out of it when they realized the main branch needed an heir and Hinata was sucking big time.

Originally posted by Kento
😆 That just might be the best reason. Moreso if the Hyuuga's really do keep it in the family.

Yeah.

We're looking too much into this. It's doubtful Kishimoto will explore the Hyuuga clan in depth anyway. Maybe in a spin-off where he makes a Hyuuga the main character 313

Originally posted by dadudemon
1. You need to prove that she always had good chakra control.
2. You just said that she learned how to harness it.

So, you agree with me and your premise is incorrect.

1.
a) Kakashi stated that she was better than Sasuke when it came to using chakra effectively
b) Ebisu said she never wasted chakra unlike Naruto or Sasuke (when trying to train Naruto)
c) I believe she was said to be a genjutsu type from the start (takes good chakra control for genjutsu affinity)

2. I assumed you were saying that she gained good chakra control by training with Tsunade, when it's shown that she's had good chakra control from the beginning.

Otherwise, yeah, she learned how to use it for her strength, in other words, harness it, which is what I was saying from the beginning.

Just to add something:

Apparently, Kakashi trained to get Kamui. It's possible other MS users could use Kamui, since it says "one."

http://www.urakai.com/ndb3/240-241.png

That's a Third Databook scan I believe.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah.

We're looking too much into this. It's doubtful Kishimoto will explore the Hyuuga clan in depth anyway. Maybe in a spin-off where he makes a Hyuuga the main character 313

Yea, but I'm bored so it's what I do. 😆