The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by dadudemon1,600 pages

Hey, found something interesting.

Anyone can use Susanoo...you just have to have the MS in both eyes.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/464/17/

So, Kakashi can technically get Susanoo, too. He just has to get another Sharingan eye. I don't know if he has to retrain the other eye to get MS in it, but he could conceivably do it.

Then he would WTF pwn Sasuke's Susanoo by showing Sasuke how it's done. 313

Find it strange that he said 'Double Mangekyo' like its a common thing to have single one.

..Even if 1/3 Mangekyo users have one, 2/3 if Madara ends up with the one shown... mhmm

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, found something interesting.

Anyone can use Susanoo...you just have to have the MS in both eyes.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/464/17/

So, Kakashi can technically get Susanoo, too. He just has to get another Sharingan eye. I don't know if he has to retrain the other eye to get MS in it, but he could conceivably do it.

Then he would WTF pwn Sasuke's Susanoo by showing Sasuke how it's done. 313

Having two Sharingans would be detrimental to Kakashi though, since using one can already signifigantly drain him, and he would have to keep both eyes covered when not fighting to preserve chakra.

On that, if Kakashi did get two would the right Mangekyo have a different pattern to the left? Same with Danzo's.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Torune? 😐

It's not as if the hiraishin technique is some kind of overtly advanced or unbeatable tech... it's something that someone with great speed could replicate. I don't see why someone with speed enhancing techs such as gates or the mirrors wouldn't be able to beat Madara... plus half the battle is just knowing the limitation of the phasing tech.

Did Torune even have a chance to beat Madara alone? 😐 Only when Madara had almost teleported Torune away did he land a hit which did not even cause Madara any sort of damage in the long run.

If someone uses the Gates, all Madara would have to do is to make himself intangible, and let his opponent wear himself out. That's all. The limitation only comes into effect if Madara attacks.
No one ever said it's unbeatable, but it is broken.

Also, seriously, not even the Raikage could mimic Minato's movements with the FTG.
Minato's speed with the Shunshin, sure, Raikage probably reaches that level of speed.

Originally posted by Kento
Eh, lost his life getting rid of a pet. Just sealing Kyuubi couldn't have been what drove Madara away. 😛

This is true. I wonder if Minato created the barrier or if it'll be another broken Tobirama jutsu. In Minato's hands...anything is broken. 😆

Naruto's never gonna learn FTG. He's not awesome enough. But really who would teach him? 😆 Besides it'll be useless against Susanoo. I'm going to laugh if Naruto overpowers Susanoo with a Rasengan...of any kind. Even more so if Sasuke does get the Yata shield though.

Lost his life getting rid of a pet he couldn't get rid of otherwise. Sandaime's there remember. 😛

I hope it's Tobirama's jutsu.
True that.

Pfft, even Rasenshuriken is too weak to do any damage to Susano'o. 😛
Plus Sasuke will have the ability to cancel any jutsu just by looking at it. 313

Originally posted by BloodRain
Find it strange that he said 'Double Mangekyo' like its a common thing to have single one.

..Even if 1/3 Mangekyo users have one, 2/3 if Madara ends up with the one shown... mhmm

Double Mangekyo refers to two Mangekyo techniques, one from each eye.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Lost his life getting rid of a pet he couldn't get rid of otherwise. Sandaime's there remember. 😛

I hope it's Tobirama's jutsu.
True that.

Pfft, even Rasenshuriken is too weak to do any damage to Susano'o. 😛
Plus Sasuke will have the ability to cancel any jutsu just by looking at it. 313

Sure he could've, he's Minato. He just chose to do it that way and not any other way. Pft What's an old Saru gonna do to an Uchiha? 😆

You know, if it is his jutsu, his death at the hands of a few ninja is going to become even worse with his broken ability to create water from nothing, and warp attacks (and possible anything) away from him, and edo tensei creation.

😠 Don't joke about that Kishimoto might read it then we'll have Sasuke warping reality, and being God of the Naruto Universe. 😆

Originally posted by NemeBro
Having two Sharingans would be detrimental to Kakashi though, since using one can already signifigantly drain him, and he would have to keep both eyes covered when not fighting to preserve chakra.

I thought about that. All he has to do is steal Itachi's eyes from Sasuke. 🙂

Originally posted by Kento
Sure he could've, he's Minato. He just chose to do it that way and not any other way. Pft What's an old Saru gonna do to an Uchiha? 😆

You know, if it is his jutsu, his death at the hands of a few ninja is going to become even worse with his broken ability to create water from nothing, and warp attacks (and possible anything) away from him, and edo tensei creation.

😠 Don't joke about that Kishimoto might read it then we'll have Sasuke warping reality, and being God of the Naruto Universe. 😆

You mean he had no other way to get rid of Madara's pet. 😛
The same thing Hashirama is claimed to have done to an Uchiha, but only easier. 313

Even Kisame can create Water from 'nothing'. He just spits it out. I don't see how that is broken. Though Tobirama could do that Dragon Missile move with just one hand-seal, when it normally required more than 40 seals I think.
Edo Tensei requires a human sacrifice. I don't think he had any human sacrifices in that battle.
Also, in the anime/movie, he was a master with a weapon called Sword of the Thunder God.

Uchihas can already warp reality...Izanagi. Sasuke will get a proper Izanagi that does not use up his eyes because he now has Itachi's eyes 313
He'd make a far better God of the Naruto Universe than Naruto ever would. 😛

Originally posted by Kento

You know, if it is his jutsu, his death at the hands of a few ninja is going to become even worse with his broken ability to create water from nothing, and warp attacks (and possible anything) away from him, and edo tensei creation.

They were supposed to be an incredibly elite unit, and 20 of them. I can see that many strong ninja being too much even for the team he had with him.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Double Mangekyo refers to two Mangekyo techniques, one from each eye.

Yup, that's the case. Even if Kakashi had two eyes, Kamui is not one of the three MS jutsu so no go.

Yeah, the Third Databook says that you need to awaken Tsukuyomi & Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o.
Makes sense, as T&A are the siblings of Susano'o in Shinto myth.

So yeah, Kakashi should not be able to use it.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, the Third Databook says that you need to awaken Tsukuyomi & Amaterasu to be able to use Susano'o.
Makes sense, as T&A are the siblings of Susano'o in Shinto myth.

So yeah, Kakashi should not be able to use it.


Also that finally confirms that Tsukuyomi is the MS genjutsu Sasuke's been using.

There might be another 'third jutsu' that Kakashi could unlock if he had both of Obito's eyes up at MS level, just not Susano'o.

Originally posted by Q99
There might be another 'third jutsu' that Kakashi could unlock if he had both of Obito's eyes up at MS level, just not Susano'o.

Given that we don't even know if there would be a second jutsu, I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Given that we don't even know if there would be a second jutsu, I think you're getting ahead of yourself.

Yea, speculating, but 'one special jutsu per eye that you have to figure out how to unlock, plus a higher one that takes two' makes sense to me with what we've seen.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, speculating, but 'one special jutsu per eye that you have to figure out how to unlock, plus a higher one that takes two' makes sense to me with what we've seen.

From what we've seen, all MS produce Susanoo/Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi except Kakashi's.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Also that finally confirms that Tsukuyomi is the MS genjutsu Sasuke's been using.

More or less. At the very least, he has access to the jutsu.

Originally posted by Q99
Yea, speculating, but 'one special jutsu per eye that you have to figure out how to unlock, plus a higher one that takes two' makes sense to me with what we've seen.

We don't even know if each eye can give you just one uber jutsu. Sasuke can apparently use Tsukuyomi from his right eye, Amaterasu from his left, and he can manipulate the flames of Amaterasu for his Enton techs with his right eye. I think he needs both eyes to completely shut down Amaterasu, and both eyes for Susano'o.

Originally posted by King Kandy
From what we've seen, all MS produce Susanoo/Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi except Kakashi's.

The brothers both have that jutsu, but Madara's has demonstrated neither power and I suspect is tied to his time-space jutsu.

Originally posted by Q99
The brothers both have that jutsu, but Madara's has demonstrated neither power and I suspect is tied to his time-space jutsu.

Madara can project Tsukuyomi on the moon, so he clearly has it.