The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, found something interesting.

Anyone can use Susanoo...you just have to have the MS in both eyes.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/464/17/

So, Kakashi can technically get Susanoo, too. He just has to get another Sharingan eye. I don't know if he has to retrain the other eye to get MS in it, but he could conceivably do it.

Then he would WTF pwn Sasuke's Susanoo by showing Sasuke how it's done. 313

Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought about that. All he has to do is steal Itachi's eyes from Sasuke. 🙂

Although really since they are already implanted in Sasuke (However the **** that works) then would he not just be able to steal the EMS' from him?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doesn't unlocking the Eternal Mangekyo require you to be brothers?

Although really since they are already implanted in Sasuke (However the **** that works) then would he not just be able to steal the EMS' from him?

Hm... I wonder what would happen if one family had four siblings with sharingan, all four off their best friends, then two took the eyes from the other two to get Eternals, then one of those two gave their eyes to the last one.

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It would make some Legendary Mangekyo Sharingan that instead of never making you blind and not draining your chakra it makes your chakra grow and your eyesight progressively better the longer you have it activated? 😐

Originally posted by Q99
Hm... I wonder what would happen if one family had four siblings with sharingan, all four off their best friends, then two took the eyes from the other two to get Eternals, then one of those two gave their eyes to the last one.

Likely nothing. All that would happen is that one dude has had three sets of eyes in his life-time.

Originally posted by NemeBro
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It would make some Legendary Mangekyo Sharingan that instead of never making you blind and not draining your chakra it makes your chakra grow and your eyesight progressively better the longer you have it activated? 😐

Were you thinking of Broly when you typed this? Coz I did when I read it. 😐

It would suck if he had germaphobia

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Were you thinking of Broly when you typed this? Coz I did when I read it. 😐

Originally posted by NemeBro
Doesn't unlocking the Eternal Mangekyo require you to be brothers?

Yup. Which is why he'd steal Sasuke's: Sasuke would already have unlocked it.

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Originally posted by NemeBro
Although really since they are already implanted in Sasuke (However the **** that works) then would he not just be able to steal the EMS' from him?

It was a joke, really, as Kishi would never allow that to happen no matter how hax Kakashi is.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You mean he had no other way to get rid of Madara's pet. 😛
The same thing Hashirama is claimed to have done to an Uchiha, but only easier. 313

Even Kisame can create Water from 'nothing'. He just spits it out. I don't see how that is broken. Though Tobirama could do that Dragon Missile move with just one hand-seal, when it normally required more than 40 seals I think.
Edo Tensei requires a human sacrifice. I don't think he had any human sacrifices in that battle.
Also, in the anime/movie, he was a master with a weapon called Sword of the Thunder God.

Uchihas can already warp reality...Izanagi. Sasuke will get a proper Izanagi that does not use up his eyes because he now has Itachi's eyes 313
He'd make a far better God of the Naruto Universe than Naruto ever would. 😛

Kisame's chakra at what 30% was compared to bijuu levels..so Kisame isn't a good person to use. 😆 ..If he could create something broken like Edo Tensei then imagine what other things he probably had though. He may be known as water jutsu specialist but he seems to be a bit more.

Yes, but that's just themselves. Sasuke's going to be able to warp anything in reality. Turn Naruto back into a baby, and make Kyuubi a little kitten. And Madara's warping will be useless when he gets turned into a rock. 😆
Better? Never.

Originally posted by Q99
They were supposed to be an incredibly elite unit, and 20 of them. I can see that many strong ninja being too much even for the team he had with him.

Originally posted by Kento
20 elite ninja really shouldn't be that bad to a Hokage. Not to mention a Hokage that was Senju, hailed as the strongest clan even above Uchiha.

Why didn't him and his team just fight and kill them? 😬

20 ninja is not that big of a threat, regardless of how 1337 they may be. Not to a Kage, let alone 2 Kage level ninja since Sarutobi was apparently at that time to become Hokage. Hell, Danzo was apparently his rival so he could possibly have been Kage level too. Really bugs me for some reason.

Maybe they were all Raikage.

If they're all or most full Jonins, then I think that's a very significant threat. Full jonin are almost always extremely badass.

I'm kinda working on the assumption that this force is basically Cloud's "This is for hunting the Kage's personal group" force and stacked with strong ninja accordingly.

Originally posted by Kento
😛 Minato just wanted to give his son power that's why. Shodai probably didn't have to fight phasing Madara. 😗

Kisame's chakra at what 30% was compared to bijuu levels..so Kisame isn't a good person to use. 😆 ..If he could create something broken like Edo Tensei then imagine what other things he probably had though. He may be known as water jutsu specialist but he seems to be a bit more.

Yes, but that's just themselves. Sasuke's going to be able to warp anything in reality. Turn Naruto back into a baby, and make Kyuubi a little kitten. And Madara's warping will be useless when he gets turned into a rock. 😆
Better? Never. Eh. 20 elite ninja really shouldn't be that bad to a Hokage. Not to mention a Hokage that was Senju, hailed as the strongest clan even above Uchiha.

Minato was too scared to continue fighting Madara, so he instead passed the burden to his baby son. That's what happens when someone goes up against an Uchiha. 😛

Actually, Kisame at 30% was compared to Naruto with Kyuubi's chakra, but yeah. At 100%, he likely has the most chakra of anyone we've seen so far, Hachibi & Kyuubi aside. Still, chakra level means nothing if he is a good Suiton master.

Yeah, I'm beginning to think he was more powerful than Hashirama, when Hashirama wasn't using the Bijuus obviously. He can just touch the ground and know how many people are tracking him. 😐 What, is he using an Earth-Release jutsu, or the water in the ground?
Though to be fair, he was a Hokage, and they're all goody-goodies, so I don't know why he would use Edo Tensei, unless it was a major battle he knew he would not be able to win without ET.

Kyuubi & Naruto are already Sasuke's little b****es. He doesn't need reality-warping to pwn them 😛
Yeah, Madara cannot touch Sasuke. Not when Sasuke has the Juubi's eyes!
Yes he would. Instead of an average looking gay/incestual, small-dick, loudmouthed blondie, we'd get a good-looking incestual emo. 313 Sasuke would be far better.

Pfft, Senju are Uchiha dogs. Only the Sarutobi clan can be above the Uchiha. The first is a god, the next one is the coolest Naruto character ever, and the third can beat nearly anyone with his sexy jutsus.
On a more serious note, I thought they were equals?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Why didn't him and his team just fight and kill them? 😬

20 ninja is not that big of a threat, regardless of how 1337 they may be. Not to a Kage, let alone 2 Kage level ninja since Sarutobi was apparently at that time to become Hokage. Hell, Danzo was apparently his rival so he could possibly have been Kage level too. Really bugs me for some reason.

Exhaustion? Lack of a medic-nin?

The enemies were probably extremely strong as well. Bounty Hunters after all. Likely the ones that go after Missing-Nins and criminals in the Bingo Books.
They were able to surround the group, which shows they had the tactical advantage, and likely the environmental advantage as well.

what if tobi is the jinchuuriki of the 3-tails?

-was the mizukage before mai, and was at least an acquaintance of kisame's

-could control teh bijuu

-had some sort of facial scar on one eye (iirc it was the right one)

-similar hair style

probably not but what evs

(gotta say it so i can say "i told you so" 😄)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
what if tobi is the jinchuuriki of the 3-tails?

-was the mizukage before mai, and was at least an acquaintance of kisame's

-could control teh bijuu

-had some sort of facial scar on one eye (iirc it was the right one)

-similar hair style

probably not but what evs

(gotta say it so i can say "i told you so" 😄)

Umm...I'm not sure on this but doesn't Tobi need the power of the other 8 bijuus to balance the kyuubi? Meaning that he would kinda have to kill himself in order to extract his own bijuu (assuming he were the 3-tail container). Plus it would be kind of weird if he just stole Madara's eye w/o Shodai or anyone else noticing.

I have no idea how to explain what I just posted so this can all be moot.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Minato was too scared to continue fighting Madara, so he instead passed the burden to his baby son. That's what happens when someone goes up against an Uchiha. 😛

Yeah, I'm beginning to think he was more powerful than Hashirama, when Hashirama wasn't using the Bijuus obviously. He can just touch the ground and know how many people are tracking him. 😐 What, is he using an Earth-Release jutsu, or the water in the ground?
Though to be fair, he was a Hokage, and they're all goody-goodies, so I don't know why he would use Edo Tensei, unless it was a major battle he knew he would not be able to win without ET.

Pfft, Senju are Uchiha dogs. Only the Sarutobi clan can be above the Uchiha. The first is a god, the next one is the coolest Naruto character ever, and the third can beat nearly anyone with his sexy jutsus.
On a more serious note, I thought they were equals?

It's probable. Shodai probably only got the reputation because he has a special kekkai genkai, and could control the beast. But he's never been said to make any jutsu at all. Though he does have the Darkness Jutsu. Which is pretty cool. If Tobirama wasn't stronger he at least had a larger pool of moves to use. Can't be that goody-goody if he really did create the police force just to watch the Uchiha, and Shodai put them into a small area to contain them.

Don't forget one was named Sasuke. 😆 He has the name Sasuke and he was a Sarutobi. He should've made it to be Hokage with that.
Eh, Madara just can't admit somebody was better than him. lol

Considering he made a jutsu to raise the dead as well as the Uchiha MP thing, Tobirama strikes me as likely the most ruthless of the Kage.

Originally posted by Kento
Pft the only person that can scare Minato is Kushina. 😆

It's probable. Shodai probably only got the reputation because he has a special kekkai genkai, and could control the beast. But he's never been said to make any jutsu at all. Though he does have the Darkness Jutsu. Which is pretty cool. If Tobirama wasn't stronger he at least had a larger pool of moves to use. Can't be that goody-goody if he really did create the police force just to watch the Uchiha, and Shodai put them into a small area to contain them.

Don't forget one was named Sasuke. 😆 He has the name Sasuke and he was a Sarutobi. He should've made it to be Hokage with that.
Eh, Madara just can't admit somebody was better than him. lol

Obviously that's not true as Madara can scare Minato as well. 313

Yeah, Bringer of Darkness is pretty cool. Kind of like a watered down version of Tousen's bankai ability. Oh wait, you don't read Bleach. >__>
Well, if you think about it, at first, we thought that Tobirama was only good at Water Jutsu. Now we've found out that he was the first user of ET, and was good with S/T jutsu. So it's possible that Hashirama knew other stuff as well. Still, Tobirama's way cooler.

Oh yeah, Sasuke Sarutobi. He was better than any Kage uhuh

Spoiler:
He was also secretly the third Hokage for a while. Hiruzen was too much of a pansy at first, so Sasuke showed him how it's done 😛

Originally posted by Q99
Considering he made a jutsu to raise the dead as well as the Uchiha MP thing, Tobirama strikes me as likely the most ruthless of the Kage.

Most ruthless of the Kages? Nahh, that honor would likely go to Gaara's father, who did not hesitate to kill his wife in order to seal Shukaku within his son, and later ordered hits on said son. Granted, Gaara was mentally unstable at the time, but still.

Most ruthless of the Hokages? Maybe. Hiruzen was very altruistic, of course.
Minato was more ruthless than the Sandaime when it came to enemies though, but otherwise, he seemed altruistic as well.

It's likely that even Hashirama was not as great as most of Konoha make him out to be.
Founding Father status aside, he was the leader of one of the strongest clans. Such a position in a time of warfare demands a certain amount of ruthlessness methinks.
If we take Danzou into the mix, then he'd likely get the title of 'Most ruthless Kage/Hokage'.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Most ruthless of the Kages? Nahh, that honor would likely go to Gaara's father, who did not hesitate to kill his wife in order to seal Shukaku within his son, and later ordered hits on said son. Granted, Gaara was mentally unstable at the time, but still.

Most ruthless of the Hokages? Maybe. Hiruzen was very altruistic, of course.
Minato was more ruthless than the Sandaime when it came to enemies though, but otherwise, he seemed altruistic as well.

Ah yea, Hokages is what I meant 🙂

I'm sure there's plenty of ruthless kage. Yagura and Madara have got to be up there.

It's likely that even Hashirama was not as great as most of Konoha make him out to be.
Founding Father status aside, he was the leader of one of the strongest clans. Such a position in a time of warfare demands a certain amount of ruthlessness methinks.

Quite. The main thing going for him is he got tired of the fighting and seemed to honestly try and keep things peaceful between the villages, but we only know a tiny amount of his career honestly and there was doubtless many bloody bits and probably some harsh decisions.

If we take Danzou into the mix, then he'd likely get the title of 'Most ruthless Kage/Hokage'.

Definitely up there with the Hokages. Though I think Yagura still beats him 🙂