The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by NemeBro
Actually I would say Naruto has had more chakra all along than damn near anyone else in the series. 😐 I can't actually recall Naruto ever running out of chakra. Being a host is the shit.

His normal Uzumaki chakra has run out on several occasions. Remember back when he was training with Jiraiya the first time? He exhausted himself just by fighting with clones over an extended period, and at that point it was necessary for him to draw upon the fox to summon Gamabunta at all.

Naruto was also low on gas at the end of the Gaara fight too.

Kyuubi doesn't really run out, but his own stuff does.

Originally posted by NemeBro

Edit: Also, Tsunade has some of the best chakra control in the series, is the reason for her prowess as a medic and her super strength. So if what you say is true, then even with her amount of chakra and the control, is not in the top of the series.

IMO the people with the strongest chakras other than hosts would be guys like Kisame, A, and probably Madara if his chakra itself is the reason for his apparent immortality.

Point. Forgot about Tsunade's perfect chakra control.

Nagato likely has tailed beast level chakras as well.

EDIT: Well, maybe not tailed-beast levels, but it's probably extremely high.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Point. Forgot about Tsunade's perfect chakra control.

Nagato likely has tailed beast level chakras as well.

EDIT: Well, maybe not tailed-beast levels, but it's probably extremely high.

One thing I wonder about him is if he doesn't have the chakra production of all his bodies. So six fairly high chakras + his own exceptionally high chakra adding to them.

Or if it really is all coming from him, that's a heck of a lot. Half-a-dozen summons, gravity blasts, chakra lasers, all at the same time?

Hmm... then again, he does have Preta Path absorbing chakra and perhaps making up the difference...

Originally posted by Q99
One thing I wonder about him is if he doesn't have the chakra production of all his bodies. So six fairly high chakras + his own exceptionally high chakra adding to them.

Or if it really is all coming from him, that's a heck of a lot. Half-a-dozen summons, gravity blasts, chakra lasers, all at the same time?

Hmm... then again, he does have Preta Path absorbing chakra and perhaps making up the difference...

They all have Chakra receivers and the Rinn'egan, and I don't think corpses would keep their chakra.
Also, once the chakra receivers were removed, they completely cease to function, so it's highly probable that his own chakra is what fuels them.

When I stated tailed-beast levels, I was thinking of Hachibi/Kyuubi levels. But I'm guessing that Nagato likely has as much chakra as one of the lower numbered tailed beasts.

Possibly. Though I doubt Preta Path absorbed enough chakra to fuel half of what Nagato did.

Did you all know that Raikage's fighting style is apparently a mixture of Taijutsu and Ninjutsu called Nintaijutsu?

Yeah.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix

Possibly. Though I doubt Preta Path absorbed enough chakra to fuel half of what Nagato did.

If he was grabbing people and draining them off-screen, maybe. Preta was fighting a fair number of enemies.

He got a fair amount off Jiraiya in their fight.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Did you all know that Raikage's fighting style is apparently a mixture of Taijutsu and Ninjutsu called Nintaijutsu?

Yeah.

Originally posted by Q99
She grabbed him by the tongue and smashed him in the face while they were jumping around and fighting.

Oro didn't have his arms but was otherwise healthy so he should be as dodgey as ever, and she was sucker-stabbed by him several times first (including through the heart) as well as fighting Kabuto and getting a bout of her blood-weakness.

Yes! Naruto should ditch Sakura, Hinata, and Sasuke and go after Anko.

I suspect she's one of Leaf's best trackers considering she was on the 'track Kabuto/Akatsuki base' team and was given control of the forest of death test.

According to the conference, most of the villages went through disarmament after the last world war, not just Leaf.

There's an official stat on the various villages' might broken down into pop, military, and economy, rated 1-5 in each. Cloud and Stone both have a mil of 4, Leaf and Mist 3, and Sand 2. Though, notably, the Sand/Sound invasion which may've knocked them both down a little. The stats are from shortly before the Pain attack.

Aside from military, there's also population, where Leaf has a 5 to Stone's 4 and Cloud's 3 (2 for both Mist and Sand), so they can replace losses the easiest and probably fight an extended war better than the others too.

Economy, everyone has a 2 except for Cloud, who has 5. So if you total them all together, Cloud's in first (12 total) due to having the most money, Leaf and Stone are not far behind (10 total), and Mist and Sand both lag behind (7 and 6 respectively).

😆 Naaaah somebody cool needs to go after Anko not Naruto.

They were suppose to dismantle. We know for a fact Raikage didn't. He even tried to kidnap Hinata just to get more power. And possible why Kushina was kidnapped though I doubt that was the current Raikage. Konoha is the only one we know of that did it. The rest of the Kage's were nothing like Saru.

Eh, stats don't mean much really...

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Itachi protected Konoha from the wrath of the Uchiha & Madara, and Sasuke will help kill Madara. Fugaku wins. 😛

TenTen is worth Ten Hinatas. 313
Yeah, he likely would have taken advantage of her somehow 😆, not sexually though of course. Hiashi and Neji would try to kick his ass if he did. Not that they would succeed, coz he's too cool.

Exactly, she'll be the master of those two and would order them around in bed.

He was a bat-shit insane psychopath. Far worse than Sasuke is currently. Also, Joker is too awesome to be compared to Gaara.
Pfft, Hebi Sasuke's fight against Deidara was far better than any fight Gaara's ever had. Plus, Deidara only needed C1 to beat Gaara.
Hebi Sasuke >>>> Naruto > Taka Sasuke. You know it's true.

Pft TenTen is like 4th best of kids. Temari, Hinata, and Hanabi are much better. 😄

Well Hiashi might....He is Main Branch Hyuuga after all. Asuma is cooler but...Byakugan > Sarutobi bloodline. lol

😄 Maybe. Just maybe could work.

😆 I just realized though...Gaara cuts himself.
Pft Deidara needed to cheat to beat Gaara. Just like Sasuke needed to cheat with elemental advantage to beat Deidara. Sasuke wouldn't beat Gara at all. 😛

Never will admit Sasuke is better than anybody!

Originally posted by Kento
Oro's one mode of attack was ever more straight forward than Tsunade's taijutsu is also.

That tongue is pretttty darn flexible 🙂 And he could use both it and a mouth-held sword separately.

I love how Orochimaru's so badass that he's more of a threat without arms than most ninja are with them.

They were suppose to dismantle. We know for a fact Raikage didn't. He even tried to kidnap Hinata just to get more power. And possible why Kushina was kidnapped though I doubt that was the current Raikage. Konoha is the only one we know of that did it. The rest of the Kage's were nothing like Saru.

Considering the grumblings of Sand weakening that set off the Sand/Sound invasion, I'd bet they did too, plus Mist went from Yagura's reign to Mei's, which probably did involve some downscaling and reorganizing, to trim out the psychos if nothing else.

I think all of the rest would've had to, Cloud's richer than the others and can afford a larger peacetime force, while the others don't have wartime level funding.

Pft Deidara needed to cheat to beat Gaara. Just like Sasuke needed to cheat with elemental advantage to beat Deidara. Sasuke wouldn't beat Gara at all. 😛

Well, cleverness is a legitimate tactic in ninja fights.

Minato is the greatest too bad naruto ddnt inherit his ninjutsu ()
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raikage = superman + hulk. this also equals win

hopefully C fixes that goddamn arm, raikage certainly didn't give a crap about it but i do, like...how's he supposed to raiger bomb a ninja?

choke slam doesn't cut it for me

Originally posted by Kento
Naruto protected Konoha from Pain, and Gaara, and will be the one to marry Sasuke to make Sasuke Hokage, while being the one who will really kill Madara. Minato wins.

Pft TenTen is like 4th best of kids. Temari, Hinata, and Hanabi are much better.

Well Hiashi might....He is Main Branch Hyuuga after all. Asuma is cooler but...Byakugan > Sarutobi bloodline. lol

Pft Deidara needed to cheat to beat Gaara. Just like Sasuke needed to cheat with elemental advantage to beat Deidara. Sasuke wouldn't beat Gara at all.

Never will admit Sasuke is better than anybody!

Sasuke got rid of Orochimaru, the guy who killed Sarutobi and nearly destroyed Konoha, and he got rid of Deidara, the guy who captured Gaara. Itachi gave Naruto the power of his love. Fugaku wins. 😛
Also, Madara can only be killed by Sasuke Uchiha. After all, Sasuke is Madara #2, and everyone knows that new versions surpass the previous versions. 😛

TenTen has a more awesome name than any of those 3. 😛

No no. Byakugan and the Hyuuga cannot compete with super sexy jutsus, awesome coolness, Sandaime Hokage, and the name Sasuke. 313

Deidara outsmarted Gaara, and Deidara in turn was outsmarted by Sasuke. 😛
Besides, C4 Garuda would likely kill Gaara anyway (unless he completely enclosed himself before it went off), or anyone who cannot see chakra for that matter, barring perhaps the Raikage.
Also, Hebi Sasuke alone would totally pwn every version of Gaara together. Kirin would one-shot Shukaku itself. vin

You know it's da troof!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
raikage = superman + hulk. this also equals win

hopefully C fixes that goddamn arm, raikage certainly didn't give a crap about it but i do, like...how's he supposed to raiger bomb a ninja?

choke slam doesn't cut it for me

Hell no. He's the Hulk + Thor.

Raikage only needs one arm to pwn shit. flirt (I believe I'm borrowing that from KK)
Also, Lariat.

Originally posted by Q99
That tongue is pretttty darn flexible And he could use both it and a mouth-held sword separately.

I love how Orochimaru's so badass that he's more of a threat without arms than most ninja are with them.

Considering the grumblings of Sand weakening that set off the Sand/Sound invasion, I'd bet they did too, plus Mist went from Yagura's reign to Mei's, which probably did involve some downscaling and reorganizing, to trim out the psychos if nothing else.

I think all of the rest would've had to, Cloud's richer than the others and can afford a larger peacetime force, while the others don't have wartime level funding.

Well, cleverness is a legitimate tactic in ninja fights.

lol Oro's just that awesome. To bad when he fights a Uchiha he looses the ability to actually do anything.

Well the Sand was always a weak nation though. And Gaara's father wasn't exactly the...smartest person.

I was kidding...Except the part where Gaara > Sasuke. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Sasuke got rid of Orochimaru, the guy who killed Sarutobi and nearly destroyed Konoha, and he got rid of Deidara, the guy who captured Gaara. Itachi gave Naruto the power of his love. Fugaku wins. 😛
Also, Madara can only be killed by Sasuke Uchiha. After all, Sasuke is Madara #2, and everyone knows that new versions surpass the previous versions.

TenTen has a more awesome name than any of those 3.

No no. Byakugan and the Hyuuga cannot compete with super sexy jutsus, awesome coolness, Sandaime Hokage, and the name Sasuke. 313

Deidara outsmarted Gaara, and Deidara in turn was outsmarted by Sasuke. 😛
Besides, C4 Garuda would likely kill Gaara anyway (unless he completely enclosed himself before it went off), or anyone who cannot see chakra for that matter, barring perhaps the Raikage.
Also, Hebi Sasuke alone would totally pwn every version of Gaara together. Kirin would one-shot Shukaku itself. vin

You know it's da troof!

I dunno Hanabi can match it in just first name. But having the last name Hyuuga just soars her above TenTen in name.

Nothing can match the Byakugan.....and by proxy Ao nor the Hyuuga can be matched.

😠 Deidara put in something Gaara couldn't see. Sasuke has super special hax eyes, and never outsmarted Deidara. Eh, the micro bombs could take out even Saru. Sasuke was just lucky he isn't normal Uchiha so his element wasn't fire. 😛 Sasuke's plot device powers was all that is. Pft Kirin can't beat something that blocks super hottter than sun fire!

🙁 Say it isn't so.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hell no. He's the Hulk + Thor.

Raikage only needs one arm to pwn shit. flirt (I believe I'm borrowing that from KK)
Also, Lariat.

The SPINNING LARIAT.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
raikage = superman + hulk. this also equals win

hopefully C fixes that goddamn arm, raikage certainly didn't give a crap about it but i do, like...how's he supposed to raiger bomb a ninja?

choke slam doesn't cut it for me

Originally posted by psycho gundam
raikage = superman + hulk. this also equals win

Well, except for the x-ray vision, heat vision, bullet proof/harder than steel body, getting power from yellow sun energy, losing power from Red Sun energy, kryptonite being his weakness, being able to lift millions of tons, fly, being black instead of white, and probably some other things.

Well, basically, he's nothing like superman. He's more like Thor except MUCH weaker and far less intelligent.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
hopefully C fixes that goddamn arm, raikage certainly didn't give a crap about it but i do, like...how's he supposed to raiger bomb a ninja?

choke slam doesn't cut it for me

Indeed. I didn't like that he had to lose part of his arm.

Thinking about the fighting styles of the Kage in a larger battle:
I see A very much going after the largest enemy threat on the fielding and then fighting/killing it, then going after the next one. Not entirely unlike Minato's, though probably more a 'headhunter' style.

Mei I'm thinking would take one area of the battlefield and fill it with boiling acidic cloud, taking out large numbers of enemies, and using the lava to deal with any more specific threats that survive, have a way to counter the boil release, or try to escape. Rather than aiming for specific individual enemies, she's a unit-killer, going after high level units.

Tsunade, command & control & healing, or go and personally smash big threats (especially summons, she's good with those), her choice.

Tsuchikage, at this point not really enough to tell. Probably travel with his body guard and smash enemies with his dust release for starters.

Gaara'd sand up one area of the battle, and use it to defend his allies and crush foes. He's got a fair amount of flexibility, he can either save valuable units in trouble or destroy large amounts of enemies.

Originally posted by Q99
Thinking about the fighting styles of the Kage in a larger battle:
I see A very much going after the largest enemy threat on the fielding and then fighting/killing it, then going after the next one. Not entirely unlike Minato's, though probably more a 'headhunter' style.

Agreed on A.
IMO, Minato would do what he usually does, which is to give his subordinates those special kunais of his to toss into the enemy ranks. With his FTG, he'd take out all the lesser foes. It'd be easier for him to focus on the weaker enemies first, taking them out, and then turning his attention to the generals/leaders, without any risk of interference from those weaker ninja.

Originally posted by Q99
Mei I'm thinking would take one area of the battlefield and fill it with boiling acidic cloud, taking out large numbers of enemies, and using the lava to deal with any more specific threats that survive, have a way to counter the boil release, or try to escape. Rather than aiming for specific individual enemies, she's a unit-killer, going after high level units.

Problem with her acid technique is that she can only use it when none from her side are around, unless she is the type to sacrifice her own ninjas. Personally, I don't think she's the type. Also, there's the risk that the Acid technique could blow all over the field and affect her own ninjas anyway. IMO, I don't see her using the acid technique in the open, not unless she tries to release a small amount, just enough to corrode one person.

Originally posted by Q99
Tsunade, command & control & healing, or go and personally smash big threats (especially summons, she's good with those), her choice.

Tsunade would be more of a support member, as she's a medic-nin. If there are other big-players on the field, like Jiraiya, and/or Orochimaru, she wouldn't be as involved as they are when it comes to combat. She'd still take out small pockets of ninja with those crater creating punches of hers, or one-shotting each ninja, and she's also trained herself to avoid attacks. Then there's her ability to remotely heal people via Katsuyu.

Originally posted by Q99
Gaara'd sand up one area of the battle, and use it to defend his allies and crush foes. He's got a fair amount of flexibility, he can either save valuable units in trouble or destroy large amounts of enemies.

With enough sand, he could likely take on small armies by himself. Personally, I see him starting a battle at the front, while gathering enough sand to fill a very large area, and trying to bury every enemy on the field. Some might escape or avoid, in which case, he would send in his forces to deal with the strays.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Imaging the possibilities of two arms though.

The SPINNING LARIAT.

SPINNING BIRD KICK!

He still has both his legs. biscuits

Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed. I didn't like that he had to lose part of his arm.

He has no one to blame but himself.

Also, dudes, if Raikage had both his arms, would he beat Killer Bee? vin

Originally posted by Kento
lol Oro's just that awesome. To bad when he fights a Uchiha he looses the ability to actually do anything.

Uchihas are just that awesome. Their eyes make everyone barring the Senju forget their jutsus, and Sasuke's eyes can cancel out jutsus, even those of the Senju. 😛

Originally posted by Kento
Saru killed himself, and nobody wanted Orochimaru gone. That demotes Sasuke. Deidara never attacked near Konoha, and Minato knew this so he never cared how Deidara did. He made Rasengan for Naruto to beat Kakuzu specifically though. Who fought and survived against Shodai. Surviving against Shodai > having to kil yourself to beat Sasuke..and failing. I have nothing for the Itachi thing lol. All Sasuke will do is provide the plot power that Madara won't phase through a Super Mega Hurricane Rasengan. Since everybody defeats themselves against Sasuke. Naruto will be he one who does all the real work, and show of his awesome skills that he'll learn from Bee. Who Minato knew would train Naruto because he's Minato. Minato wins..except when it comes to Itachi.

I dunno Hanabi can match it in just first name. But having the last name Hyuuga just soars her above TenTen in name.

Nothing can match the Byakugan.....and by proxy Ao nor the Hyuuga can be matched.

Deidara put in something Gaara couldn't see. Sasuke has super special hax eyes, and never outsmarted Deidara. Eh, the micro bombs could take out even Saru. Sasuke was just lucky he isn't normal Uchiha so his element wasn't fire. 😛 Sasuke's plot device powers was all that is. Pft Kirin can't beat something that blocks super hottter than sun fire!

Say it isn't so.

Saru was going to die anyway, Orochimaru is just that awesome. Tsunade wanted Orochimaru gone, and so did the rest of Konoha, as Orochimaru wanted to destroy Konoha. So Sasuke took out the guy who would destroy Konoha. That puts him on a near equivalent footing with Naruto, who took out the guy that actually destroyed Konoha.
Pfft, Kakashi finished off Kakuzu, not Naruto. Chidori/Raikiri was created by Kakashi and Sasuke is a better user of Chidori, so Sasuke could have easily finished off Kakuzu. vin
Naruto won't be able to touch Madara. He's just like his father, and Madara will scare the crap out of him. It'll be left to Sasuke to do all the work, and with his ossum eyes, he'll cancel Madara's phasing technique, and kill him with Kirin.
Since Sasuke and Naruto cancel each other out, Itachi is left, and Fugaku wins. 313

You mean having the last name Hyuuga just brings it down. Had she been Hanabi Uchiha, her name would be better than TenTen's name. Hanabi knows this, which is why she's secretly after Sasuke as well. vin

Byakugan is SMALL-TIEM. Sexy Jutsus > Byakugan. Awesome coolness > Byakugan. the name Sasuke > Byakugan. 😛

Well, he knows fire, so he would have learned lightning, had his element been fire. Kirin Lightning >> super hotter than sun fire. Also Sasuke Uchiha just felt glad to see Gaara again, so he didn't make his Amaterasu fire hotter than the sun as he didn't want to pwn him so quickly. 😛

If I did, I'd be a liar!