Originally posted by Demonic Phoenixme and a friend have a theory about this, we think that the 1-8 tails together equal one tail on the juubi, and the kyuubi equals the remaining 9, but this is pure speculation, it just makes sense to me though
8 tails is currently more powerful than the half-powered Kyuubi by virtue of feats, if that says anything.Also, I doubt the Kyuubi has more chakra than the total chakra capacity of the 1-8 Tailed beasts.
Originally posted by NemeBro
.......... Was it ever actually stated in the manga the Fox was the strongest of the Tailed Beasts? 😐For the life of me I cannot remember where it was said.
Well Jiraiya says its one of the strongest and has the most chakra.
Originally posted by menokokoro
me and a friend have a theory about this, we think that the 1-8 tails together equal one tail on the juubi, and the kyuubi equals the remaining 9, but this is pure speculation, it just makes sense to me though
Bullshit. I don't mean to be rude to you, but from what we've seen so far, there is no way that the total power of 8 beasts is exponentially smaller than a beast with one tail more than the 8th beast. Hell, the combined chakra capacity and power of the Hachibi and Nanabi (7 tails) is likely greater than the Kyuubi's.
Also, the Sage created the f***ing moon, and shot it into space while he was nearly dead. Nothing has demonstrated that sort of power in the Naruto-verse as of yet.
Originally posted by Q99
And honestly, even Shukaku wasn't that weak. He was still huge and powerful and only 'beaten' by waking Gaara up.
True enough. Hachibi demolished a very large portion of the valley it was in, which puts it above half-powered Kyuubi, as the latter has no feats at its strongest - 9 tails.
IMO, while 9 tails at full power is the most powerful of the tailed beasts by virtue of # of tails and power-scaling, we don't know just how much of a gap there is between it and the others.
Honestly, to me, there is no way that the combined power/chakra of 8 Tails...1 Tail is smaller than that of the 9 Tails.
Otherwise, all the Ninja alliance would have to do in the war, is to rip the Kyuubi out of Naruto (he should survive it), set it loose on Akatsuki & the other 7 beasts, and let it do all the work while they GTFO. Then they could come back and seal it up in a pot or something. Hell, Konoha would do that to Akatsuki. There's no need for an alliance, as the other countries could simply just tell Konoha to take care of it by using the Kyuubi.
Sorry for the tl:dr. >__>
Originally posted by NemeBro
Are you actually saying that the Kyuubi comprises 9/10ths of the Juubi's power?Man, apparently the Juubi is really weak.
I believe you're being sarcastic, but the remnants of its power is probably what let the Sage create the moon when he was nearly dead.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well Jiraiya says its one of the strongest and has the most chakra.
One of the strongest? Does he know about the Juubi? mmm
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
One of the strongest? Does he know about the Juubi? mmm
I'd say its not too far of a stretch to say the tailed beasts are not that far apart in terms of power, while certainly having the most chakra would probably give the Kyuubi the title of strongest. Or one of them anyway. And I doubt he knew about the Juubi. Onoki is far older than him and even Madara told him about it. Even if he was following Akatsuki's movements, its unlikely he uncovered that tidbit of info. And if he did, I would think he'd tell Tsunade about it.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I have not been impressed with the Kyuubi at all.
This. Quite frankly none of these tailed beasts have impressed me much at all. The supposed strongest (via tail number at least) was superbly underwhelming in its fight against naruto, and the second most powerful (hachibi) iirc had almost all its chakra absorbed by Kisame with Samehada or something to that effect. I would expect much more from beasts of "near infinite" chakra....
Originally posted by Kento
😆 That would probably be the dumbest thing ever though. Sending Kyuubi without a host against Madara.
DERP. >__>
but but Kyuubi's too powerful. 1-8 tails stand no chance against it. 😛
Originally posted by Naija boy
This. Quite frankly none of these tailed beasts have impressed me much at all. The supposed strongest (via tail number at least) was superbly underwhelming in its fight against naruto, and the second most powerful (hachibi) iirc had all its chakra absorbed by Kisame with Samehada or something to that effect. I would expect much more from beasts of "near infinite" chakra....
I think only Killerbee ran out of chakra. Can't recall properly though.
Originally posted by Naija boy
This. Quite frankly none of these tailed beasts have impressed me much at all. The supposed strongest (via tail number at least) was superbly underwhelming in its fight against naruto, and the second most powerful (hachibi) iirc had all its chakra absorbed by Kisame with Samehada or something to that effect. I would expect much more from beasts of "near infinite" chakra....
That illustrates their achilles' heal- no matter how strong and tough they are, if you steal their chakra as Naruto or Samehada did, then they're crippled.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
DERP. >__>but but Kyuubi's too powerful. 1-8 tails stand no chance against it. 😛
I think only Killerbee ran out of chakra. Can't recall properly though.
8 tails apparently also was close to running out of chakra
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/13/
Originally posted by Naija boy
8 tails apparently also was close to running out of chakra
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/472/13/
That's cleared up then.
Samehada does have a monster appetite though.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I was under the impression there is no distinction between the two, Killer Bee mastered his Biju and has full access to its chakra.
He does, but their chakras are still different, and he has to ask for it apparently.
Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Because we have seen it cause SO many tsunamis, amirite?
Right, cause we HAVE to see the tsunami's actually created to make it true, amirite?
Originally posted by NemeBro
2. That puts him on the same level as Pain. Who was then able to destroy an area that appeared even greater than the giant Shinra Tensei with Chibaku Tensei. I am not saying it is weak. I am saying it is signifigantly less powerful than originally hyped, and if it is the bulk of the Juubi's power then the Juubi was VASTLY overhyped.
Close, but not exactly.
Pain's attack was a jutsu/technique.
The Kyuubi's was just pure energy.
The Kyuubi's life does not shorten because of it, Pain's does.
One of them is a better feat of power than the other: guess which one?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Funny, Sarutobi and friends seemed to be doing a pretty good job of holding it back.
Oh really? Cause it looked like, to me, like they were getting their asses kicked. 😐
Originally posted by NemeBro
When Minato came he all but stomped it.
No, he didn't "stomp" it at all. 😬
He just avoided getting his ass destroyed.
Then his wife's special chakras came along to save the day.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Yeah, that's pretty much how it is. 9 Tailed Beast > 8 Tailed Beast > 7 Tailed Beast....> 1 Tailed Beast.The 8-Tailed version of half-powered Kyuubi doesn't have any feats, apart from breaking out of something that held the 6 tailed version.
Hachibi still has the better menacing ball feat between itself & the half-powered Kyuubi. The full powered Kyuubi would have decimated the entirety of Konoha with its Menacing Ball, but that is moot as it was the full powered Kyuubi. Hachibi destroyed a large portion of the area it was in, which is better than anything we've seen from the half-powered Kyuubi so far.
Well, the 8-Tails Kyuubi broke out of a technique that sealed the 10- tails. (Thought it wasn't nearly as big as the moon.). The technique was so powerful that it was pulling all matter around the land towards it...far more "powerful" than any physical feat executed by anyone. The Kyuubi broke out of that force...which puts it on level with absurdly physically powerful.
I disagree. 4-tails Naruto destroyed almost as much area as full-powered 8-tails.