The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by King Kandy
Everyone understands that, the question is, how much stronger do you get with each new tail (is it enough to beat a team of biju with more tails in total, for instance)?

Kamui's ranged anyway, does it really need FTG? 🙂

TheAuraAngel

I wouldn't mind FTG with Chidori. It actually fits more with the name somewhat.

Yea, I agree with that.

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One thing we haven't talked about much: We found out what happen when hosts die, namely the Biju is gone for awhile but then returns. Which means, they know what happen when hosts die.

Perhaps that's why 3-tails is free, Yagura was offed rather than the turtle being extracted.

It has presumably happened before.

That makes sense, they are essentially chakra tied to a split spirit, so when the human dies the chakra is extinguished but the spirit probably just floats around until it builds up enough chakra to reincorporate.

I am in agreement. I also wonder how it affects the balance we were talking about earlier- at times, some biju or other may be 'dead' and wait awhile to get back. It's possible Konoha could've kept one more who later went down in battle.

Perhaps that's even how Waterfall got theirs, happening to chance upon it in a wild state and claiming it, which stuck as they claimed it as reparations for damages caused, or retrieval was attempted but the other villages attacked in response. Something like that could've been one of the causes of one of the wars.

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Oh, here's a Flying Thunder God idea, FTG: Tenten variant.

She tosses seal kunai around the field, then activates FTG as she throws other specially made weapons so that the projectiles come at the enemy from unexpected directions. With her aim and throw quantity, she could probably do some pretty sick attacks that way.

Originally posted by Q99
Oh, here's a Flying Thunder God idea, FTG: Tenten variant.

She tosses seal kunai around the field, then activates FTG as she throws other specially made weapons so that the projectiles come at the enemy from unexpected directions. With her aim and throw quantity, she could probably do some pretty sick attacks that way.

Originally posted by NemeBro
That would actually be pretty hax.

She said she wanted to become a great kunoichi like Tsunade, so she's going to need a jutsu like that 🙂

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It would be cool I suppose, though poor Kakashi would eventually pass out one way or another. That's just how he rolls. If only he had Naruto's stamina. Or hell, Sasuke's stamina would be better than his own.

He'll get it though. Along with Sage Mode and Rasengan. 🙄

Bee using FTG?

Hmm Sage Mode eyes with EMS Sharingan....wonder how that would look.

lol 7 Sword Style wasn't random enough, add teleporting everywhere while in the middle of his random swordplay. That could be awesome.

Funny how FTG can make almost every jutsu combined with it a lethal weapon. A not so better question would be wondering who could make FTG suck?

Umm...why would Sasuke need Sage mode?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
A not so better question would be wondering who could make FTG suck?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Umm...why would Sasuke need Sage mode?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Everyone understands that, the question is, how much stronger do you get with each new tail (is it enough to beat a team of biju with more tails in total, for instance)?

Exactly.

Worst case scenario, the power-scaling is totally ****ed up because Naruto's powerup and blast at four tails is on scale (even if a marginally smaller) with Hachibi's full power blast.

Easiest to understand scenario is it scales, very equally, with the number of tails.

Still doesn't explain why 4-tails, half powered, Kyuubi, is even remotely on scale with the Hachibi, though. Even if the Hachibi's was larger, it's still not by much. How can we bridge the gap between a Kyuubi that was only 4-tails with half chakra? We can't. That puts the Kyuubi, a the very least, on a much more powerful scale than the Hachibi, at the very least.

And we already know from the images that even if that valley the Hachibi was in was destroyed by the Hachibi's blast, it's still not nearly as large as the destruction as Pain created and, by default, the blast that Kyuubi would have created (because it would have destroyed the whole Leaf Village, some as Pain's attack.) The valley isn't nearly as large as the Leaf-Village, by far. That automatically puts the full power 9-tails at a much larger scale than the Hachibi by several times.

Well, something else that can explain it is that Hachibi simply didn't use it's full power blast. After all Killerbee has perfect control over Hachibi (and was actually looking for an excuse to lose), while the kyuubi was a wild beast, so it seems plausible that Hachibi used a controlled blast.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Funny how FTG can make almost every jutsu combined with it a lethal weapon. A not so better question would be wondering who could make FTG suck?

Umm...why would Sasuke need Sage mode?

Madara. 131

Because he wants golden sharingan.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, something else that can explain it is that Hachibi simply didn't use it's full power blast. After all Killerbee has perfect control over Hachibi (and was actually looking for an excuse to lose), while the kyuubi was a wild beast, so it seems plausible that Hachibi used a controlled blast.

That'd be true if he weren't almost out of chakra, though.

When was he almost out of chakra? He was at the peak of his power when he fought Sasuke unlike his fight with Kisame. Even if Hachibi was almost out of chakra, all that would mean is that the blast definitely wasn't something using his full power.

Originally posted by King Kandy
When was he almost out of chakra? He was at the peak of his power when he fought Sasuke unlike his fight with Kisame. Even if Hachibi was almost out of chakra, all that would mean is that the blast definitely wasn't something using his full power.

lol! True, on that last point.

It wasn't like the already drained Kyuubi using his every last bit of chakra to the point of dissolving it's flesh, just to get a blast off.

So what you're saying is that Kyuubi used it's full power in that blast, while Hachibi did not indicate that it did any such thing. So basically, you agree that Hachibi hadn't been using anywhere near it's full chakra.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So what you're saying is that Kyuubi used it's full power in that blast, while Hachibi did not indicate that it did any such thing. So basically, you agree that Hachibi hadn't been using anywhere near it's full chakra.

The Kyuubi was in Naruto's head and it was on it's last leg right before Naruto took it over. It was so drained of chakra that it decided to destroy itself just to make a blast.

That's not even close to the same scenario as the Hachibi's.

I don't think we're thinking of the same thing... after the kyuubi launched it's menacing ball at Orochimaru, the two continued to fight for a bit after that, and the Kyuubi left because Naruto took control, not because it was out of chakra (I don't really see what it had been doing before then that could have been a significant drain on it's chakra.

Also, six tails used menacing ball when it was being pulled into Chibaku Tensei and all it did was make a small explosion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't think we're thinking of the same thing... after the kyuubi launched it's menacing ball at Orochimaru, the two continued to fight for a bit after that, and the Kyuubi left because Naruto took control, not because it was out of chakra (I don't really see what it had been doing before then that could have been a significant drain on it's chakra.

Also, six tails used menacing ball when it was being pulled into Chibaku Tensei and all it did was make a small explosion.

Yeah, right. I'm talking about when Naruto was trying to take over the Kyuubi, in his mind/spirit.

Oh... I don't see how that entered the conversation. I was just comparing four tails vs eight tails menacing ball.