Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So do you all think that the 4th is > all of the current Kage's?
At once? No. Individual? Very likely. Onoki and Raikage are the only ones I can think of that would be a good match for him. Raikage vs Minato would be cool.
Now if Minato were alive, would he be in charge of the Alliance? I'm leaning towards yes.
Kishimoto's guide to trolling Sasuke.(took me ages to write).
Since were on the subject of Uchiha's like always, allow me to carefully break down a certain Uchiha's feats from the unbiased eye.
The art of trolling has reached new heights. After careful analyzation, I've come to realize how they accomplish such great work.
1. Complain about how much chakra Sasuke has used, but then ridicule him once he runs out.
This has been happening a lot. With threads asking why Sasuke hasn't run out of chakra. Even though they have been complaining for 2 weeks now about his chakra levels, they now ridicule him for running out. Even though he's displayed a shit load of chakra. His chakra has far exceeded most of the people in this manga, and has displayed a wide variety of jutsus.
But don't worry, that doesn't matter. The only thing that does, is that he ran out of chakra. Lol, Sasuke.
2. Disregard the fact that he fought with 2 kages.
You remember Raikage? Yeah, the one that was hyped by Bee and was as fast as Narutos dad? Well, we just witnessed Sasuke successful consuming one of his arms, and stopping Gaara and Raikage from pursuing him. Not only did this show that Sasuke is smart in saving his chakra from his main target, and not his detours, it shows that he has the capability of doing so in front of 2 kages, 3 jounins and kankurou.
Just make sure you disregard this fact and put emphasis on his great art of run jutsus. And ignore the fact that Pain ran, Danzou ran, Itachi ran and Kakashi ran. Lol, Sasuke.
3. Disregard his ability to use MS properly and intelligently
Amaterasu was first introduced as a jutsu that just rapes anything it sees. Then it got downgraded to a jutsu that can't burn through clothes. Sasuke has shown that his amaterasu is strong enough to force the raikage to cut his arm off. Not only that, he's showed that he can spatially compose it to an extent that Itachi, one of the strongest ninjas in the manga, couldn't. He also used it strategicly and mixed it with Susano-o so that Raikages shunshin speed had some sort of counter, twice.
But disregard the fact that he forced Raikage to amputate one of his arms, and only went after Danzou, because he was saving his chakra by choosing not to fight 2 kages, and just say that he failed to kill a samurai. Lol, Sasuke.
4. Disregard the fact that anyone with half a brain saw his loss coming.
I recently just read a thread that said Sasuke fails because he failed to beat 5 kages with ms. As if MS was that hacked. If MS was automatically above top tiers, then Sasuke>Naruto. But that isn't the case.
But disregard the fact that MS isn't as haxed as it was at one time and it took 3 kages, 3 jounins, kankurou and a bunch of fodder samurai to force him out of chakra.
Just make sure you make it very clear that he failed with MS. But also contradict yourself and say MS is shit.
Lol, Sasuke.
5. Try and counter any Sasuke growth arguments by simply stating he's "emo"
Sasuke is full of hate, yes. He hated the guy who killed his parents. And he hates the guy who went ahead and approved of the Uchiha massacre.
Just ignore the fact other people who have had their families and loved ones killed turned out the same. Hell, remember old Gaara? Whenever someone got in his way, his solution was sand coffin. Yet he was loved. Remember Pain? The biggest emo in the manga? Yeah, he was homicidal to the point of wiping out countries, and basically was willing to **** everyone over for his plans. Yet he is loved. Sure others, like Kakashi and Naruto turned out fine, but it's not like everyone did.
But disregard the fact that people that are idolized on this forum, have the same personality as Sasuke. and just simply state that he's an emo. And rage over it.
Sasuke.....
6. Idolize anyone who gives Sasuke a run for his money.
Deidara, Orochimaru, Itachi, KillerBee and Raikage. When you put those names in a sentance, the first thought that comes up is "strong nina". But in a Sasuke vs x discussion, they are automatically used to stir up debates. Lol, Sasuke couldn't kill "x" without pnj.
But disregard the fact that Naruto has never beaten anyone without help or unfair circumstances, and just simply state that Sasuke is a failure for being unable to 1 shot high tier ninja.
And make sure that as soon as Deidara and Oro are brought up in another convo, just say that they got one shotted by Itachi to downgrade Sasuke even more. But also disregard the fact that it's because of Itachi that Deidara developed immunity to sharingan techs. Ignore that, completely.
LOL SASUKE.
7. Ignore Sasukes good feats, and use bad feats.
Whenever Sasuke performs a notable feat like spatially composing amaterasu or dodging Raikage point blank, counter it with a shitty feat.
Disregard the fact that the same amaterasu forced Raikage and killerbee to amputate themselves, and just overshadow it with Samurais and Karin not dying.
sauce.....
8. Make sure you bring up Sasukes sexuality.
Even though this is almost completely irrelevent in most discussions, just bring it up anyways. Make sure you point out that Sasuke has never shown any interest in women.
But disregard the fact that half the people in the manga haven't shown the slightest interest in women. Also disregard the fact that he said he wants to revive his clan.
Hide your raging homophobia by saying "lol hes gay"
like totally
9. Make sure you say Sasuke is shit without sharingan.
Even though taking away someones fighting style and seeing how they would fair is completely retarded, just do it anyways. Also, even though Sasuke obviously trained his sharingan over the time skip, ignore that. Also ignore that the sharingan didn't help him develop chidori variants, new katons and his ability to tame lightning. Also ignore the fact that the rinnegan is even more haxed than the sharingan.
But disregard any of those and just say that the sharingan is haxxed, and that hes shit without it.
lol uchiha
10. Ignore the the fact that many notable characters have commented on Sasukes abilities.
Jiraiya said he was talented and learned things fast. Orochimaru basically said at Sasukes age, he was shit compared to him. Kakashi said "they were alike". Zabuza said that he developed quickly. Haku said that fighting him head on would be dangerous. Madara and Zetsu even pointed out that he has the potential to be stronger than Nagato.
But ignore all of that, and simply go around saying Naruto>Sasuke. Even though at this point Naruto>99% of the characters in the manga.
11. The golden one. Ignore any argument that isn't going your way, and simply say Lol Uchiha.
Even though elders didn't dare touch them without Itachi, disregard that.
Lol Uchiha.
Follow these 11 steps and you are sure to troll properly.
next time: Naruto haters guide to trolling. Which would have even more steps.
edit: step 12, if you dont like this thread then troll in it.
Originally posted by NemeBro
3. Naruto's pants holding back his penis every time he sees Sasuke is by far the most impressive feat in the manga.
Naruto's dickless, as Sai has so astutely stated.
Originally posted by Kento
Unless your name is Sasuke or Naruto, skill set seems to have some relevance not just power.
Sasuke Sarutobi must have been one hell of a ninja. He's a freaking Sarutobi, AND he had the name 'Sasuke'. vin
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
So do you all think that the 4th is > all of the current Kage's?
All except the Raikage perhaps. Still don't know if Minato is faster in terms of actual speed, or the Raikage is.
~ Also, Tobi seems to have moved about as fast as Minato was moving:
http://haven-reader.net/manga/Naruto/Chapter%20502%20-%20The%20Fourth%20Hokage%20Goes%20To%20War/14.png
http://haven-reader.net/manga/Naruto/Chapter%20502%20-%20The%20Fourth%20Hokage%20Goes%20To%20War/15.png
Originally posted by Q99
I didn't get the idea he felt that Madara could beat all five of them by himself, just that he was very individually powerful.
Current Madara/Tobi certainly wouldn't, as evidenced by the fact that he wanted Sasuke to weaken them in order to take them prisoner*. Full Powered Madara likely would...based on power-scaling. IMO, only Sarutobi (FP) is above Hashirama, and Madara was basically Hashirama's equal.
* I get the feeling that was just a bluff, seeing as he tried to warp Minato who was near full strength. Would certainly agree with the idea that Madara/Tobi actually wanted to tell the Kages about his 'plan' instead of taking them prisoner.
Originally posted by NemeBro
... Really? haermm
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=25817078&postcount=424
Ja.
Yea, I skipped that post too.
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
At once? No. Individual? Very likely. Onoki and Raikage are the only ones I can think of that would be a good match for him. Raikage vs Minato would be cool.Now if Minato were alive, would he be in charge of the Alliance? I'm leaning towards yes.
Why Onoki? At his age he's probably the weakest, and Terumi's got a similar kekkei genkai too.
Hm, she'd be pretty tricky since even if you teleport next to her, you're teleporting into acid!
Demonic PhoenixCurrent Madara/Tobi certainly wouldn't, as evidenced by the fact that he wanted Sasuke to weaken them in order to take them prisoner*. Full Powered Madara likely would...based on power-scaling. IMO, only Sarutobi (FP) is above Hashirama, and Madara was basically Hashirama's equal.
* I get the feeling that was just a bluff, seeing as he tried to warp Minato who was near full strength. Would certainly agree with the idea that Madara/Tobi actually wanted to tell the Kages about his 'plan' instead of taking them prisoner.
I suspect he may have thought that Sasuke would unlock full Susano'o sooner and seriously hurt several of them... if it's wounded Kage vs him and Zetsu, and possibly doing it before Sasuke's out, then capture may be a possibility. A bit hopeful though, he probably did think the explanation thing and just using them as training for Sasuke was more likely.
Originally posted by Kento
That's why he'll never be shown.Spoiler:
😛 Cause he's ALMOST as epic as a Hyuuga in just name.
Undoubtedly he'll be the manliest and strongest ninja evar!
Spoiler:
Hiruzen claimed to be the 'God of Shinobi', even though it was Sasuke Sarutobi who really was the 'God of Shinobi' 😛
Uzumakis are more epic than Hyuugas. 😛 The only epic Hyuuga is Hanabi.
Originally posted by Q99
I suspect he may have thought that Sasuke would unlock full Susano'o sooner and seriously hurt several of them... if it's wounded Kage vs him and Zetsu, and possibly doing it before Sasuke's out, then capture may be a possibility. A bit hopeful though, he probably did think the explanation thing and just using them as training for Sasuke was more likely.
Chances are it's just as you described it. Though I still get the feeling that Tobi is just playing around with them, and actually wanted to tell them his 'plan' as he had anticipated their movements after his revelation.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixAwesome.
http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=25817078&postcount=424Ja.
Originally posted by Q99
Why Onoki? At his age he's probably the weakest, and Terumi's got a similar kekkei genkai too.Hm, she'd be pretty tricky since even if you teleport next to her, you're teleporting into acid!
Well we don't really know that much about Onoki except that he fought Madara and lived. He may be old but so was Chiyo and Hiruzen, and they got along pretty well. I know he is older than them and physically weaker, but its not like taijutsu would help with Minato. Other than nintai of course.
Well that's just a matter of avoiding the mist. She can drop it at any time so just wait until then to strike, like how his son did with Neji. And also, depends on the arena, though Minato can always pick the arena he prefers. He seems faster than her as of now in base speed, which is why I think he could beat her.
And did Killermover just try to pass that off as his own writing?
Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well we don't really know that much about Onoki except that he fought Madara and lived. He may be old but so was Chiyo and Hiruzen, and they got along pretty well. I know he is older than them and physically weaker, but its not like taijutsu would help with Minato. Other than nintai of course.
Hiruzen was specifically mentioned to be well below his prime, though, and he was fairly nervous about fighting Orochimaru.
Physical ability is good for avoiding attacks as well as making Madara phase. It also affects the amount of chakra one has.
Well that's just a matter of avoiding the mist. She can drop it at any time so just wait until then to strike, like how his son did with Neji. And also, depends on the arena, though Minato can always pick the arena he prefers. He seems faster than her as of now in base speed, which is why I think he could beat her.
But she's got that threat in addition to plenty of other jutsu too. Controlling the form of the battlefield and persistent threats seems to be her speciality, between acid and lava.
I'm not saying Terumi'd win, just that see seems like Terumi'd be harder than Onoki for him.
And did Killermover just try to pass that off as his own writing?
It looks like. They could be the same person?
Originally posted by King Kandy
Raikage > him.
I actually think Minato could take Raikage. Would be the toughest fight.
Originally posted by Q99
Hiruzen was specifically mentioned to be well below his prime, though, and he was fairly nervous about fighting Orochimaru.Physical ability is good for avoiding attacks as well as making Madara phase. It also affects the amount of chakra one has.
But she's got that threat in addition to plenty of other jutsu too. Controlling the form of the battlefield and persistent threats seems to be her speciality, between acid and lava.
I'm not saying Terumi'd win, just that see seems like Terumi'd be harder than Onoki for him.
It looks like. They could be the same person?
Well, he still did well in the fight against a Sanin and two indestructable kage. So age isn't everything.
Well the lava I don't think is that big of a deal to Minato. He'd dodge it more likely than not and yeah, she does tend to make the battlefeild suit her whims. But Minato has that too as he literally could just grab her and take her somewhere else. Acid Mist is the main problem.
And I know you're not. But Onoki has to have some tricks that someone as young as Mei wouldn't have. He fought Madara and win or lose, that is impressive imo.
I was thinking that but why change the title?
