The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Q99
Hm... it occurs to me we've now seen every Akatsuki fight except Zetsu (and even got to see him do a few things).

How do we rate them, strongest to weakest?

Nagato
Madara (only because of his 5-minute Izanagi)
Itachi
Kisame (w/ Samehada)
Kakuzu
Orochimaru
Sasori
Deidara
Konan (without years of prep)
Hidan
Zetsu

Originally posted by Kento
As long as you don't mean Uchiha Sasuke then we are agreed. Course the Uchiha clan would stand no chance against Saru and his father either. 😛

She was just to busy being distracted by thoughts of Shikamaru's safety after the attack, and how much she wanted him to focus on Sasuke. Yea... 🙁
I would actually just like to see Shino's father...fight. All we know of him is his bugs can eat poison from a persons body. Yet he takes his, genin, son on high rank missions, and they come back safe.

Eh, yea Asuma says in the Hidan fight that Shika can think of 200 different moves in an instant, and choose the best one out of them. I thought something else was said during that time..guess not.

Pft, there eyes are just that way because of the awesomeness they contain within.

That's cause those secrets aren't worth Tsuchikage's time. 😛
Yea...but he's been making a lot of bold claims lately. Who knows what is what with him. He likes to keep secrets, and he knows how 'hard' it is to kill somebody. So I doubt he'll go blabbing everything to Konan even if he is about to kill her.

Pfft. Even Sasuke Uchiha with his EMS that can shut down and copy any jutsu/transformation would solo any clan. But yes, I was talking about Sasuke Sarutobi. Also, yes the Uchiha would be pwned, but they'd do much better than any other clan would. 131
Sasuke was holding back considerably, and he was focused on Naruto's safety after the attack. 😛

That's because nearly every ninja fears teh sunglasses. Shino and his dad just have to look at someone to scare them shitless. Sunglasses = Sharingan.

Must be a very miniscule amount of awesomeness then. 😛

You mean he's not cool enough to know such secrets 313
He probably made sure that Konan was dead I guess. I also doubt he'd tell Konan everything. He certainly did not tell her how he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Meh, at this point, hard to know what is true and what is not. Madara's most certainly not above using lies and deception though.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pfft. Even Sasuke Uchiha with his EMS that can shut down and copy any jutsu/transformation would solo any clan. But yes, I was talking about Sasuke Sarutobi. Also, yes the Uchiha would be pwned, but they'd do much better than any other clan would. 131
Sasuke was holding back considerably, and he was focused on Naruto's safety after the attack. 😛

That's because nearly every ninja fears teh sunglasses. Shino and his dad just have to look at someone to scare them shitless. Sunglasses = Sharingan.

Must be a very miniscule amount of awesomeness then. 😛

You mean he's not cool enough to know such secrets 313
He probably made sure that Konan was dead I guess. I also doubt he'd tell Konan everything. He certainly did not tell her how he gave Nagato the Rinnegan. Meh, at this point, hard to know what is true and what is not. Madara's most certainly not above using lies and deception though.

Ebisu > most others then?

Lies. They contain more awesomeness in just their eyes than Minato, A, and Bee combined contain in their whole bodies.

That too. lol
I wonder if we're going to see Madara running around with Rinnegan now...

Originally posted by Kento
He could say that Rikkudo was actually a Sarutobi and who would dispute him?

At the rate things are going, the Sage will probably turn out to be an Uzumaki. 😆

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nagato
Madara (only because of his 5-minute Izanagi)
Itachi
Kisame (w/ Samehada)
Kakuzu
Orochimaru
Sasori
Deidara
Konan (without years of prep)
Hidan
Zetsu

Only changes I'd make is putting Kakuzu behind Orochimaru, Sasori, and Deidera. And you seriously have Hidan above someone? Zetzu may not seem like much, but I'd wager he could kill Hidan.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
At the rate things are going, the Sage will probably turn out to be an Uzumaki. 😆

I still think it's not too late for Madara to be Naruto's grandpa.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Only changes I'd make is putting Kakuzu behind Orochimaru, Sasori, and Deidera. And you seriously have Hidan above someone? Zetzu may not seem like much, but I'd wager he could kill Hidan.

I'd put Kakuzu below Orochimaru and Deidara but I'd still keep him above Sasori. Hidan was cool for the sole fact he killed a Sarutobi; his so called "immortality" is crappy as hell though.

Originally posted by Kento
Pft, Sasuke is to dumb to know how to properly use such reality warping/nulling everything jutsu.
Of course the Uchiha would do best out of clans that woudl get pwned by Sarutobi's, 😛 That's cause Hyuuga would never loose to the Sarutobi clan.
What's his excuse for loosing to Gaara? 😆

Ebisu > most others then?

Lies. They contain more awesomeness in just their eyes than Minato, A, and Bee combined contain in their whole bodies.

That too. lol
I wonder if we're going to see Madara running around with Rinnegan now...

Originally posted by Kento
Pft, Sasuke is to dumb to know how to properly use such reality warping/nulling everything jutsu.
Of course the Uchiha would do best out of clans that woudl get pwned by Sarutobi's, 😛 That's cause Hyuuga would never loose to the Sarutobi clan.
What's his excuse for loosing to Gaara? 😆

Ebisu > most others then?

Lies. They contain more awesomeness in just their eyes than Minato, A, and Bee combined contain in their whole bodies.

That too. lol
I wonder if we're going to see Madara running around with Rinnegan now...

He's smarter than any Hyuuga ever will be, including the great Hanabi, and the great Hanabi would most certainly know how to properly use such hax jutsu. 313
That's only because the Sarutobi would send only Konohamaru to fight against the Hyuuga. Once Asuma enters the fight, it's over for the Hyuuga. 😛
He had used up one Chidori and wasted time on Temari. 😛

Only if he weren't a closet pervert. If he were open about his perverseness like Jiraiya was, then yes, Ebisu > most others.

Correction, the Uchiha contain more awesomeness in their eyes than Minato, A & Bee combined contain in their whole bodies. The Hyuuga have less awesomeness in their eyes than Naruto has in his whole body. 😛

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Only changes I'd make is putting Kakuzu behind Orochimaru, Sasori, and Deidera. And you seriously have Hidan above someone? Zetzu may not seem like much, but I'd wager he could kill Hidan.

If it weren't for Kakuzu's 4 extra hearts, I'd definitely put him below those 3.
To be fair though, I actually consider him below Orochimaru now. I had forgotten about Orochimaru's Hydra Technique and his insane damage soak.

As for Hidan, no one can kill him. Zetsu hasn't shown us much in terms of combat, and he certainly hasn't shown us anything that would indicate he could take down Hidan IMO.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If it weren't for Kakuzu's 4 extra hearts, I'd definitely put him below those 3.
To be fair though, I actually consider him below Orochimaru now. I had forgotten about Orochimaru's Hydra Technique and his insane damage soak.

As for Hidan, no one can kill him. Zetsu hasn't shown us much in terms of combat, and he certainly hasn't shown us anything that would indicate he could take down Hidan IMO.

lol wouldn't the hearts be a detriment for Kakuzu when Sasori poisons him? I'd imagine he'd be pumping the poison 5 times as fast as everyone else. And Deidara should only need a nice C3 or C4 to take Kakuzu down.

Correction then, defeat him. And Zetsu was willing to fight Naruto, which at the time was pretty ballsy of him. Even Madara seemed surprised. But yeah I guess by showings, he doesn't have anything to prove he could beat him.

Nagato
Madara (only because of his 5-minute Izanagi)
Itachi
Kisame (w/ Samehada)
Kakuzu
Orochimaru
Sasori
Deidara
Konan (without years of prep)
Hidan
Zetsu

Hm... and Konan with prep / Kisame without Samehada?

As for my list, I'd bump up Konan. Sans explosive tags, the chasm thing would still kill members of akatsuki as simple paper attacks, and even without that level of prep, Konan'd still normally have plenty of tags. Plus she's one of the members able to ignore lost limbs and such.

So I put Kakuzu/Sasori/Konan in the same general level (I think Konan'd beat Sasori if her paper form makes her safe from poison, but the poison makes him worse against most other foes).

My list is:
Nagato
Itachi (Healthy)
Madara (only because of his 5-minute Izanagi)
Konan (w/ billion tags)
Itachi (Sick)
Kisame (w/ Samehada)
Orochimaru
Kakuzu
Sasori
Konan (w/o billion tags)
Deidara
Kisame (w/o Samehada)
Hidan
Zetsu

A healthy Itatchi with such a haxx ability has to be number one.

What hax ability would that be?

Being able to use his Susano'o a lot more would be nice, but I don't think it'd put him above Nagato and it's still painful to use.

Originally posted by NemeBro
What hax ability would that be?

Originally posted by marwash22
Amaterasu.

true. But which is faster to implement? I'd say Amatersu would give Itachi the edge in a fight against Pein/Deva seeing as all Itachi has to do is look at his opponent.

The characters are in their current state or in case of death or beheading as they were prior to that battle, Orochimaru is in control of Kabuto's body.

[list=1][*]Uchiha Madara
[*]Uchiha Itachi
[*]Orochimaru
[*]Pain
[*]Konan
[*]Kisame Hoshigaki
[*]Sasori
[*]Deidara
[*]Kakuzu
[*]Hidan
[*]Zetsu[/list=1]

I'd wager Pain could dodge it pretty well. One of the Paths could probably absorb it.

Pain wouldn't be able to defeat Itachi for two reasons. When fighting Jiraiya, Pain had no counter or protection for the genjutsu used by Fukasaku and Shima. Also, even after Naruto defeated Pain (before Sasuke got Itachi's eyes) it was confirmed that Naruto wouldn't be able to win against Sasuke who at the time was as powerful, if not still weaker than Itachi.

Originally posted by Astner
The characters are in their current state or in case of death or beheading as they were prior to that battle, Orochimaru is in control of Kabuto's body.

[list=1][*]Uchiha Madara
[*]Uchiha Itachi
[*]Orochimaru
[*]Pain
[*]Konan
[*]Kisame Hoshigaki
[*]Sasori
[*]Kakuzu
[*]Hidan
[*]Zetsu[/list=1]

Deidara?

Also, Konan went from being one of the weakest, to being considered one of the strongest. I still think she'd lose out to Sasori or Deidara. Kakuzu, maybe not...

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd wager Pain could dodge it pretty well. One of the Paths could probably absorb it.

I would say...

1. Itachi
2. Madara
3. Orochimaru
4. Pein
5. Sasori
6. Kisame
7. Kakuzu
8. Deidara
9. Hidan
10. Konan
11. Zetsu