The Official Naruto series Thread

Started by Q991,600 pages

Neither did Sarutobi. Both had a huge array of jutsu that wasn't shown. But we've never seen Oro use jutsu much. Something always stops him. Like not having arms, or not trying. If Oro and Saru had both been one-on-one that battle could have been awesome with all the jutsu they know.

He did use a bunch against 4-tails.

Originally posted by Kento
Or it could be the simple matter of, I need a new body, and I want those eyes. Two things for the price of one. lol

It could be three things actually. Or 4 depending on the circumstances. Though it's not directly stated anywhere, Orochimaru could have also wanted new bodies not just for immortality, but for their chakra affinities as well. If he wants to master all the jutsu out there he would need to have affinities for them and he's never seen using Katon(or Raiton for that matter). Sasuke with a young healthy body, amazing eyes, and two natures Orochimaru has never been seen using, would probably be the best Christmas present ever.

But that's a stretch I know. Orochimaru has never commented on it, or at least I don't remember him doing so.

Originally posted by Kento
He wanted Minato more. He just used Naruto to get Minato's attention.

😛 Sasuke's hatred is nothing to Madara's hatred. So Sasuke will never be able to.

😄 But this is ITACHI'S Uchiha Love. It cancels Uzumaki's Love.

But he had Wood along with all those. And Wood > sharingan.

Pfft, that's what you think. Kushina and Minato knew that Madara wanted to ravage Naruto more than anything else, which is why they put the Kyuubi in him. 😛

But Sasuke can cancel Madara's hatred just by looking at him. vin

If it cancels Uzumaki love, then it becomes weaker as it has to lose some of its power to cancel. Uzumaki love is shitty like that.

Seeing as Madara copied Wood, Sharingan > Wood. 313

Originally posted by Kento
Saru probably would've beaten Oro had Shodai and Nidai not been around though. His need for Death God was because of the immortal nature of those two. Seriously how many people could defeat Edo Tensei bodies in Naruto without that ability? Kakashi is about the only one I can think of. He's the only one with an ability to get rid of them without making himself vulnerable like Madara.
Though with Kabuto using it that ability is bound to get downgraded....

Sarutobi did have his concerns about facing Orochimaru though.

The Totsuka sword is essentially a watered down version of the Death God, minus the huge price, so I think Itachi (and perhaps Sasuke, if his Susano'o gets the Sword) would be able to beat them. Madara could warp them away like Kakashi would with Kamui, though yeah, he'd be vulnerable. Kisame could likely drain their chakra with his Samehada. Konan could trap them with her Paper Angel Tech.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The wording PS was that Oro had to wait 3 years before he could change, not "you have to change in 3 years", which was why I was being thrown off. My apologies.

Makes sense. A regular, but strong, Ninja should last 3 years. It makes perfect sense that Kimi's body would last him for many years to multiple decades due to the regenerative properties of the body. I can see why, now, Oro wanted Kimi's body so much: it was be useful for many many years.

Pity he cannot use that tech anymore, since Sasuke destroyed the dimension.
Sasuke can bust dimensions!!! awesome

Indeed. Which is likely why he did not want Kimi's body after Kimimaro contracted his terminal disease.

The disease likely makes it worse; going into a body that won't last 3 years is potentially permanently fatal.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Pfft, that's what you think. Kushina and Minato knew that Madara wanted to ravage Naruto more than anything else, which is why they put the Kyuubi in him. 😛

But Sasuke can cancel Madara's hatred just by looking at him. vin

If it cancels Uzumaki love, then it becomes weaker as it has to lose some of its power to cancel. Uzumaki love is shitty like that.

Seeing as Madara copied Wood, Sharingan > Wood. 313

Sarutobi did have his concerns about facing Orochimaru though.

The Totsuka sword is essentially a watered down version of the Death God, minus the huge price, so I think Itachi (and perhaps Sasuke, if his Susano'o gets the Sword) would be able to beat them. Madara could warp them away like Kakashi would with Kamui, though yeah, he'd be vulnerable. Kisame could likely drain their chakra with his Samehada. Konan could trap them with her Paper Angel Tech.

But Madara likes to use the Kyuubi as his play thing. 😛 So you saying Minato wanted his son to be ravaged by Uchiha?

Pft, you wish. Madara's hatred is cause he was rejected by a Senju.

Touche..lol

Madara lost to Wood so, Wood > Sharingan.

Cause he was old. Saru probably wouldn't of had a easy win if he did. But he probably did have a chance at it. The only person alive in Konoha with that chance.

lol Forgot all about Itachi. But I was trying to think of people alive though. That will be able to survive the Akatsuki Zombies.

Originally posted by Q99
He did use a bunch against 4-tails.
I don't remember him using all that many.

Originally posted by Kento
But Madara likes to use the Kyuubi as his play thing. 😛 So you saying Minato wanted his son to be ravaged by Uchiha?

Pft, you wish. Madara's hatred is cause he was rejected by a Senju.

Touche..lol

Madara lost to Wood so, Wood > Sharingan.

Cause he was old. Saru probably wouldn't of had a easy win if he did. But he probably did have a chance at it. The only person alive in Konoha with that chance.

lol Forgot all about Itachi. But I was trying to think of people alive though. That will be able to survive the Akatsuki Zombies. I don't remember him using all that many.

Secretly, yes. Which is why he brought up the whole "let's put Kyuubi in Naruto" bit. He even made Kyuubi weaker so that Madara would have an easier time. 313

Sasuke's EMS > Senju-born Hatred and you know it.

People think Madara lost to Hashirama, when Madara really copied Wood, so Sharingan > Wood.

True. Like you said before, I wish the fight wasn't centered on ET, so that it would be one on one, and we could have seen a bunch of jutsu from both sides.

Originally posted by Q99
The disease likely makes it worse; going into a body that won't last 3 years is potentially permanently fatal.

That too.

I wonder how Kabuto integrated Orochimaru's remains, such that it seemed possible that Orochimaru could be fully resurrected.

Originally posted by Kento
I don't remember him using all that many.

In that fight, he used: Hundreds of snakes with swords, three-iron gate summon, extro-neck and super extendo sword, a move where his bottom half was snake-like for high-speed, and his regen moves, all for the first time. Plus a 'snake summon coming from a sleeve' move.

Demonic Phoenix

I wonder how Kabuto integrated Orochimaru's remains, such that it seemed possible that Orochimaru could be fully resurrected.

I'm guessing if Orochimaru's chakra and flesh did take over, it'd be more a new Orochi monster than the original reborn per say.

oro's shtick is resurrection, he'll be back

^ Maybe the final battle will be a capcom-esque thing. Naruto will have to fight all the villains he's fought in the past, just before he faces off against Madara.

😐

Originally posted by Q99
In that fight, he used: Hundreds of snakes with swords, three-iron gate summon, extro-neck and super extendo sword, a move where his bottom half was snake-like for high-speed, and his regen moves, all for the first time. Plus a 'snake summon coming from a sleeve' move.

I'm guessing if Orochimaru's chakra and flesh did take over, it'd be more a new Orochi monster than the original reborn per say.

Which really isn't all that many when he probably has a wide array of jutsu that isn't snake or summon related.

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Originally posted by Kento
Which really isn't all that many when he probably has a wide array of jutsu that isn't snake or summon related.

Still, it's like a half-dozen in fairly short order with a variety of uses. In terms of number of jutsu I think only Kakashi and Jiraiya and Pain have shown as many on screen.

For combat, he does definitely seem to prefer the snake ones. Maybe he's just more comfortable with them? Outside of anime-only ones, he's only used elemental techniques once even, a wind release in the forest of death.

I guess he indeed prefers those kinds of jutsu and his Sword, as opposed to elemental ones. He must know a lot of jutsu though, seeing as his greatest joy in life is to study jutsu.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I guess he indeed prefers those kinds of jutsu and his Sword, as opposed to elemental ones. He must know a lot of jutsu though, seeing as his greatest joy in life is to study jutsu.

I think studying jutsu might be in large part to use them as a tool to enlightenment and power on a more theoretical level- the more he knows the more he understands of their base principles and how they affect the world, and from there he can apply those principles to his own research and new higher level techniques.

Perhaps if he finds an interesting jutsu, he might just make his own snake-varient to it instead of using it directly.

Or maybe Orochimaru just really sucks at his hobby?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Or maybe Orochimaru just really sucks at his hobby?

Not that much if he can do the kind of crazy stuff he does 🙂 Body-switch, five-element seals on the spot, raising the dead, merge with a tree...

Originally posted by Q99
I think studying jutsu might be in large part to use them as a tool to enlightenment and power on a more theoretical level- the more he knows the more he understands of their base principles and how they affect the world, and from there he can apply those principles to his own research and new higher level techniques.

Perhaps if he finds an interesting jutsu, he might just make his own snake-varient to it instead of using it directly.


I think so. In the anime they devote some flashback time to show him in a lab experimenting with new jutsu.

Well the only impressive ones are the body switch and raising the dead. And both of those require minimal prep time at the least.

don't forget his literal creation of the sound village and seemingly all of it's jutsu.

all of team dosu's techniques are due to orochimaru, and i don't have that part of the manga on hand to confirm, but in the anime when he fights sasuke in the FoD he used a sound jutsu that puts sasuke to sleep.

There's also the "turn into an 8-headed giant snake larger than Manda," thing.