The Official Naruto series Thread

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Depending on who you consider part of this generation. Itachi would most certainly get my vote if he were included. But if we're just talking about the Konoha 12, I'd actually go with Sasuke as the genius, with Neji running a close second.

Edit: If kids younger than that are included, my pick goes for Hanabi. Cause she is awesome.

Hanabi gets an awful amount of 'spect for a 6 yr old who appears in all of 5 panels. 😬

And you wouldn't believe how many adultfanfics I've seen starring her.....

On Ino, I'll point out she had mind-possession by the time she graduated. Think of how hard a jutsu that must be.

Her later advancement slowed down, but she's got a great spying jutsu and is reasonably tactical right out the gate, so I'm not surprised Ino got up there in terms of grades.

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Hanabi gets respect because she's said to be as strong as (pre time skip) Hinata already even though she's so young.

King Kandy
I was pretty impressed by Sasuke learning that Katon at like, 6.

It's a C-rank jutsu at that.

Originally posted by Q99
Hanabi gets respect because she's said to be as strong as (pre time skip) Hinata already even though she's so young..
She was stronger than Hinata, just weaker than Neji. By the timeskip she's probably a lot closer to Neji as she's still being trained by her father along side Neji,
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not to rain down on your point, but Ino was also top of that same class.

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I don't remember this ever being stated. And Sakura is better at everything Ino is and more yet wasn't so seems kinda strange even if it is.

Originally posted by Kento
And Sakura is better at everything Ino is and more yet wasn't so seems kinda strange even if it is.

These are at-graduation grades though. Sakura's smarter, but Ino has a clan jutsu and at that point is probably stronger.

Sak leveled up between graduation and the exam with help of stuff like tree walking which she turned out to be great at.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, that's why I said especially now that he has EMS. Besides, Sasuke probably didn't think about the risks. You know what they say about how when you're young, you feel like you're going to live forever? Likewise, while your eyesight is fine, going blind from MS probably feels like it's a long ways off. And by the time he started to feel it, he was in the middle of the hardest fights of his life and it's not like he could just stop.

He already knew that his eyesight was starting to fail. He realized that to be the case just after his fight with Kirabi. IMO, Sasuke was obsessed with the power the MS gave him, such that he did not care about the blindness.

Originally posted by RLAAMJR.
No. He's not.

Shino > Shikamaru.

Just to make it right

Only in terms of looking cool.

In terms of intelligence, Shikamaru > Shino.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Depending on who you consider part of this generation. Itachi would most certainly get my vote if he were included. But if we're just talking about the Konoha 12, I'd actually go with Sasuke as the genius, with Neji running a close second.

Edit: If kids younger than that are included, my pick goes for Hanabi. Cause she is awesome.

I consider Itachi to be a part of the current generation. He was about 5-6 years old when the Kyuubi attacked. Kakashi is likely the genius of the generation prior to the current one.

Sasuke > Neji >>> Konohamaru > Hanabi. 313
To be fair though, people like Lee, Sakura & Naruto are all genii in their own right.

Originally posted by Q99
These are at-graduation grades though. Sakura's smarter, but Ino has a clan jutsu and at that point is probably stronger.

Sak leveled up between graduation and the exam with help of stuff like tree walking which she turned out to be great at.

I seriously doubt Ino is stronger at graduation. Clan jutsu or not.

She didn't level up greatly at all between the start and the end of part 1. She didn't do any real training, even the tree walking thing she did without trying so it wasn't training really just something she could already do. Sasuke and Naruto were the only ones to get stronger in the Zabuza arc out of the three.

Originally posted by Kento
I seriously doubt Ino is stronger at graduation. Clan jutsu or not.

She didn't level up greatly at all between the start and the end of part 1. She didn't do any real training, even the tree walking thing she did without trying so it wasn't training really just something she could already do. Sasuke and Naruto were the only ones to get stronger in the Zabuza arc out of the three.

Naruto "discovered" his Kyuubi power and Sasuke unlocked his eyes...neither of which are getting stronger through training.

So what were you taking about other than walking up the tree?

Originally posted by dadudemon
So what were you taking about other than walking up the tree?
That was what made them stronger.

Sasuke went from being unable to do anything against Zabuza's water clones to beating 6, and keeping up with Haku. Before getting his eyes.

Originally posted by Kento
I seriously doubt Ino is stronger at graduation. Clan jutsu or not.

She didn't level up greatly at all between the start and the end of part 1. She didn't do any real training, even the tree walking thing she did without trying so it wasn't training really just something she could already do. Sasuke and Naruto were the only ones to get stronger in the Zabuza arc out of the three.

The tree walking thing still made her stronger- she used it to learn to speed boost, which was used in the Ino fight.

Ino was surprised by her abilities in their duel.

Just because she did it easily doesn't mean it's not a nice level up, it's a prelude of the skills that eventually made her physically powerful and a great medical nin.

Originally posted by Kento
That was what made them stronger.

Sasuke went from being unable to do anything against Zabuza's water clones to beating 6, and keeping up with Haku. Before getting his eyes.

Hmmm...

Wouldn't that be more of a case of being used to Zabuza and adpating?

Or he just got better at controlling his chakra along with using it for speed, thanks to the exercise.

I think it's a combination.

In the first mission, Team 7 was pretty hesitant from lack of experience (which is why Kakashi held back against the Demon Brothers, to give them a taste of combat), but got better as things went on.

he was scared shitless of zabuza

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he was scared shitless of zabuza

Only when he first saw him.

Originally posted by Q99
I think it's a combination.

In the first mission, Team 7 was pretty hesitant from lack of experience (which is why Kakashi held back against the Demon Brothers, to give them a taste of combat), but got better as things went on.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I consider Itachi to be a part of the current generation. He was about 5-6 years old when the Kyuubi attacked. Kakashi is likely the genius of the generation prior to the current one.

Sasuke > Neji >>> Konohamaru > Hanabi. 313
To be fair though, people like Lee, Sakura & Naruto are all genii in their own right.

Yeah, I'd say it was Kakashi. Only Guy seems to be around the same level as him, but he mostly came around through sheer work than talent. Not the kind of genius we're talking about though.

When Hinata was younger, she could smack around opponents. Konohamaru couldn't even transform when he was her age, much less fight(though he could do sexy technique, which is essentially just transforming). He is very nearly on the same level as Naruto, as in a hardworking genius. Though, the Pain incident proved he is at the least better than Naruto.

Itachi's far enough that I wouldn't really count him in the current, at least in terms of when he started as a ninja. He's about 5-6 years older than Sasuke, and became a ninja at five years less than Sasuke did, so that's a good decade apart.

Hmmm.....if the Chunin exams function as a replacement for war, what happens when the individual countries are at war? Do the exams still take place, because that seems unlikely.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Hmmm.....if the Chunin exams function as a replacement for war, what happens when the individual countries are at war? Do the exams still take place, because that seems unlikely.

They might simply promote people based on performance elsewhen, when exams aren't doable. Considering how few got promoted in the ones we saw, I'd even suspect a good chunk of chunin promotions are via completion of missions or perhaps within an organization (I.e. perhaps the interrogation or medical corps can promote people internally without the normal exams, and the exams are simply the flashiest way that just the best participate in).

The exam is just Leaf, Sand, Grass, Rain (probably old regime), Waterfall, and Sound too, so as long as they aren't the ones fighting each other, an exam may be possible (though likely called off due to not wanting to waste strength during war).

I suspect the other major villages have their own exams with their own different batches of small village allies (possibly with some overlap, I could see Rain sending ninja to both Earth's and Leaf's in order to keep both off their back).

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Yeah, I'd say it was Kakashi. Only Guy seems to be around the same level as him, but he mostly came around through sheer work than talent. Not the kind of genius we're talking about though.

When Hinata was younger, she could smack around opponents. Konohamaru couldn't even transform when he was her age, much less fight(though he could do sexy technique, which is essentially just transforming). He is very nearly on the same level as Naruto, as in a hardworking genius. Though, the Pain incident proved he is at the least better than Naruto.

Meh, genius is genius. srugThough yeah, as far as natural talent goes, only Sasuke and Neji are noteworthy in the current generation. Itachi has them beat by leaps and bounds if we include him.

Hanabi could smack around opponents? The only one I've seen her smacking around was Hinata. Granted, she'll still be strong due to her father's training, but that in no way implies she's incredibly talented.

Meanwhile, Konohamaru was as much a slacker as Naruto & Shikamaru, but nothing points to him gaining those A-level techs through hard work alone rather than talent.
If anything, he shouldn't have been able to learn the Shadow Clone technique at his age, much less the Rasengan at 9. Both of which put him above Hanabi in the talent department, seeing as we haven't really seen anything spectacular from Hanabi.