The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
All that needs to be done is to summon him, which in of itself will be quite a major distraction to whichever opponent Naruto's facing, never mind the chance that Gamabunta will be on top of them.

As to the reason I say Naruto wins the tourney, is simply because of his near-endless stamina. The entire tourney takes place in one day, and combatants probably get at most, a half-hour of rest.

Just using one Chidori takes a chunk out of Sasuke's chakra capacity, and I do not think he'd use the Cursed Seal against Naruto. Some of the Jounin might step in if he did, Kakashi included. We also don't know for how long he'd be able to keep up his speed in the final match. Though I give Naruto higher odds, Sasuke could likely pull off a win with his ninjutsu & taijutsu.

Yeah, the dude officiating the matches (Genma?) noted that Sasuke was already at a Chuunin level. Whether he was talking about the level of skill or actual rank, I do not know.

Alright but we've seen Naruto summon Gamabunta twice now, both times his life was in significant danger. I can't imagine anything from anyone that puts his life in immediate danger. 😮

Yes, that is what Naruto has going for him that no one else, except Gaara obviously, can really match. But there is only so much a beating even Naruto can take. If Shino can do enough chakra draining on him, Sasuke can deliver the physical beating.

Eh, considering he won't need Chidori against Temari, I'd say it's a fair bet he'd have a decent amount of chakra when facing Naruto. And it's not like he'd use Chidori on Naruto anyway. Bit of an overkill. Fire works just fine.

Eh....seems like if it were rank they'd have made another mention of it. Or maybe the notes on him got destroyed in the attack. Idk.

Chidori is good at taking down shadow clones, as young Kakashi showed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I just see Shino effing up any and all plans that anyone could come up with.

I think Temari's at least as smart a tactician, plus she has more power.

Shino needs a clever trick to get his bugs in, and he's not Shikamaru good. Temari doesn't need a clever plan, but'll be careful with her tactics anyway.

I would say that Sasuke would be a good match due to his lightning...but he had not developed his tech to be like that, yet. I don't think Naruto would do anything, either. He'd get bugs on him, lose his chakra, Shino takes the Chakra, Shino knocks him out, and the match ends.

Lightning? It's his fire that's an edge. Lightning < Wind < Fire.

He's faster and more able to get in close than Shino, and his fire should let him block her winds.

Originally posted by Q99
I think Temari's at least as smart a tactician, plus she has more power.

Shino needs a clever trick to get his bugs in, and he's not Shikamaru good. Temari doesn't need a clever plan, but'll be careful with her tactics anyway.

I don't think Temari has enough chakra to continually blow the bugs away from her in all 360 degrees. It takes almost no chakra at all for Shino to send "commands" to his bugs. He can also send the bugs through the hole in the ground and have them "AHA!" her while she's throwing a fan fit.

Originally posted by Q99
Lightning? It's his fire that's an edge. Lightning < Wind < Fire.

He's faster and more able to get in close than Shino, and his fire should let him block her winds.

I do not see how a large fireball, which takes a bit to power up, and is blown in one direction, does anything for Sasuke except make him a target. I would see him letting out a surge of lightning all over his body as a way to null the bugs that land on him, however.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't think Temari has enough chakra to continually blow the bugs away from her in all 360 degrees. It takes almost no chakra at all for Shino to send "commands" to his bugs. He can also send the bugs through the hole in the ground and have them "AHA!" her while she's throwing a fan fit.

Like the others have said, he has a limited amount of bugs, i.e. if she winds a swarm of bugs a lot of them die, a few tries of that and he'd be out, and she's not going to let herself get surrounded.

Conversely she'll be tossing fan swipes at him- he'll need bugs to defend himself, and he doesn't have as good a defense against wind as she does against bugs.

If the two just attack at each other, Temari should win pretty much every time, Shino doesn't have a way to knock away her attacks and her attacks can destroy large amounts of his bugs.

I do not see how a large fireball, which takes a bit to power up, and is blown in one direction, does anything for Sasuke except make him a target. I would see him letting out a surge of lightning all over his body as a way to null the bugs that land on him, however.

When wind hits a fire jutsu, the fire jutsu explodes bigger. At minimum, it'd block a wind attack, and being able to defend against her wind slashes is huge. Sasuke does have different fire jutsu too- like multiple small fireballs (sometimes including kunai), and that sort of thing. With range at least partially countered, speed and melee come in again.

Sasuke doesn't have the control to do that with lightning yet. He only has chidori and no time to make his own jutsu. He doesn't have that (which is a fairly difficult application) until part 2.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
When fighting Ten-Ten she created a massive wind attack by swinging her fan so fast that none of the Genin noticed she was doing it. He can't reach her faster than she can swing her fan.

Where?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Where?

fight starts around 1:40 in. Even Rock Lee, arguably the fastest Genin there, doesn't catch it.

EDIT- I'd forgotten how badly Temari ****s Tenten up in that fight. Oh god. That was a Bleach level beat down.

Cool beans. Too bad for Temari that

1. Sasuke is one of the few people who can see her do that.

2. Sasuke is faster than those shuriken.

3. Sasuke has fire to make wind look down right useless.

Shino's in a bad position for matchups. The best thing against bugs is area effect attacks, of which all but Naruto have out of the possible foes. Temari and Sasuke are pretty smart and better in melee than him in addition to said area attacks, and Gaara is Gaara.

His best chance is facing Naruto.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
[B]Cool beans. Too bad for Temari that

1. Sasuke is one of the few people who can see her do that.

Which is meaningless, as the Sharingan is not going to allow him to move any faster.

2. Sasuke is faster than those shuriken.

Needs to be quantified. And, moving faster than the shuriken does not imply being faster than the fan.

3. Sasuke has fire to make wind look down right useless.

Which 1. Requires handseals, something he will not be fast enough to form before she manages to swing her fan once. And 2. Depends on the fire technique. What fire technique does he have that he can cast quickly and would become stronger by hitting the wind?

Originally posted by Q99
Shino's in a bad position for matchups. The best thing against bugs is area effect attacks, of which all but Naruto have out of the possible foes. Temari and Sasuke are pretty smart and better in melee than him in addition to said area attacks, and Gaara is Gaara.

His best chance is facing Naruto.

Which he would be.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Which is meaningless, as the Sharingan is not going to allow him to move any faster.

Needs to be quantified. And, moving faster than the shuriken does not imply being faster than the fan.

Which 1. Requires handseals, something he will not be fast enough to form before she manages to swing her fan once. And 2. Depends on the fire technique. What fire technique does he have that he can cast quickly and would become stronger by hitting the wind?

It does allow him to see what she is doing though and gives him an edge on her.

Not really. He is faster than Gaara's sand which just as easily would block said shuriken.

Hand seals which are quickly formed. And any of them will do since Temari has only showed such quickness with the bare minimum of wind. Get behind her, kick her, win.

He doesn't have to be faster than the swing, he just needs to get the fire out before the wind hits.

Just making a hand seal and blowing is pretty darn fast for that matter.

What fire technique does he have that he can cast quickly and would become stronger by hitting the wind?

I think all of them get stronger by hitting wind... (though a sufficiently strong wind technique could overwhelm this)

The Phoenix Fire technique is quite fast (the one where he spits out lots of fireballs). I also think he can do his great fireball technique quicker if he doesn't try and maximize the size.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It does allow him to see what she is doing though and gives him an edge on her.

That edge being? He doesn't move fast enough to dodge any of the attacks so seeing his death occur wouldn't help him.

Not really. He is faster than Gaara's sand which just as easily would block said shuriken.

And... what does this have to do with what I said?

Hand seals which are quickly formed.

Proof?

And any of them will do since Temari has only showed such quickness with the bare minimum of wind. Get behind her, kick her, win. [/B]

And, how's he going to get behind her if he can't even get toward her period without being blown back?

That aside, I don't think you guys understand how fire's interaction with wind works. By Kishi's own statement, wind fans fire. It's not as if fire eats the wind or something. So all that would happen if one were to, say, fire a fireball at a gust of wind heading toward you, is that the fireball would ignite that wind and turn the wind heading toward you into a firestorm. It's not like it would make the wind dissipate or bounce back or something. The only thing that can "stop" wind is some kind of physical object or a greater wind. Anything else would just be carried along with it.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican

Proof?

It's a hand seal, it just requires him moving his hands.

Heck, he could run around with his hands in the sealed shape.

Could you provide an instance where fire techniques have overriden wind techniques?

Fire and wind haven't been shown directly clashing much. We did see fire and wind interaction from Kakuzu, though, and see how the fire is majorly amped.

Which fire technique was it where he needed to form only one hand seal? I don't recall. It's been awhile since I've seen Sasuke use a fire jutsu that wasn't amaterasu. x_x

EDIT-

Also, I remember one specific instance where fire and wind clashed.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v26/c229/10.html

Wind won. 313

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Which fire technique was it where he needed to form only one hand seal? I don't recall. It's been awhile since I've seen Sasuke use a fire jutsu that wasn't amaterasu. x_x

The ones he uses definitely don't use a lot, though I don't know how many they have.

Also, I remember one specific instance where fire and wind clashed.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v26/c229/10.html

Wind won. 313

Not a wind-release technique 🙂 I think that was just blasting it back with pure chakra.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That edge being? He doesn't move fast enough to dodge any of the attacks so seeing his death occur wouldn't help him.

And... what does this have to do with what I said?

Proof?

Could you provide an instance where fire techniques have overriden wind techniques?

And, how's he going to get behind her if he can't even get toward her period without being blown back?

He moves at Lee's speed. Temari has shown to be completely in awe of Lee's speed and can barely follow it. 😐

Idk. Temari considers speed absolutely worthless in front of Gaara until proven wrong. And considering the sand moves just as quickly, I'd say that's a fair estimate.

K.

And for good measure.

And he'll get behind her using his vastly superior OMGWTF speed.

Originally posted by Q99
The ones he uses definitely don't use a lot, though I don't know how many they have.

I found one while looking it up. He can fire these little kunai sized fireballs by using just the tiger seal.

Not a wind-release technique 🙂 I think that was just blasting it back with pure chakra.

He uses chakra to scream, creating a massive wind tunnel.

Point being, as you can tell from the sound of the wind howling, it's the wind pushing back and smothering the fire.

Still not a wind release technique.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
[B]He moves at Lee's speed. Temari has shown to be completely in awe of Lee's speed and can barely follow it. 😐

And Lee was in awe of her speed, as shown in my above link. In fact he failed to notice that she'd moved her fan at all.

K.

Gougakyu no jutu.

That requires handseals

And for good measure.

Doesn't say anything about reversing the wind or stopping it. Just says that it makes fire moves stronger. Hence, what I said here,

That aside, I don't think you guys understand how fire's interaction with wind works. By Kishi's own statement, wind fans fire. It's not as if fire eats the wind or something. So all that would happen if one were to, say, fire a fireball at a gust of wind heading toward you, is that the fireball would ignite that wind and turn the wind heading toward you into a firestorm. It's not like it would make the wind dissipate or bounce back or something. The only thing that can "stop" wind is some kind of physical object or a greater wind. Anything else would just be carried along with it.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Still not a wind release technique.