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The Iron Sand and Gold doesn't involve magnetizing opponents at all, and the magnet-shuriken doesn't involve direct control of a substance, rather he charges things (targets and shuriken) which'll then auto-go to each other.

They're different enough that I think they are separate in the same way that Kuro's quicklime lava and Mei's more acidic lava are separate.

It may be the case of the genetics stolen but a completely different style being developed, or it may simply be the case of the elemental combination arising completely independently.

Originally posted by Q99
The Iron Sand and Gold doesn't involve magnetizing opponents at all,

Yes, it's magnetizing "stuff", which was exactly my point.

Originally posted by Q99
and the magnet-shuriken doesn't involve direct control of a substance, rather he charges things (targets and shuriken) which'll then auto-go to each other.

Actually, it does. He controls it once it's magnetized.

Originally posted by Q99
They're different enough that I think they are separate in the same way that Kuro's quicklime lava and Mei's more acidic lava are separate.

I disagree, completely. It's still using magnetism to control "stuff."

That's much different than creating two separate elemental techs: lime versus lava. And the lime is combined with water to quickly "freeze" it in place.

Originally posted by Q99
It may be the case of the genetics stolen but a completely different style being developed, or it may simply be the case of the elemental combination arising completely independently.

It's not a different style: it's a different use of the same tech. It's similar to using water to cool off a forged sword or using water to cool of during the hot summer: it's still using water to cool off.

Unlike the lava which is two completely different element releases...but is labeled the "same."

Actually, it does. He controls it once it's magnetized.

All it says is the magnetized shuriken are attracted to the magnetized target.

That is, he doesn't control them in a pseudo-telekinesis fashion, he instead gives them a homing attribute locked on to other magnetized things. That's why he had to hit them with the initial thrown shuriken barrage first.

Stuff is magnetized, but how the magnetism is used is quite different.

Originally posted by Q99
Stuff is magnetized, but how the magnetism is used is quite different.

And more fail.

Seriously, he sucks.

Itachi pwning like usual.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And more fail.

Seriously, he sucks.

that guy was a bawse

Well "Super Naruto" came to the rescue so we can't say he sucks that much. I mean he was going to kill those two other fodder ninja prior to being Rasengan'd.

And yet the guy was pwned by paper 🙂

I wonder why Itachi didn't cram a crow in Sasuke's throat?

yeah well, technically sk did madara. Anyway, he has balls of steel. he saif phuck you to the second most powerful character's girlfriend, he didn't give half a f**k, he wasn't going to reveal any info period

a true shinobi

heh, the phuck you ninja was resurrected by nagato too, so he can say it to the final villain with a smirk just like last time.

make him the next hokage

XD

WTF Bee, you have a free hand?! 😆 😆 😆

Actually both hands are free.

It kinda looked like he was grabbing the one under his elbow to me.

But that makes it funnier anyway. haermm

Maybe it helps him practice controlling his tentacles or something. Since he has to pay attention to eight blades.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
And more fail.

Seriously, he sucks.

I think it's a pretty nasty ability against most ninja, if he can make you block once then he can toss those big shuriken in groups with no chance of missing.

It's just, y'know, sucky in comparison to the likes of Iron/Gold Sand 🙂

he would have been zabuza level in part one, but now everyone is a god so he looks like ass

Hm, should we rate him? Nice ability but we don't have a lot to go on.

No we shouldn't rate him. He gives us nothing to go by.

Yea. Maybe if we saw him fight those two longer, but just knowing the ability isn't enough.

Ditto the other Kekkei genkai crew- they're obviously dangerous, but how much so is hard to tell.

It's probably a safe bet that they're about B at least. Kabuto is reviving them for being allegedly powerful after all.

Not that it helps us with the specifics but I felt like pointing that tidbit out.

Originally posted by Q99
All it says is the magnetized shuriken are attracted to the magnetized target.

That is, he doesn't control them in a pseudo-telekinesis fashion, he instead gives them a homing attribute locked on to other magnetized things. That's why he had to hit them with the initial thrown shuriken barrage first.

Stuff is magnetized, but how the magnetism is used is quite different.

I don't see how this contradicts what I've stated. He's still controlling stuff with magnetism.

It would be rather easy for him to adjust to use it to "move" stuff. "Baseless." No, not even close. If he can create magnetic fields, he can move stuff exactly the same way gold and iron dust are moved. He'd just have to practice at it. He already has the KG to do so. He just went a different direction.

Contrast this with a giant difference in Lava versus Lime. Those are very dissimilar. Other than them both being "earth"...there's no similarity. I don't mean "well, they are both liquid and earth techs", either.