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lava release is a kekkei genkei ability to mix earth nature and fire nature, the only difference is mei uses it literally to make lava, and kurotsuchi creates lime (earth style) that gets heat activated (fire style) to create the quicklime.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lava release is a kekkei genkei ability to mix earth nature and fire nature, the only difference is mei uses it literally to make lava, and kurotsuchi creates lime (earth style) that gets heat activated (fire style) to create the quicklime.

I know this already.

They are very different. So different that they should not be called "lava release". One should be lime release and the other lava release.

Whereas, with the magnet, it's easy to see why everything is "magnet".

Btw, Jinchuuriki biju control as I see it-

First stage- no control, biju chakra tapped into in life-and-death only, plus any automatic powers (like regen or elemental releases).

Naruto at the start of the series, kid Gaara.

Second stage- Tapping into chakra purposefully. The user can tap into the biju's chakra, but can't manifest tails save in life or death situations.

Naruto for most of part 1.

Third stage (with substages)- Tail control. The user can draw upon full tails worth of chakra, and form a biju cloak, transforming to a version of the biju's form as the tails increase or even allowing the biju's form to fully manifest, but there is a contest of control at any level, and the more drawn upon the harder the contest becomes. As the user progresses through stage three they will be able to handle more tails without losing control to the biju. At any level, the biju still exerts some control.

Gaara in the chunin exams was at this stage, going partially bestial at one-tails and surrendering control fully for a full transformation, Killerbee's Cousin could manage two while retaining control, while Naruto in part 2 was able to go up to three tails before losing control.

Yugito Nii was the furthest jinchuuriki we've seen in stage 3, able to express partial control over even a full biju manifestation (though as said manifestation appeared small for a biju, so it could've been a controlled transformative 2-tail cloak rather than a full manifestation).

Ginkaku and Kinkaku effectively had this level, being able to activate pseudo-6-tail cloak, but they had no biju to contest with.

Forth stage- Total chakra control. The user has overcome and contained the biju and can take any amount of their chakra at will. However, the biju no longer directly participates and the user no longer takes their on aspects of the biju when drawing upon power, whether they want to or not. The biju will absorb the user's chakra in return while this is happening, but the biju has no influence on the user beyond verbal.

Kyuubi-chakra mode Naruto, Mito.

Fifth stages- Complete mastery. The user has the biju completely tamed and can both access the biju's full chakra and transformation, and the biju will no longer try and eat their chakra either.

Killerbee, Yagura.

then you have rikkudou who can pimp slap the ten tails, throw his corpse into space, and then dissect it's chackra up so that when he dies the weaker generation after him can have a chance to look a 1/100 as bawse as he was

We can safely assume he was stage 5, yes 🙂

If Itachi had decided to flip Konoha the bird instead of killing his clan, what would Konoha have done then do ya think? The only one in the village who'd be capable of killing the Uchiha solo would be Hiruzen. Probably.

Civil War I guess. Itachi already knew that the elders intended to wipe out his clan. He'd probably warn them that assassination might come.

Or Danzou would make an offer to Madara for help, secretly give him Kyuubi, and allow him to go to town. He would then threaten to reveal Madara's existence to Hiruzen. Madara was obviously scared of him.vin

Danzo would know about Madara? I thought Itachi was the one who discovered he was still alive? Which would mean Madara would probably help the Uchiha. 😛

You know, I always had a hard time imagining Sasuke's EMS.

This could work.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Danzo would know about Madara? I thought Itachi was the one who discovered he was still alive? Which would mean Madara would probably help the Uchiha. 😛

Hey, I was running with your theory of Madara lying about helping Itachi.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
You know, I always had a hard time imagining Sasuke's EMS.

This could work.

Or something like this. There's less of the black iris in this one, and it keeps Sasuke's 6 point design:

Damn, I really wish Kishi would give Sasuke a showcase of his new abilities like he is doing with Naruto. Though he'll probably just save it for the battle with Naruto.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hey, I was running with your theory of Madara lying about helping Itachi.

Damn, I really wish Kishi would give Sasuke a showcase of his new abilities like he is doing with Naruto. Though he'll probably just save it for the battle with Naruto.

Hey, Itachi could have asked for help and Madara could have said no. 😛

I know right? Actually I think Madara will probably give Sasuke a prep run first. I see him meeting up with Suigetsu and Jugo, who will meet up with Mangetsu and Kimimaro respectively.

I just realized that I like Suigetsu a lot. He is a great foil to Sasuke, if unintentional.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Hey, Itachi could have asked for help and Madara could have said no. 😛

I know right? Actually I think Madara will probably give Sasuke a prep run first. I see him meeting up with Suigetsu and Jugo, who will meet up with Mangetsu and Kimimaro respectively.

I just realized that I like Suigetsu a lot. He is a great foil to Sasuke, if unintentional.

You're fickle, man. vin

That would be pretty kewl. I've always thought that Madara would use Sasuke to pwn Kabutomaru. Would be lulzy too.

Suigetsu's bawss. Puts Karin in her place too oftentimes.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
You're fickle, man. vin

That would be pretty kewl. I've always thought that Madara would use Sasuke to pwn Kabutomaru. Would be lulzy too.

Suigetsu's bawss. Puts Karin in her place too oftentimes.

If fickle is french for sexy, I'm wierded out. Yet strangely flattered.

I indeed would like to see that. Kabuto needs it for being such a poor ally.

So: Kagami Uchiha a candidate for Madara's true identity or no?

^Nice designs, am liking the thrown-up crows eyes too. Its about time that plot came back, though given that Itachi's attack as the enemy would that make the crow a negative thing for Naruto?

Kagami for the looks, name meaning and being with Sarutubi and Danzo during the war?

Not much name meaning. But he does have looks and the connections to particular individuals.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
If fickle is french for sexy, I'm wierded out. Yet strangely flattered.

I indeed would like to see that. Kabuto needs it for being such a poor ally.

So: Kagami Uchiha a candidate for Madara's true identity or no?

I was using its english meaning brah.

Agreed. Maybe even steal his snake techs while he's at it awesome

Would be an asspull, but this is Kishi.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I was using its english meaning brah.

Agreed. Maybe even steal his snake techs while he's at it awesome

Would be an asspull, but this is Kishi.

I like the French meaning better.

Nah. If he has Orochimaru Kusanagi sword though, steal it.

Eh, why? It's not like there aren't hints that he isn't Madara.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I like the French meaning better.

Nah. If he has Orochimaru Kusanagi sword though, steal it.

Eh, why? It's not like there aren't hints that he isn't Madara.

Kay. I used the english meaning because it suits you much better.

He has the Sword of Totsuka though. Why would he need the Kusanagi? awesome

Meh. I don't think Madara is any of those of people. He's probably just the original Madara, but with a different body, plant/wood-type I guess.

Kushina I see as fairly far in level 3.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
then you have rikkudou who can pimp slap the ten tails, throw his corpse into space, and then dissect it's chackra up so that when he dies the weaker generation after him can have a chance to look a 1/100 as bawse as he was

Hm, actually he might be at level 4. If the Juubi was tamed he wouldn't have had to split it up probably.

It might be that it's only possible to get to level 5 with the component biju.

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, Jinchuuriki biju control as I see it-

First stage- no control, biju chakra tapped into in life-and-death only, plus any automatic powers (like regen or elemental releases).

Naruto at the start of the series, kid Gaara.

Second stage- Tapping into chakra purposefully. The user can tap into the biju's chakra, but can't manifest tails save in life or death situations.

Naruto for most of part 1.

Third stage (with substages)- Tail control. The user can draw upon full tails worth of chakra, and form a biju cloak, transforming to a version of the biju's form as the tails increase or even allowing the biju's form to fully manifest, but there is a contest of control at any level, and the more drawn upon the harder the contest becomes. As the user progresses through stage three they will be able to handle more tails without losing control to the biju. At any level, the biju still exerts some control.

Gaara in the chunin exams was at this stage, going partially bestial at one-tails and surrendering control fully for a full transformation, Killerbee's Cousin could manage two while retaining control, while Naruto in part 2 was able to go up to three tails before losing control.

Yugito Nii was the furthest jinchuuriki we've seen in stage 3, able to express partial control over even a full biju manifestation (though as said manifestation appeared small for a biju, so it could've been a controlled transformative 2-tail cloak rather than a full manifestation).

Ginkaku and Kinkaku effectively had this level, being able to activate pseudo-6-tail cloak, but they had no biju to contest with.

Forth stage- Total chakra control. The user has overcome and contained the biju and can take any amount of their chakra at will. However, the biju no longer directly participates and the user no longer takes their on aspects of the biju when drawing upon power, whether they want to or not. The biju will absorb the user's chakra in return while this is happening, but the biju has no influence on the user beyond verbal.

Kyuubi-chakra mode Naruto, Mito.

Fifth stages- Complete mastery. The user has the biju completely tamed and can both access the biju's full chakra and transformation, and the biju will no longer try and eat their chakra either.

Killerbee, Yagura.