The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
In fact, Naruto already said he'd rather die for everyone than have everyone die for him: that's exactly what a Hokage should be thinking especially if we take Minato's and Sarutobi's actions as the comparison.

It was a lame plot point and wasted character development. I saw it as filler. No more pep talks. Everything has been covered.

With what he was shown doing against the Zetsus and right afterwards, I do think that he was trying to do as much as he could by himself. The whole "Saviour of this World" bit may have gotten to his head.

Due of this war, he's gone from "I'm the only one who can stop my BFF Sasuke from murdering everyone I care about," to "I can't sit here on my yellow ass and wait for everyone I care about to die protecting me" to "Since I'm the only one who can stop the Zetsus, I gotta end this war so everyone I care about does not die"

But yeah, that whole Hokage bit was really not needed.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Indeed, but it would be a competition more than teamwork.
I don't see why it won't work nowadays. They still decapitated a Zetsu clone.

Riku can't see it. Blindfold. awesome

But Itachi is supposed to. >.<
And yeah, Kyuubi mode doesn't seem to have any setbacks.

Not really.

Or, third option, since this is the long range division, attack from a long range and don't charge in.

When pressed, I'm sure they'd resort to team-work and helping each other out.
After Bee had just been pwned over and over by Kisame, along with most of his & the Hachibi's chakra being taken away. Bee was piss poor weak then in comparison to his strength now.

Nah. Once he lays his eyes on Sasuke at the start of the match, he won't be using a blindfold, he'll be too enthralled by Sasuke's good looks. vin

PIS trumps all.
Indeed. First we all believed that it was overall weaker than Sage Mode. Sage Mode's obsolete now, especially since Naruto can now use and throw Rasenshurikens, which he isn't supposed to.

Ya rly.

Originally posted by Q99
They are avoiding melee, I'll note.

Now they are. But they're still standing in the open unable to follow simple advice.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When pressed, I'm sure they'd resort to team-work and helping each other out.
After Bee had just been pwned over and over by Kisame, along with most of his & the Hachibi's chakra being taken away. Bee was piss poor weak then in comparison to his strength now.

Nah. Once he lays his eyes on Sasuke at the start of the match, he won't be using a blindfold, he'll be too enthralled by Sasuke's good looks. vin

PIS trumps all.
Indeed. First we all believed that it was overall weaker than Sage Mode. Sage Mode's obsolete now, especially since Naruto can now use and throw Rasenshurikens, which he isn't supposed to.

Ya rly.

Now see, that's a nice scenario. Something pushing both Kakashi and Guy to their limits. Most ninja aren't doing that. :3
Indeed. But then again, are you under the impression that because one party is stronger that means the technique is unusable? 😮

But Riku will smell how evil Sasuke is and kill him.

Even the Uchiha? 😮
Yeah, Sage Mode is completely pointless. At least Sasuke technically has an excuse for not using the MS anymore.

Nah.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
With what he was shown doing against the Zetsus and right afterwards, I do think that he was trying to do as much as he could by himself. The whole "Saviour of this World" bit may have gotten to his head.

So I guess it went to Minato's head and Sarutobi's head, too, huh?

The answer is no. They were doing what they should have been doing: going to the point of oblivion if needed.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Due of this war, he's gone from "I'm the only one who can stop my BFF Sasuke from murdering everyone I care about," to "I can't sit here on my yellow ass and wait for everyone I care about to die protecting me" to "Since I'm the only one who can stop the Zetsus, I gotta end this war so everyone I care about does not die"

But yeah, that whole Hokage bit was really not needed.

Yeah, I agree with this line of reasoning. Naruto's actually doing exactly what a Hokage should do and I quote Sarutobi: he should "put his life on the line" for the village and the people without question.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Yeah, Sage Mode is completely pointless. At least Sasuke technically has an excuse for not using the MS anymore.

Bandages over his eyes due to surgery?

And Sage Mode does have a use- it charges him up and he never needs to worry about stopping unlike with Kyuubi-chakra mode.

Originally posted by Q99
Bandages over his eyes due to surgery?

And Sage Mode does have a use- it charges him up and he never needs to worry about stopping unlike with Kyuubi-chakra mode.

Try eyes over his eyes. 😛

It will stop after a while though.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Now they are. But they're still standing in the open unable to follow simple advice.

Now see, that's a nice scenario. Something pushing both Kakashi and Guy to their limits. Most ninja aren't doing that. :3
Indeed. But then again, are you under the impression that because one party is stronger that means the technique is unusable? 😮

But Riku will smell how evil Sasuke is and kill him.

Even the Uchiha? 😮
Yeah, Sage Mode is completely pointless. At least Sasuke technically has an excuse for not using the MS anymore.

Nah.

Never said to their limits. Just enough to tick them off.
If one party is stronger, the tech's still useable. Though when one party has lost one arm, and the other party in his weakest form is stronger than the first party, yeah, it lowers the potency of the tech a bit, enough for it to be < 1000 YoD. awesome

Riku will be too intoxicated by Sasuke's beauty to notice that he is evil.

More or less I guess. Sasuke is an exception of course, since he's now PIS incarnate. 131
I was under the impression that MS no longer exists for Sasuke. Its now EMS. When he activates the Mangekyou, he'll be using the EMS.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So I guess it went to Minato's head and Sarutobi's head, too, huh?

The answer is no. They were doing what they should have been doing: going to the point of oblivion if needed.

Yeah, I agree with this line of reasoning. Naruto's actually doing exactly what a Hokage should do and I quote Sarutobi: he should "put his life on the line" for the village and the people without question.

Naruto isn't Minato or Sarutobi.

It's just that this time, he seems to want to do it all by himself. It's more a matter of his self-interest rather than his selfishness; he thinks that he's the only one capable on handling Kabuto, Madara, & the rest of the enemies. In all fairness, he was the best person for the job, until Itachi came along.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Never said to their limits. Just enough to tick them off.
If one party is stronger, the tech's still useable. Though when one party has lost one arm, and the other party in his weakest form is stronger than the first party, yeah, it lowers the potency of the tech a bit, enough for it to be < 1000 YoD. awesome

Riku will be too intoxicated by Sasuke's beauty to notice that he is evil.

More or less I guess. Sasuke is an exception of course, since he's now PIS incarnate. 131
I was under the impression that MS no longer exists for Sasuke. Its now EMS. When he activates the Mangekyou, he'll be using the EMS.

Naruto isn't Minato or Sarutobi.

They still wouldn't work together. 😮
It can work with A only having one arm, and it can work with Base Bee being stronger, just needing to lower his power like A used to.

Nah. Riku will be disgusted that Sasuke betrayed his friends. awesome

Indeed.
That was the legitimate excuse I was talking about. 😛

Indeed. Minato>Sarutobi>Naruto.

I like how this chapter basically makes one believe Naruto and Madara have more in common than Madara and Sasuke.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto isn't Minato or Sarutobi.

Really?

Well, while we're at it:

64+6 is not 71.

Yes, I'm being an ***hole. estahuh

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It's just that this time, he seems to want to do it all by himself.

No, he doesn't want to do it all himself. He wants to save as many lives as he can WITH Bee.

He seemed to take advice from both Itachi and Nagato, as well.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
It's more a matter of his self-interest rather than his selfishness;

You kind of have that wrong.

You need to rephrase that to this:

"It's a matter of him being selfless, but being smart about it is what it's really about."

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
he thinks that he's the only one capable on handling Kabuto, Madara, & the rest of the enemies. In all fairness, he was the best person for the job, until Itachi came along.

Troof.

The look at the Mizukage's face as that attack passes through him is priceless. He seriously looks so sad that they suck so bad. It actually looks like he might want to kill them.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
They still wouldn't work together. 😮
It can work with A only having one arm, and it can work with Base Bee being stronger, just needing to lower his power like A used to.

Nah. Riku will be disgusted that Sasuke betrayed his friends. awesome

Indeed.
That was the legitimate excuse I was talking about. 😛

Indeed. Minato>Sarutobi>Naruto.

I like how this chapter basically makes one believe Naruto and Madara have more in common than Madara and Sasuke.

They'd work together nearly as much as A & B would now. 😛
Needing to lower his power tremendously, if he's more powerful in Base Mode than the strongest version of A there is.

Nah, Riku will tell Sasuke about how he himself betrayed his friends once, thus trying to establish a relationship. vin

Well, given the context of the discussion and the way you worded it, I thought you meant that Sasuke could somehow use both MS and EMS now. 😛

I'm inclined to agree. But if we're talking about all Hokages, even potential ones: Minato > Tobirama > Kakashi > Old Man Sarutobi > Konohamaru > Hashirama > Tsunade > Naruto. Of course, Itachi > all, so Itachi > Minato > Tobirama >.....Naruto. excellent

New plot twist: Naruto beats Madara. Madara then uses Kotoamatsukami on Naruto to "Control everything and become me". It is then revealed that the original Madara did this to Hashirama, thus ensuring that the world always has a Madara from now on. Seeing as Sasuke is under "Follow Madara", he'll now follow Naruto, who is Madara v3. awesome

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

The look at the Mizukage's face as that attack passes through him is priceless. He seriously looks so sad that they suck so bad. It actually looks like he might want to kill them.

His expressions usually are always ossum.

Seriously though, those ninjas are attacking what they can see, despite him telling them to attack something that cannot be seen. It's all hilarious, but if I were just standing around waiting for a bunch of idiots who fail miserably when trying to put me down, I'd get pissed off too.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Really?

Well, while we're at it:

64+6 is not 71.

Yes, I'm being an ***hole. estahuh

Difference is that you weren't using 71 & 72 to justify 70. ahah

Originally posted by dadudemon
No, he doesn't want to do it all himself. He wants to save as many lives as he can WITH Bee.

He seemed to take advice from both Itachi and Nagato, as well.

That's probably why he's sending his Shadow Clones in Kyuubi Mode to all the battlefields, amirite?

That's probably because Nagato, while standing still, was able to subdue them both very easily.
In addition, he did not really work with Bee in the two previous battles he had, or the one he had right now, at least until Itachi saved him & Bee from Nagato.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You kind of have that wrong.

You need to rephrase that to this:

"It's a matter of him being selfless, but being smart about it is what it's really about."

Selfless works, but I'd use headstrong instead of smart. Naruto isn't known to be smart. 313

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
They'd work together nearly as much as A & B would now. 😛
Needing to lower his power tremendously, if he's more powerful in Base Mode than the strongest version of A there is.

Nah, Riku will tell Sasuke about how he himself betrayed his friends once, thus trying to establish a relationship. vin

Well, given the context of the discussion and the way you worded it, I thought you meant that Sasuke could somehow use both MS and EMS now. 😛

I'm inclined to agree. But if we're talking about all Hokages, even potential ones: Minato > Tobirama > Kakashi > Old Man Sarutobi > Konohamaru > Hashirama > Tsunade > Naruto. Of course, Itachi > all, so Itachi > Minato > Tobirama >.....Naruto. excellent

New plot twist: Naruto beats Madara. Madara then uses Kotoamatsukami on Naruto to "Control everything and become me". It is then revealed that the original Madara did this to Hashirama, thus ensuring that the world always has a Madara from now on. Seeing as Sasuke is under "Follow Madara", he'll now follow Naruto, who is Madara v3. awesome

Seriously though, those ninjas are attacking what they can see, despite him telling them to attack something that cannot be seen. It's all hilarious, but if I were just standing around waiting for a bunch of idiots who fail miserably when trying to put me down, I'd get pissed off too.

A and Bee are Kumo's strongest duo. Of course they'll be working together more. aweseom

Or just not go Hachibi?

Nah, Riku hates himself. Sasuke is like Riku. So Riku will hate Sasuke, who hates everything.

Nah, you just fail at understanding the obvious.

Nah, Minato>Itachi. awesome

I kinda like the idea but it's not possible. Would be cool if Koto was used on Naruto to make him the villain.

Wonder why the Edo Tensei isn't making him attack?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
A and Bee are Kumo's strongest duo. Of course they'll be working together more. aweseom

Or just not go Hachibi?

Nah, Riku hates himself. Sasuke is like Riku. So Riku will hate Sasuke, who hates everything.

Nah, you just fail at understanding the obvious.

Nah, Minato>Itachi. awesome

I kinda like the idea but it's not possible. Would be cool if Koto was used on Naruto to make him the villain.

Wonder why the Edo Tensei isn't making him attack?

Or maybe now they won't, seeing as A does not like people who kick his ass. awesome

Riku may hate himself, but he won't hate Sasuke due to the awesomeness of Raiton Keyblade no jutsu, and Sasuke's good looks. He'll love him instead. vin

Or you fail at properly conveying the obvious. Or we both fail. srug

Impossible, seeing as Itachi is definitely > Minato. 131

Maybe it or a similar tech was used on Sasuke?

If he's a mirage, then maybe he is attacking. We just can't see it yet.

****. I enjoy talking to you but our conversations get really freaking big every damn time. >.>

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Or maybe now they won't, seeing as A does not like people who kick his ass. awesome

Riku may hate himself, but he won't hate Sasuke due to the awesomeness of Raiton Keyblade no jutsu, and Sasuke's good looks. He'll love him instead. vin

Or you fail at properly conveying the obvious. Or we both fail. srug

Impossible, seeing as Itachi is definitely > Minato. 131

Maybe it or a similar tech was used on Sasuke?

If he's a mirage, then maybe he is attacking. We just can't see it yet.

But he loves Bee. <3

Riku will be blindfolded and thus will not see those things. 😮

We both fail.

Minato takes responsibility for his actions, putting him >Itachi. 313

Eh, a technique used on Sasuke makes more sense than one used on Hashirama.

Or maybe he is just chilling?

Double Post but I don't care.

Something about Itachi in this chapter is bugging me. For one, he is certainly partially responsible for Sasuke's behavior but he won't go see him. Him giving a speech to Naruto about not handling things by himself and him leaving Sasuke to Naruto kind of contradicts itself.

I just read this chapter and I agree with Aura about Itachi's contradicting speech. He wants to help his brother see the light but is making Naruto do the work...as if he didn't have anthing else better to do.

Then Kabuto blames Nagato for his crappy control over his own jutsu. That pissed me off a little even if Nagato's lame.

Oh...and since Temari kind of pwned A's dad and the 3rd Raikage is implied to be better or as good as A. Does that mean Temari>>>>A?

And "Super Naruto" returns...however this makes me wonder what the hell happened to the clones he made.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
****. I enjoy talking to you but our conversations get really freaking big every damn time. >.>

But he loves Bee. <3

Riku will be blindfolded and thus will not see those things. 😮

We both fail.

Minato takes responsibility for his actions, putting him >Itachi. 313

Eh, a technique used on Sasuke makes more sense than one used on Hashirama.

Or maybe he is just chilling?

Who's to blame? Fine, I'll try to keep it short.

'Loved'. 313

Then Riku is lured by the sound of Sasuke's voice. vin

He didn't take responsibility for failing to kill Madaravin

But a tech used on Hashirama still makes some sense.

Dunno. But the possibility for him to attack exists.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
****. I enjoy talking to you but our conversations get really freaking big every damn time. >.>

and kishi needs to do something with that kage fight, right now he's just wasting pages showing them horse around without any substantial events occurring. mizukage sucks imo. he makes haku look like a rabid dog. bloody mist my ass (pause x2)

To be fair, the "Bloody Mist" moniker was IIRC only gained after Madara usurped control of the village.

Also, he has no dogs in this race. He may be merciless to his enemies, but he's not fighting his enemies. About the only one here he wants to see (re-)dead is Muu.