The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by dadudemon
I believe you: She can totes dodge an attack that she can NOT:

1. Predict.
2. Detect.
3. Counter.

1. Well, he is not in front of me. Clearly he plans to attack. So I should put up my guard or enter paper mode to avoid said attack.

2. Minato would disagree.

3. He'll be solid if he attacks her so it's very easy to counter. Especially with suicide bombs he isn't expecting.

Originally posted by dadudemon
It does: Konan's strength is dependent upon Madara's CIS turning PIS.

If making large amounts of damage were the only requirements for S class, pretty much anyone could be S class with the prep time she had.

lol no.

You remember when Naruto beat up Kakuzu real good because Kakuzu's intelligence was reduced because the plot demanded it? Now, does that mean that Rasenshuriken is a weak technique? No? Kay.

It's not the damage she caused(she really didn't cause any except to Madara) but the size and duration of the technique that makes Konan impressive.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's a whole bunch of words that mean absolutely nothing to the words I posted.

You just proved my point that Madara is uber fast. You just helped prove my point that Madara's fight with Konan absolutely required CIS from Madara.

A guy punches through a ghost. Did the ghost react? No. He didn't need to.

CIS that is perfectly in character for Madara. So....not that bad.

Here's a question. If Madara can become completely intangible, why doesn't he fall through the ground/whatever he's standing on whenever he uses it when he's standing on something? mmm
Or can he control which part of his body becomes intangible?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Here's a question. If Madara can become completely intangible, why doesn't he fall through the ground/whatever he's standing on whenever he uses it when he's standing on something? mmm

Madara can hover. He can do it in mid-air too, we've seen.

Meaning when he's intangible but standing on something? He's actually faking it.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah, Ebisu, Jiraiya & Hiruzen were all beaten by one genin. 😛
Or it counts as killing two heart monsters and him.

Excuses excuses. Dying in an awesome way doesn't change the fact that he died, and that the Sound 4 > Genins. 😛

He's Sasuke. He won't have to sacrifice his eye.

Are you humble or do you have low self-esteem? If the former, meh, fine, I'll concede or say you are Killerbee or Haku, if the latter, then you're Hinata. 😛
Meh, hard to prove this until the situation comes up anyway.
He didn't kill Karin. He knew Sakura was coming and wanted to rope her in, and he wanted Karin to infiltrate Konoha. awesome

Nah. Ebisu was beaten by a genin. Jiraiya and Hiruzen were beaten by a host. ^^
It didn't kill him. Kakashi did that. 😮

The Sound 4 were beaten by Genin, therefore they're <Genin.

No Senju cells?

Both. Like Minato. 😮
It hasn't unfortunately.
That would be a cool twist too. You're on a roll!

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Here's a question. If Madara can become completely intangible, why doesn't he fall through the ground/whatever he's standing on whenever he uses it when he's standing on something? mmm
Or can he control which part of his body becomes intangible?

Pretty sure he can control which parts are intangible.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nah. Ebisu was beaten by a genin. Jiraiya and Hiruzen were beaten by a host. ^^
It didn't kill him. Kakashi did that. 😮

The Sound 4 were beaten by Genin, therefore they're <Genin.

No Senju cells?

Both. Like Minato. 😮
It hasn't unfortunately.
That would be a cool twist too. You're on a roll!

Pretty sure he can control which parts are intangible.

Nah. Jiraiya, Hiruzen and Ebisu were all beaten by a genin, who happens to be a host, a useless one at the time.
Yep, after Naruto did half the work as he destroyed two hearts that could have been used to resurrect Kakuzu.

Kay I'll use this logic. Jounin were beaten by the Sound 4. Genin > Sound 4 > Jounin.

Uchiha > Senju. Senju cells are overwanked. Hashirama's cells are the ones that matter.

Nah. Humility and low self-esteem are different.
I know. When such shituations come up, hard to think clearly at times.
Hmm, I think I'm sensing sarcasm.

Then couldn't he just make his entire torso intangible, and his head solid for the porting?

Originally posted by Q99
Madara can hover. He can do it in mid-air too, we've seen.

Meaning when he's intangible but standing on something? He's actually faking it.

He can hover?

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's completely unnecessary to my point, though. Why does he need to be porting to show that he's so fast that he can almost keep up with Minato?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Here's a question. If Madara can become completely intangible, why doesn't he fall through the ground/whatever he's standing on whenever he uses it when he's standing on something? mmm
Or can he control which part of his body becomes intangible?

Exactly, listen to the Kandy.

He keeps having to revert to the fast-phasing because slow-teleporting would get him killed.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He can hover?

Remember when he's floating over the paper chasm?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Nah. Jiraiya, Hiruzen and Ebisu were all beaten by a genin, who happens to be a host, a useless one at the time.
Yep, after Naruto did half the work as he destroyed two hearts that could have been used to resurrect Kakuzu.

Kay I'll use this logic. Jounin were beaten by the Sound 4. Genin > Sound 4 > Jounin.

Uchiha > Senju. Senju cells are overwanked. Hashirama's cells are the ones that matter.

Nah. Humility and low self-esteem are different.
I know. When such shituations come up, hard to think clearly at times.
Hmm, I think I'm sensing sarcasm.

Then couldn't he just make his entire torso intangible, and his head solid for the porting?

Nah. Clearly you don't get it. 😛
Meaning that is what he killed. Not Kakuzu.

You expect Jonin to go all out against kids?! You monster! D:

lol that doesn't change the fact that they're needed for Izanagi.

Of course. But that doesn't make them incompatible.
Indeed. So natural instinct will prevail!
Nah, they're compliments. Feel loved.

Nah. I think he needs to be completely solid to port.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Nah. Clearly you don't get it. 😛
Meaning that is what he killed. Not Kakuzu.

You expect Jonin to go all out against kids?! You monster! D:

lol that doesn't change the fact that they're needed for Izanagi.

Of course. But that doesn't make them incompatible.
Indeed. So natural instinct will prevail!
Nah, they're compliments. Feel loved.

Nah. I think he needs to be completely solid to port.

Naruto beat all of them though. 😛
Dude, if the hearts can resurrect a dead Kakuzu, destroying two hearts counts as killing him twice. Same deal with Izanagi which rewrites death.

Well, if they're going to get their asses kicked, yeah.

It's an Uchiha kinjutsu. Hashirama's cells are needed to extend the duration of the jutsu most likely.

It does more or less.
Yeah, but the natural instinct of humans is to survive. That's why regular humans run and scream when in danger.
I'd glomp you, but that's prolly not a good idea.

Or he cannot turn individual parts of his body intangible.

Originally posted by Q99
He keeps having to revert to the fast-phasing because slow-teleporting would get him killed.

Remember when he's floating over the paper chasm?

Kind of. It's only slow when he has to port himself. Otherwise, it's fast. He was confident that he could warp Minato, and he warped an explosion.

You mean when he started moving down into the chasm? That's not floating, that's falling.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Magic. Or maybe his body becomes massless while intangible.

Magic is more likely. How would he control his movements while massless?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Kind of. It's only slow when he has to port himself. Otherwise, it's fast. He was confident that he could warp Minato, and he warped an explosion.

He did say that the larger the thing being ported, the longer it takes. And when trying to port Konan's explosion he did lose an arm, so there's an issue there. Warping explosions doesn't seem to be a good idea in general.

While Madara thought he could get Minato, Minato did escape the first time he tried, and Konan was able to detonate bombs in response. I suspect the biggest difficulty for most would be managing an attack while partially warped, it doesn't seem like one can do much while being transferred.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Naruto beat all of them though. 😛
Dude, if the hearts can resurrect a dead Kakuzu, destroying two hearts counts as killing him twice. Same deal with Izanagi which rewrites death.

Well, if they're going to get their asses kicked, yeah.

It's an Uchiha kinjutsu. Hashirama's cells are needed to extend the duration of the jutsu most likely.

It does more or less.
Yeah, but the natural instinct of humans is to survive. That's why regular humans run and scream when in danger.
I'd glomp you, but that's prolly not a good idea.

Or he cannot turn individual parts of his body intangible.

So?
The hearts do not work in the same way as Izanagi. 😮

They didn't know they were. 😛

Nah.

I'm humble and I don't have a particularly high self esteem. So...debunked.
You can glomp if you want.

Debunked.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
So?
The hearts do not work in the same way as Izanagi. 😮

They didn't know they were. 😛

Nah.

I'm humble and I don't have a particularly high self esteem. So...debunked.
You can glomp if you want.

Debunked.

So Ebisu somehow 'lost' to 'some genin' while Jiraiya & Sarutobi 'lost' to a 'host' despite the fact that they all 'lost' to the same person?
Never said they did. Just that in order for resurrection to happen, the person has to be dead.

They would have figured that out a minute or two into the fight. 😛

Madara's overwanking the Senju cells there. 😛

Or at times you think you are humble, but really have low self-esteem at that point, or vice versa at other times. The two are mutually exclusive.

You realize that he went through pretty much all of Madara as well Sasuke don't you. 😐

Originally posted by Q99
He did say that the larger the thing being ported, the longer it takes. And when trying to port Konan's explosion he did lose an arm, so there's an issue there. Warping explosions doesn't seem to be a good idea in general.

While Madara thought he could get Minato, Minato did escape the first time he tried, and Konan was able to detonate bombs in response. I suspect the biggest difficulty for most would be managing an attack while partially warped, it doesn't seem like one can do much while being transferred.

I don't really recall him stating that larger things take longer to port, but it makes sense. All I recall is Konan stating that he takes longer to port himself, than he does for other things.
True, but that's likely because he was porting himself at the same time or something. He stated that he swallowed the whole explosion.

It was the only time he tried. After that is when Madara stated that he would warp Minato the instant he laid his hand on him.
Yeah, Torune infected his arm too.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Kind of. It's only slow when he has to port himself. Otherwise, it's fast. He was confident that he could warp Minato, and he warped an explosion.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So Ebisu somehow 'lost' to 'some genin' while Jiraiya & Sarutobi 'lost' to a 'host' despite the fact that they all 'lost' to the same person?
Never said they did. Just that in order for resurrection to happen, the person has to be dead.

They would have figured that out a minute or two into the fight. 😛

Madara's overwanking the Senju cells there. 😛

Or at times you think you are humble, but really have low self-esteem at that point, or vice versa at other times. The two are mutually exclusive.

You realize that he went through pretty much all of Madara as well Sasuke don't you. 😐

Quite.
Said resurrection didn't happen though. 😛

Well by then it's too late. 😮

Nah.

If I'm able to be both, that wouldn't make them exclusive.

"Having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance. "

Doesn't seem like it couldn't go with low self esteem. 😛

Actually the anime implies that Madara sorta side stepped him, which requires tangible feet, thus meaning Raikage didn't touch Sasuke. Besides, how could Madara hold Sasuke if he was intangible? 😮

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Quite.
Said resurrection didn't happen though. 😛

Well by then it's too late. 😮

Nah.

If I'm able to be both, that wouldn't make them exclusive.

"Having or showing a modest or low estimate of one's own importance. "

Doesn't seem like it couldn't go with low self esteem. 😛

Actually the anime implies that Madara sorta side stepped him, which requires tangible feet, thus meaning Raikage didn't touch Sasuke. Besides, how could Madara hold Sasuke if he was intangible? 😮

Man, you suck donkey balls for thinking like that. Face it, Ebisu = Jiraiya and Sarutobi. 😛
Indeed, because Naruto took out his remaining hearts.

Nah, not if it is Jounins up against kids. 😛

Yah.

Or you are just wrong and they are in fact exclusive. 😛
"Humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less."
That right there is the difference between low self esteem and humility.

Nope, watch it carefully, and you'll see that Raikage goes straight through Madara & Sasuke. It just seems like he side-stepped because there's some sort of image displacement going on.
In addition, he can make parts of his body intangible, but needs his entire body solid as opposed to just his head, to use his porting? Makes less sense.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Man, you suck donkey balls for thinking like that. Face it, Ebisu = Jiraiya and Sarutobi. 😛
Indeed, because Naruto took out his remaining hearts.

Nah, not if it is Jounins up against kids. 😛

Yah.

Or you are just wrong and they are in fact exclusive. 😛
"Humility is not thinking less of yourself, but thinking of yourself less."
That right there is the difference between low self esteem and humility.

Nope, watch it carefully, and you'll see that Raikage goes straight through Madara & Sasuke. It just seems like he side-stepped because there's some sort of image displacement going on.
In addition, he can make parts of his body intangible, but needs his entire body solid as opposed to just his head, to use his porting? Makes less sense.

Ranks disagree. vin
And not Kakuzu. awesome

Nah, too late.

Nah.

Where did ya get that definition? 😮
And no, they are not exclusive. People with low self esteem might not easily accept compliments, meaning they're being humble.

Really? Didn't look like it. But whatevars. And yeah, he needs his whole body to port. However, since he can stand while someone attacks a part of his body, it clearly means he can decide which parts of his body is intangible.

Sakura's explanation also helps.

Favorite jutsu?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Ranks disagree. vin
And not Kakuzu. awesome

Nah, too late.

Nah.

Where did ya get that definition? 😮
And no, they are not exclusive. People with low self esteem might not easily accept compliments, meaning they're being humble.

Really? Didn't look like it. But whatevars. And yeah, he needs his whole body to port. However, since he can stand while someone attacks a part of his body, it clearly means he can decide which parts of his body is intangible.

Sakura's explanation also helps.

Jiraiya's a Jounin though. vin
Kakuzu's hearts revive Kakuzu. 313

For most, but not Jounin.

Yah.

It's not a definition, but a quote; one of C.S. Lewis' apparently.
People with low self-esteem too would have some trouble accepting compliments. They'd need to hear it a number of times to accept it. They need reassurance.

Konan states that Madara's intangibility is an all or nothing kind of thing though.
Sakura's explanation implies that he's porting away parts of his body. We know that's not the case.