The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

Then kill them with characters like the Mizukage or Muu, who're essentially invisible enemies.

I would think until they deploy their moves, they'd be more-or-less hidden among the troops. And there's probably redundant squads of them.

Also with the Kage battle, Gaara's one of the sealers too.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Well....Fu was killed. He had a name. awesome

Neither of them have shown interest in blondes. 😮

I don't either. But I can see Madara confronting Naruto before his fight with Sasuke, Naruto using the Bijuu ball as a last resort but it is weaker than normal, and then Madara retreating. And yes, if Sasuke is not redeemed I will be mad. He is the ultimate challenge for Naruto and if our hero can't overcome it, that's a downer ending.

And it did end up breaking. vin

Not a part of the army, and not really one of the good guys. And how can you mention Fu and not Torune???

You've shown an unhealthy interest (read: obsession 😛) with Minato, and Minato has shown one in Naruto. vin

I actually don't see him confronting Naruto just before Sasuke faces him. Well, on second thought, if Sasuke is now a loose cannon with no loyalty to Madara, then yeah, I guess Madara would confront him.
Indeed. Even Kyuubi is an easier target to redeem than Sasuke ever was. awesome

I know. Raikage was just too rough with his finger. vin

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I wonder why Kabuto doesn't just directly attack the sealing squad so they'll be totally screwed.

I get the impression he can only use 100% control on a few at a time.

Originally posted by Q99
I get the impression he can only use 100% control on a few at a time.

Agreed. By definition it seems in doing so he is literally then having to pour 100% of his focus on that specific person. Leaving him largely blind to most other goings on.

Not really preferable.

Btw, 'rubber' seems the weakest lava release yet (Roshi- actual lava. Terumi- Acid blobs. Kurotsuchi- Quicklime spray)

Any opinions on Dodai's strength?

Also, considering 2nd Mizukage's apparently solidly beating Gaara, S+ for him?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Not a part of the army, and not really one of the good guys. And how can you mention Fu and not Torune???

You've shown an unhealthy interest (read: obsession 😛) with Minato, and Minato has shown one in Naruto. vin

I actually don't see him confronting Naruto just before Sasuke faces him. Well, on second thought, if Sasuke is now a loose cannon with no loyalty to Madara, then yeah, I guess Madara would confront him.
Indeed. Even Kyuubi is an easier target to redeem than Sasuke ever was. awesome

I know. Raikage was just too rough with his finger. vin

Because one is technically not dead. 😛

It comes across that way? 😮

Sasuke was never loyal to Madara. vin

Busted Dodai's ball in half being so rough.

Originally posted by Q99
I get the impression he can only use 100% control on a few at a time.

That doesn't help to explain why he is choosing to take the free will from the Seven Swordsmen and not the actually strong gais. 😛

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, 'rubber' seems the weakest lava release yet (Roshi- actual lava. Terumi- Acid blobs. Kurotsuchi- Quicklime spray)

Any opinions on Dodai's strength?

Also, considering 2nd Mizukage's apparently solidly beating Gaara, S+ for him?

Dodai seems pretty solid. A+ sound okay? Cause he doesn't appear stronger than Darui.

And heck yeah Mizukage is S+. Genjutsu is haxxed like crazy. And he is beating up Gaara, who is a strong S class.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Because one is technically not dead. 😛

It comes across that way? 😮

Sasuke was never loyal to Madara. vin

Busted Dodai's ball in half being so rough.

And heck yeah Mizukage is S+. Genjutsu is haxxed like crazy. And he is beating up Gaara, who is a strong S class.

Eh, Torune's dead and now a Zombie. Fu's dead as well.

Mos Def. vin

Yet he mostly did what Madara told him to do. vin

I think you ruined the joke man. 🙁

We don't know the exact specifics. For all we know, Gaara could be at a major disadvantage against his style. S for now IMO. You are just letting your erection for Mizukage cloud your judgement, whereas I am not. awesome

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, 'rubber' seems the weakest lava release yet (Roshi- actual lava. Terumi- Acid blobs. Kurotsuchi- Quicklime spray)

Any opinions on Dodai's strength?

Also, considering 2nd Mizukage's apparently solidly beating Gaara, S+ for him?

Seems pretty strong to me, considering that it held up for a bit against the Raikage's best jutsu.
Kurotsuchi's quicklime is what seems weakest to me, considering it needs Water to be used properly, and can only trap people. That said, Lava Release is damn versatile. I wonder if Dodai could learn Acid Blobs or others could use the rubber themed jutsus.

A+ like Aura said.

I guess so, though S would be good enough for now until we see what he can actually do next chapter. He's pretty hax with his clam, but that's all we know.

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, 'rubber' seems the weakest lava release yet (Roshi- actual lava. Terumi- Acid blobs. Kurotsuchi- Quicklime spray)

Any opinions on Dodai's strength?

Also, considering 2nd Mizukage's apparently solidly beating Gaara, S+ for him?

Doesn't Mei sort of have lava, not as intense as Roshi's, as well. It's more like Kurotsuchi's however it does appear to burn somewhat.

Dodai could be S- or A+ if the former seems to high.

Yes...he's earned S+. Although I though he already had that considering he killed Muu and stuff.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
That doesn't help to explain why he is choosing to take the free will from the Seven Swordsmen and not the actually strong gais. 😛

Dodai seems pretty solid. A+ sound okay? Cause he doesn't appear stronger than Darui.

Cause Kabuto's typical lameness isn't enough to completely make the Seven Swordsman lame. He has to put effort in making them lame 😄

He seems pretty competent enough to be S- although A+ is understandable too.

What, *that* high on Dodai? He's smart and rubber's pretty good, but I was thinking like B+ or A-, or maybe A (sorta Cloud's Shikaku Nara).

I mean, his jutsu used are pretty strong but not major uber, at least from what we've seen.

Well Dodoi does't really have major combat feats so I'd settle for A or A+. A- seems a bit low for him....IMO

But the 2nd Mizukage has a giant clam. On top of that Kabuto lameness hasn't affected him yet.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Mos Def. vin

Yet he mostly did what Madara told him to do. vin

I think you ruined the joke man. 🙁

We don't know the exact specifics. For all we know, Gaara could be at a major disadvantage against his style. S for now IMO. You are just letting your erection for Mizukage cloud your judgement, whereas I am not. awesome

If I pleasure myself to Kushina or some other female, will that counter balance it? mmm

Because it's what he wanted to do.

🙁

Well, I've only ever seen Gaara at a disadvantage to speed. Or intelligence. And not really. He did kill Muu so it's only reasonable to assume the two are close in terms of strength. 😛

Originally posted by Q99
What, *that* high on Dodai? He's smart and rubber's pretty good, but I was thinking like B+ or A-, or maybe A (sorta Cloud's Shikaku Nara).

I mean, his jutsu used are pretty strong but not major uber, at least from what we've seen.

He has more going for him than Shikaku though. His rubber style is pretty good and powerful, and Dodai does have some nice speed and intelligence feats. Plus, some telekinetic power.

Want to break even and say A? mmm

^^ They are pretty strong defensively though. A large Earth wall was penetrated with ease, but a rubber layer stood up to the same attack until the Raikage made it stronger.

Plus Dodai's fast. Can't see Dodai being anything lower than A if Kurotsuchi's in A.

Ok, yea, you've convinced me on A.

His power seems very strong defensively, and he was quick with that substitution. The KG doesn't seem like it'd lend itself to offense, but it's still solid.

Hm... Kurotsuchi seems the closest analog, really. Both skilled kekkei genkai users with limited appearances.

Plus, some telekinetic power.

Wait, TK? Maybe I missed something, where's that?

Originally posted by Q99
I get the impression he can only use 100% control on a few at a time.

Originally posted by Q99
Ok, yea, you've convinced me on A.

His power seems very strong defensively, and he was quick with that substitution. The KG doesn't seem like it'd lend itself to offense, but it's still solid.

Hm... Kurotsuchi seems the closest analog, really. Both skilled kekkei genkai users with limited appearances.

Wait, TK? Maybe I missed something, where's that?

I personally think Kurotsuchi is stronger at the moment than him but whatever. 😛

Well, how else could he have gotten in touch with Inoichi? 😛

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I personally think Kurotsuchi is stronger at the moment than him but whatever. 😛

Yea, I do too, but there is some room in the ranks.

Well, how else could he have gotten in touch with Inoichi? 😛

Oh, telepathy!

Hm, yea, he might have that, which'd reinforce the A rank. I suspect it's mostly on Inoichi's end, him simply having a means of drawing attention, being a commander and all.

So tired I can't even remember the word telepathy. xD

But yeah, I'll concede Inoichi is doing the real work. But it helps for a communication support technique. Without him, the Raikage would have won. 😛

So Dodoi's A now? Okay then.

But I do wonder exactly how Temari was able to damage the 3rd Raikage while Naruto wasn't...at least not with his jutsu.

Stats:

SS-
Nagato (Pain or Solo)

S+
Itachi Uchiha
Killerbee
Madara Uchiha (Sharingan only)
Minato Namikaze
Mito Uzumaki
Muu
Naruto Uzumaki (Kyuubi chakra mode)
Onoki
Second Mizukage
Third Raikage

S
A (Raikage)
Danzo (with implant jutsu)
Deidara
Deva Path (Yahiko/Pain)
Gaara (Kage)
Hiruzen Sarutobi (Old)
Jiraiya
Kakashi Hatake (Mastered Kamui)
Kakuzu
Kisame Hoshigaki (with Samehada)
Konan*
Kushina Uzumaki
Mei Terumi
Naruto Uzumaki (Sage Mode)
Orochimaru*
Sandaime Kazekage (3rd)
Sasori
Sasuke Uchiha (Orochimaru merge/mangekyo)
Tsunade
Yondaime Kazekage (4th)
Yugito Nii

S-
Chiyo
Danzo (without implant jutsu)
Darui
Ginkaku
Hidan
Kabuto* (Orochimaru merge)
Kakashi Hatake (start of part 2)
Kimimaro Kaguya (healthy)
Kinkaku
Kisame Hoshigaki (without Samehada)
Kitsuchi
Mifune
Might Gai (part 2)
Sasuke Uchiha (start of part 2)
Shisui Uchiha

*These characters have jutsu that require specific preparation that can't be done mid combat but increase their ability significantly, such as Edo Tensei or readying unusual amounts of explosive tags.

A+
Animal Path (Pain)
Asuma Sarutobi
Asura Path (Pain)
Hiashi Hyuuga
Kabuto Yakushi
Kakashi Hatake (part 1)
Kimimaro Kaguya (sick)
Might Gai (part 1)
Yamato
Zabuza Momochi

A
Ao
Baki
C
Dodai
Fū (ANBU)
Hizashi Hyuuga
Human Path (Pain)
Jūgo
Kankurō (with Sasori puppet)
Killer Bee (Young, Minato fight)
Kurenai Yuhi
Kurotsuchi
Naruto Uzumaki (post elemental training)
Neji Hyuuga (part 2)
Sasori (Sans puppet arsenal)
Shikaku Nara
Suigetsu Hōzuki
Torune

A-
Chōjūrō
Chōji Akimichi (Asuma Fight)
Chōza Akimichi
Gaara (Sasuke Retrieval)
Inoichi Yamanaka
Kakko (Kakashi Gaiden)
Naruto Uzumaki (start of part 2)
Preta Path (Pain)
Sai (post-emotions)
Shibi Aburame
Shizune
Temari (start of part 2)

B+
Anko Mitarashi
Ibiki Morino
Ittan
Kakashi Hatake (Kakashi Gaiden)
Kankurō (as of Sasori fight)
Naraka Path (Pain)
Naruto Uzumaki (One Tail)
Rock Lee (part 2)
Sai (start)
Sakura Haruno (part 2)
Sasuke Uchiha (VotE)

B
Gaara (Chuunin Exam)
Haku
Ino Yamanaka (4th Shinobi War)
Kankurō (Sasuke Retrieval)
Omoi
Sakon/Ukon
Shino Aburame (part 2)
Shikamaru Nara (part 2)
Taiseki (Kakashi Gaiden)
Temari (Sasuke Retrieval)
Tsume Inuzuka

B-
Aoba Yamashiro
Chōji Akimichi (start of part 2)
Hayate Gekkō
Hinata Hyuuga (part 2)
Jirōbō
Kiba Inazuka (part 2)
Kidōmaru
Neji Hyuuga (Sasuke Retrieval)
Shin
Tayuya
Tenten (Part 2)

C+
Ebisu
Ino Yamanaka (start of part 2)
Karin
Naruto Uzumaki (Post Rasengan Training)
Neji Hyuga (Chunin exam)
Rock Lee (Chunin exam)
Sasuke Uchiha (Chunin exam finals)
Shikamaru Nara (Sasuke Retrieval)
Temari (Chunin exam)
White Zetsu Clone

C
Dosu
Iruka
Izumo Kamizuki
Kankuro (Chunin exam)
Konohamaru Sarutobi (part 2)
Kotetsu Hagane
Obito Uchiha (Sharingan)
Rin
Sasuke Uchiha (Sharingan)
Shikamaru Nara (Chunin exam)
Shino Aburame (Chunin exam)
Yashamaru

C-
Gōzu (Demon Brother)
Kiba Inazuka (Chunin exam)
Meizu (Demon Brother)
Mizuki
Naruto Uzumaki (Post clone jutsu)
Obito Uchiha (pre-Sharingan)
Sasuke Uchiha (pre-Sharingan)
Shigure

D+
Chōji Akimichi (Chunin exam)
Hinata Hyuga (part 1)
Ino Yamanaka (Chunin exam)
Kin
Oboro
Tenten (Chunin exam)
Zaku

D
Misumi Tsurugi
Sakura Haruno (Chunin exam)
Yoroi Akadō

D-
Rock Lee (Just graduated Genin)
Sakura Haruno (Start)

E+
Naruto Uzumaki (pre-clone jutsu)

E-
Konohamaru Sarutobi (start)
Rock Lee (Academy flashback)

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Added-
2nd Mizukage and 3rd Raikage to S+

Dodai to A

Ittan at B+

Tenten (Part 2) at B-