The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Son of a *****....

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Gaara just had to try and stop the meteor with force alone. On to of that, he lives from the meteor virtually unscratched though out of chakra whereas Onoki's on his last leg. Plus Naruto's clone should've disappeared by now.

So this is what Mokuton is supposed to look like huh? Well I guess both Hashirama and Madara are solid S+ right?

And I'm not sure either Tsunade or A are aware that Tobi's about to go kick the crap out of them; seeing as how she wants to go out and all.

Hashirama and EMS Madara would be S+. Current Madara is SS easily. Mokuton, Rinnegan & EMS all in one body with regen? Stupidly hax.

Originally posted by SquallX
You guys should check the OBD, there doing all in there power to downplay the feat, and it's ****ing hilarious.

Meh, I can somewhat understand. Onoki tanked the impact of two of those things, and the major characters survived thanks to Gaara.

I'd say CT is a better tech than this, though the way Madara quickly used a second one was badass. Still, link plox.

Originally posted by danteiscool
http://outskirtsbattledome.wikispaces.com/Popular+OBD+Fictions

I saw your post, Nephthys, so there's the link. I couldn't get the one of Naruto, but it's on the list. just scroll to down to the N's on the anime/manga list.

wow, yeah, I gotta hand it to Kishimoto on this: he did a great job on Madara (the real one). he is every bit as tough as he's supposed to be.

Thanks, but checking this, there isn't even a character profile on Madara.

Not even one for Tobi. What the hell! He's the main villian! You make a profile for ****ing Juugo and not the main ****ing antagonist! For shame OBD! Fooooor shaaaaaame!

Originally posted by SquallX
You guys should check the OBD, there doing all in there power to downplay the feat, and it's ****ing hilarious.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Son of a *****....

Spoiler:
Gaara just had to try and stop the meteor with force alone. On to of that, he lives from the meteor virtually unscratched though out of chakra whereas Onoki's on his last leg. Plus Naruto's clone should've disappeared by now.

What else do you expect a sue like Gaara to do? 😛

And yes, how the clone is still around is beyond me.

Edit: Also, never mind bumping Onoki down. While I still think he has several weaknesses, to be able to tank that and live is quite the feat. ^^

^ oonoki literally took two meteors on the chin and lived, only to get angry and want to fight seriously 😐

....give that motherphucker a bump

Tobi is

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the younger brother?

What do you guys think?

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Tobi is not an Uchiha. In fact, he is likely a Senju or someone who hates the Uchiha. And I mean hates them more than Sasuke hates Konoha. He doesn't just want them dead, he wants their name in the dirt.

To do this, he needs to make the Uchiha the most loathed people in history. So he takes a sharingan and pretends to be an Uchiha. Does it drain him? Yes it does. But he has Senju cells to compensate. And if you pay attention, Tobi takes several oppurtunities to rest when he can. Anything is worth the price to watch the Uchiha dogs pay for what they did.

But it's not enough to just make himself as an Uchiha look evil. No, he needs to make it seem like the Uchiha and the word evil are synonomous. To this end, he is using Sasuke to smear the Uchiha name after the clans death. He has also taken the name Madara as his own to assist in this. Who else to name yourself after except the greatest Uchiha of all?

Tobi used the Kyuubi to make the Elders suspicious of the Uchiha. He then kept an eye on things in order to see when to strike. When Itachi approached him with the plan, it was perfect. The oppurtunity to eradicate the Uchiha and smear their name. However there was a flaw in his plan: Sasuke.

By letting Sasuke live, Itachi ensured that it was possible for the Uchiha name to be the name of the Hero who avenged his clan and effectively reborn the clan as a clan of heroes. Tobi can't have that, so he must do the opposite. He has to make Sasuke so vile that everyone will hate his guts and the Uchiha by extension.

But that's not all. No, the grand daddy of his plans, his main objective, was to revive Madara Uchiha. Under the guise of Madara Uchiha, he proclaimed to the world his Moons Eye Plan. Whether this is the real Madara's plan or not is irrelevant. All that is important is the world think it is his plan.

On the day of the Jubi's revival, Tobi planned to bring back Madara Uchiha. Either through Nagato(not an option anymore) or through Sasuke. Once Madara is revived, the mask comes off. Tobi is free to appear like the Sage of Old and defeat the Jubi and the one who summoned him, "Madara Uchiha". This is what he means when he said he will become the Second Sage of Six Paths.

Thoughts?

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

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The moment Kabuto called him on his bluff, Madara checked under his shirt. Could that perhaps indicate that he has Senju cells on his chest?

Someone had to transplant those. My guess is Tobi. Hmmm...

Agreed, this goes to further push Tobi as some sorf of uber-Orochimaru kind of ninja.

This is something I've been thinking if we are taking to face value the Tobi-is-not-Madara theory:

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the Kyubi recognized the Madara chakra, but as far as we know they just met when the Kyubi faced Tobi? Did they met before?

Anyways, for Tobi to control Kyubi using the EMS, he needs to produce Madara's chakra, this cannot be just because of the Sharigan because we learnt that Madara had the Rinnegan -which I believe is Nagato's-. Then Tobi needs to have Senju cells too, in order to absorb a person's particular chakra and replicate it Zetzu style.

I'm going to throw a crazy hypothesis: This Tobi, whoever he is, managed to get chakra from the Sage of the Six Paths, he can replicate it in a limited fashion -maybe it's a limited amount-, and he is going to use that chakra to control the Fused Beast.

@Aura Angel: That is a quite intrincated plot, it would be interesting to see it play out, since it explains very good why the Madara facade is used (and fits well with my assumption that Tobi was talking about himself when he cited the hate between Uchina and Senju). I wouldn't be surprised if the underlying plot was something like that.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
It's funny that on hearing the name Uzumaki he just calls it Mito's clan.

I noticed too...

Tells me that Mito was ...

Quite....

POWERFUL! mWAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

So we have a bit more evidence for how badass she was.

Originally posted by danteiscool
wow, yeah, I gotta hand it to Kishimoto on this: he did a great job on Madara (the real one). he is every bit as tough as he's supposed to be.

Yup. Agreed.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Hashirama and EMS Madara would be S+. Current Madara is SS easily. Mokuton, Rinnegan & EMS all in one body with regen? Stupidly hax.

Forgot about the regen.

With the regen, that, to me, puts him at SS+, our "true" first SS+.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I'd say CT is a better tech than this, though the way Madara quickly used a second one was badass.

If we use the "summon" idea about chakra to size ratio...

That means that Madara has a shit ton of chakra JUST as was talked about: Madara and Hashirama were supposed to be chakra power houses.

We now know why. 🙂

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ oonoki literally took two meteors on the chin and lived, only to get angry and want to fight seriously 😐

....give that motherphucker a bump

Not only did he take two meteors on the chin...

He took two big mother FU***** meteors to the chin. 313

Aura, about your hypothesis:

It is a good story, for sure. However, it just doesn't seem like something Kishimoto would write. Tobi is most likely a "friend" of Madara...a very close friend. Maybe even family. Madara appears to be referring to Tobi with "our" a lot.

Yes, it seems clear to me that Tobi and Madara were in cahoots. This ties in just fine with my theory on their splitting, and a relatively recent death for the reborn version.

Clearly they were lovers.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yes, it seems clear to me that Tobi and Madara were in cahoots. This ties in just fine with my theory on their splitting, and a relatively recent death for the reborn version.

But we already knew that right, you know, back when we all did our respective theories 😛

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel

And yes, how the clone is still around is beyond me.

Extra chakra from Kyuubi.

Kyuubi-chakra clones seem to be more uber than any clones we've seen before.

Originally posted by Bentley
But we already knew that right, you know, back when we all did our respective theories 😛

Originally posted by psycho gundam
link please, and one that goes directly to what you just mentioned

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=729535&page=206

Just start reading, and you will soon realize there using a double standard for each verse.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, sort of. I also heard it bounced around that by "he" Madara actually meant Orochimaru. Which I think is disproved by this.

Ah, I forgot about that nonsense, did anyone seriously sustained that notion?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Aura, about your hypothesis:

It is a good story, for sure. However, it just doesn't seem like something Kishimoto would write. Tobi is most likely a "friend" of Madara...a very close friend. Maybe even family. Madara appears to be referring to Tobi with "our" a lot.

Why not?

And ah, but there is the rub. Tobi was lying to Madara. That is why things aren't going according to plan. What Madara considers to be his and Tobi's plan is actually not Tobi's at all. Tobi plans to destroy the Uchiha name and who better to use as a means of destroying it than their strongest member?

Of course, I have no basis for any of this. I just think it would be ****ing awesome to see!

Did anyone notice that the giant meteors had no effect on the sealed Edo Kages. I personally though that two meteors would prodce a strong enough force to release the seals....guess I was wrong.

Though if Gaara's sand makes the sealing constructs, shouldn't they crumble since the dude seems to be out of chakra?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka

Though if Gaara's sand makes the sealing constructs, shouldn't they crumble since the dude seems to be out of chakra?

I don't think seals are an active chakra drain, I think they only cost chakra when they're made.

And with Mizukage, a whole buncha ninja used seals.