The Official Naruto series Thread

Originally posted by BloodRain
Personally think its going to end up that way somehow. It probably is his eye too, or theres a prior relationship between the two. Opening new can of questions.

Scraping Madare's level at the very least. He's only a pumped Sasuke with a wood release.

Some guy calced him at Ma10 which sort of fits as he<Ichi speed<Ichi strike speed of 28.. probs above 10 though. Yeah but he kinda ****ed up after the power went to his head :/ Almost like he forgot about his other powers.. More a huge rock, hundred or so meters, and its < 4 Tails BBomb or FRS.

The Sage himself has been shown with the Rinnegan, so I believe that eye was the Juubi's. Though it is entirely possible that the Sage could use the Juubi's eye after he became its Jinchuurikii. Either way, Sasuke should get that eye if he is to be Naruto's equal. 😛

Don't think he's scraping it yet. Madara's much more than a pumped Sasuke with Wood Release, considering Madara could use the Kyuubi, the Rinnegan, summon meteors, and absorb jutsu.

Small mountain/hill, not a huge rock, and it was a sword swing.
Nah, FRS is <<< that feat. Bijuu Dama is better though.

Originally posted by Q99
True.

I got no problem with the former, it's only the later that bugs me, and yea, I think Naruto has gotten more early-DBish with time, and as long as it doesn't get late DB-ish, with beam-of-wars all the time, I'm fine.

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We all like Deidara and he's another blasty fighter.

Deidara's not just a blasty fighter though, he's a blasty fighter that uses gambits better than most others do.

Q99, Negima has a pretty signifigant hatedom even for the manga. estahuh

Though even those who liked it agree that it took like 70 chapters to get good or something.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Some guy calced him at Ma10 which sort of fits as he<Ichi speed<Ichi strike speed of 28.. probs above 10 though. Yeah but he kinda ****ed up after the power went to his head :/ Almost like he forgot about his other powers.. More a huge rock, hundred or so meters, and its < 4 Tails BBomb or FRS.

I see you have been browsing the OBD.

Yeah, Dangai Ichigo is mach 28 according to that calc, using the same method mach 10 was gotten for Aizen.

So Aizen at his best is slower than pre-timeskip Luffy, although Dangai Ichigo has the highest speed feat in the HST, short of special cases like Enel, Kuma, and Kizaru, of course.

I wonder where Naruto and A fit in to all of the speed calculations? I'm not counting Minato cause he teleports.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Deidera was a blasty character within moderation. Not some being with unparralled speed and the ability to match five mountain busters. Hell I was happy with the 6 to 8 tailed rampage against Pein but this is not pleasing to me. Mostly because Naruto is the one doing it.

Don't forget that it was stated hundreds of chapters ago that the Kyubi/Kurami had the most chakra (referring to the half powered Kybui) and Kisame said all the other tailed beasts had to be sealed to balance out the power of just the 9-tails, alone.

This indicates that even a half powered kyubi is equal to all the other biju combined.

Throw in that the Kyubi has a very similar physical form as the 10-tails and we can see why the Kyubi is so powerful (at least one reason).

So the Kyubi matching 5 tailed beasts, even though it is half-powered, in now way is a "surprise". It should be expected.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
However Naruto's recent developments due make me question somethings about Mito. I mean if Tobi's word about Mito is true, the she should've had the same degree of control Naruto has right now aside from being friends with it. Which makes me wonder why wasn't she fighting alongside the 2nd Hokage considering she could obliterate the enemy almost effortlessly.

Who is to say she didn't obliterate the enemies? She was considered to be a powerful ninja. She was enough for the first. 😄

I find no evidence of her being relegated to the sidelines. I only see a clear reason why Mito would be a very powerful asset...considering the information we found out about the Jinchuriki: they act as body guards to their kages.

Seems fairly reasonable that she was to be feared on the battle field especially since we have commentary about her being compared to Naruto.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I wonder where Naruto and A fit in to all of the speed calculations? I'm not counting Minato cause he teleports.

Pain, on the other hand, was calced to be mach 3ish IIRC.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Both are considered low-level hypersonic if I recall right.

Pain, on the other hand, was calced to be mach 3ish IIRC.

Is this the place?

http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=796437

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't forget that it was stated hundreds of chapters ago that the Kyubi/Kurami had the most chakra (referring to the half powered Kybui) and Kisame said all the other tailed beasts had to be sealed to balance out the power of just the 9-tails, alone.

This indicates that even a half powered kyubi is equal to all the other biju combined.

Throw in that the Kyubi has a very similar physical form as the 10-tails and we can see why the Kyubi is so powerful (at least one reason).

So the Kyubi matching 5 tailed beasts, even though it is half-powered, in now way is a "surprise". It should be expected.

I understand all of this. As I stated previously, my problem is that Naruto is the one doing all of it. However I really feel sorry for the Hachibi, I mean the Kyuubi completely showed it up even though he;s supposed to be the second strongest.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Who is to say she didn't obliterate the enemies? She was considered to be a powerful ninja. She was enough for the first. 😄

I find no evidence of her being relegated to the sidelines. I only see a clear reason why Mito would be a very powerful asset...considering the information we found out about the Jinchuriki: they act as body guards to their kages.

Seems fairly reasonable that she was to be feared on the battle field especially since we have commentary about her being compared to Naruto.

Well only have hints that she was able to tame the full power of the Kyuubi and gain a cloak form similar to Naruto's. Everytime she's been shown she looks like a porcelin doll intead of a supreme force on the battle field.

Plus going with the "Feared Uzumaki" title, why haven't people been on the Mito bandwagon but can remember Tsunade as one of the best Kunochi Konoha produced. Hell we didn't even know Mito existed until Kushina said something.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Q99, Negima has a pretty signifigant hatedom even for the manga.

Well yea, it's half-harem romantic comedy with a young boy magic teacher and a buncha schoolgirls. If you hate that genre, you'll hate it by extension, regardless of the quality of said work in the genre.

Though even those who liked it agree that it took like 70 chapters to get good or something.

It took 70-some chapters to get fighty, specifically. The rom comedy bits before that are fun if you don't mind the genre (though they too improve with time).

People like or dislike sections based on genre. The writer's skilled at both.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I understand all of this. As I stated previously, my problem is that Naruto is the one doing all of it. However I really feel sorry for the Hachibi, I mean the Kyuubi completely showed it up even though he;s supposed to be the second strongest.

Why?

And you shouldn't. The Hachibi is still being badass. He is injured and still punches the Five Tails in the face, like "Boom, b!tch! Get on my level!"

***ing Bee and the Hachibi are awesome.

Hachibi and Kurama strike me as physically pretty even, but Kurama has more chakra powers.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Why?

And you shouldn't. The Hachibi is still being badass. He is injured and still punches the Five Tails in the face, like "Boom, b!tch! Get on my level!"

***ing Bee and the Hachibi are awesome.

Cause Naruto sucks at showing off new things, Sage Mode being the only exception.

As awesome as they are there nowhere near this imperfect transformation. Even if it was expected, you'd thing that the gap between Hachibi and Kyuubi would be somewhat reasonable.

Which reminds me, does Bee know the Hachibi's name?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Cause Naruto sucks at showing off new things, Sage Mode being the only exception.

As awesome as they are there nowhere near this imperfect transformation. Even if it was expected, you'd thing that the gap between Hachibi and Kyuubi would be somewhat reasonable.

Which reminds me, does Bee know the Hachibi's name?

Actually, I have grown to hate Sage Mode really. The only thing I like are the eyes. I hate the powers. Whereas Naruto's more recent modes are probably my favorite power ups out of the HST's main characters. Well, based on power. I like Ichigo's new Shinigami outfit as far as design goes.

Idk, probably.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I understand all of this. As I stated previously, my problem is that Naruto is the one doing all of it. However I really feel sorry for the Hachibi, I mean the Kyuubi completely showed it up even though he;s supposed to be the second strongest.

What's wrong with Naruto doing all of it? From like...what...the first or second chapter he was portrayed as an idiot-savant when mastered a jonin level jutsu in moments.

But, yes, the Hachibi is being outclassed.

However, I like it that Naruto is finally being the best. It's about dang time he mastered his biju. 😄

This is what I have been waiting for since we found out about the tailed beast. I am not complaining about Naruto WTF PWNing with his full powered mode (technically, half powered), I am complaining that it took this long for us to reach this point.

See...we are the opposites, mang!

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well only have hints that she was able to tame the full power of the Kyuubi and gain a cloak form similar to Naruto's. Everytime she's been shown she looks like a porcelin doll intead of a supreme force on the battle field.

Plus going with the "Feared Uzumaki" title, why haven't people been on the Mito bandwagon but can remember Tsunade as one of the best Kunochi Konoha produced. Hell we didn't even know Mito existed until Kushina said something.

She might have been the most powerful Kunoichi ever...but was relegated to "protected" confinement due to her having a tailed beast that everyone probably wanted. We just don't know.

But we do know that she would be a better ninja than Naruto WAS before these latest chapters. She would not be an idiot, had a full powered Kyubi, was a powerful uzumaki (because she was selected to host the beast which means she was powerful even for uzumaki standards...plus, it's the most powerful tailed beast in it's full powered form).

My bets are on Mito actually being the strongest Kunoichi in history and by a significant margin. There's just too much things that make her awesome.

I want Kishimoto to clear things up for us. Mito is just so over the top if you consider all the elements that would go into her awesomeness.

It's like being born a Sarutobi: you're definitely going to be a powerful ninja...even if you're a slacker.

Q99, who is your favorite Kekkaishi character? Cause apparently you've read it. 😮

Mito was female, thus a failure.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Actually, I have grown to hate Sage Mode really. The only thing I like are the eyes. I hate the powers. Whereas Naruto's more recent modes are probably my favorite power ups out of the HST's main characters. Well, based on power. I like Ichigo's new Shinigami outfit as far as design goes.

Idk, probably.

It was more Sage Mode's introduction that I liked the most. It was actually close to being badass and the set-up for his introduction was awesome. Sadly it's just a sensor mode that can beef up his clones.

Originally posted by dadudemon
What's wrong with Naruto doing all of it? From like...what...the first or second chapter he was portrayed as an idiot-savant when mastered a jonin level jutsu in moments.

But, yes, the Hachibi is being outclassed.

However, I like it that Naruto is finally being the best. It's about dang time he mastered his biju. 😄

This is what I have been waiting for since we found out about the tailed beast. I am not complaining about Naruto WTF PWNing with his full powered mode (technically, half powered), I am complaining that it took this long for us to reach this point.

See...we are the opposites, mang!

Originally posted by dadudemon
She might have been the most powerful Kunoichi ever...but was relegated to "protected" confinement due to her having a tailed beast that everyone probably wanted. We just don't know.

But we do know that she would be a better ninja than Naruto WAS before these latest chapters. She would not be an idiot, had a full powered Kyubi, was a powerful uzumaki (because she was selected to host the beast which means she was powerful even for uzumaki standards...plus, it's the most powerful tailed beast in it's full powered form).

My bets are on Mito actually being the strongest Kunoichi in history and by a significant margin. There's just too much things that make her awesome.

But instead we hear about how great Tsunade was supposedly during the 2nd Ninja War even when she only has one good feat since she'd been introduced.

I do find it funny how everyone miraculously knows who Kushina/Mito are after Naruto's talk with his mom.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Actually, I have grown to hate Sage Mode really. The only thing I like are the eyes. I hate the powers. Whereas Naruto's more recent modes are probably my favorite power ups out of the HST's main characters. Well, based on power. I like Ichigo's new Shinigami outfit as far as design goes.

Idk, probably.

It's mostly due to the chakra claws.

Sage Mode helped him legitimately beat an S+ character when Kyuubi Chakra Mode could not. 313

Originally posted by Q99
Well yea, it's half-harem romantic comedy with a young boy magic teacher and a buncha schoolgirls. If you hate that genre, you'll hate it by extension, regardless of the quality of said work in the genre.

I heard that a lot of the characters are rather... One-dimensional. 131

It took 70-some chapters to get fighty, specifically. The rom comedy bits before that are fun if you don't mind the genre (though they too improve with time).

People like or dislike sections based on genre. The writer's skilled at both.

I am far too insecure in my masculin- I mean manly to read a romantic comedy manga.

Though I'll get around to trying out Negima eventually, after I am up to date on Bastard!! and Jojo's Bizarre Adventure maybe.

@dadudemon: That is the forum, but I dunno if that is the thread.