Originally posted by Jedi Shmedi
A group in China 6-Manned her.
Does it make sense to you that six characters could take Onyxia down in about 10 or so minutes, when a full raid takes twelve? Even with full twink gear, that should verge upon the impossible with the N. American public servers, which are more maintained. I smell some serious bugging/exploits.
Suspicious time difference there.
well hears MC done in a few mins by a norweagan guild
Also it's all about game play iv'e seen a fully twinked (19)up hunter bring down a lvl 35 hunter without pots or the pet dying or even getting to half health.
And i myself got a lvl 35 druid in cat form down to 2% health before they ran, this was when i was a lvl 26 lock.
This is all an example of how stratagy can overcome gear or can be more important than gear.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
No, the paladin was decked out in judgement
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- Yes I want lore consistency.. why else do you think I'd complain about paladins being forced to support? check out the Fordring family for what paladins used to be
If you haven't figured out by now, the Paladin is not the first into battle. The warriors are. Paladins are figureheads as much as they are battlers, while warriors are just full out decked for combat. First one in. Last one out. Hence, the term "support".
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- "Pally Horde" ?... I just dont think blood elves deserve "Pally" with all their demonism... orcs would make better pallys IMO... they have a lil thing called Honor..
Warlocks are a better example of "demonism". Steal Soul. Blood Pact. And yet you see them getting along chummily with the Paladins, no?
Orcs? Hahahaha! Pure orc magic is solely of the natural world, and the spirits within. Fire, Air, Water, Earth, Wilds. While some delve into demonic energies. If you had bothered to read Lord of the Clans, you would understand. They believe in nothing Holy and they never will. And just because they're addicted to honor doesn't make them Paladin-worthy. Think of a modern day Pope, twenty years younger with rippling muscle, plate armor, and a warhammer. That's a Paladin. A paladin is as much a holy priest as he is a fighter, sometimes more so. It's pretty obvious if you look at some of the different names between the warrior and paladin armor sets. Valor, Heroism. Lawbringer, Judgement.
Why do you think some orc NPC's say "Strength and Honor!" when you click on them? The warrior class is their favourite.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- Of course you'd view a differing opinion as Anti-wow.. perhaps you should work for blizzard, possibly gathering brownie points from the mods along the way as well, hmm?
Come to think of it, I haven't seen you pipe out a good opinion of a game since....I can't even remember. Does that tell you anything about the impressions you hand out?
Ah, the old "accusatory suck up" cliche. Am I a Blizzard mod suck up, just because I'm loyal to the way the game is meant to be played? No. I'd keep my same opinion whether I worked for Blizzard or not.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- Heh.. you veered teh subject towards "Forsaken" which is silly and moot... a long dead annoyance of mine that I no longer wish to discuss
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- Pallys dont fight for 'whatever' they think is right.. thats called a death knight, or scarlet paladin.. what is "right" is dictated by the light..not your personal goals
You missed one catch on the Scarlet Paladin. What is 'right' is dictated by the light? That's only for what their 'light' stands for. Which is why they retained their 'Holy' powers in the first place. Take modern day religion, there's only one God, but you have Roman Catholism, Protestants, etc. Paladins in different causes are very much the same.
Anyways, the automatic assumption that all Paladins are 'good' is just naive. You have religious wars going on even today; even if they're confined to the boardrooms instead of the battlefields. Why shouldn't it be similar in the WoW?
Origrinally posted by SaTsuJiN
- Honestly the two of you are the ones who blew it out of proportion.. I made a simple statement of my dislike.. and the both of you felt the need to pile on me for it... I shouldnt reply?.. tsk- To keep this to the point.. if you wish to reply just rez the other wow thread, so as not to continue 'this' in this particular thread 🙂 since it apparently angers so many people (i.e. you and your scout)
And you told me to keep it in the WoW general thread when you so obviously posted in the Guild thread after I told you to keep it here?
Try not to be such a hypocrite. And he's a Grunt now.
Oh, and it's not just us you're annoying.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
- I know whats logical... and I know that blizz is getting money regardless of how much sense the game makes.. you dont see me offering suggestions in the forum or anything, do you?
And no, I don't see you posting suggestions in the WoW Forums. One, I never go there in the first place, and two, I was under the impression that you were permanently banned.
Originally posted by $noopbert
It seems to conflict with the previous games somewhat.
Can't always have your cake and eat it too.
I was at first very intrigued by the idea of BE being able to be Paladins, and Draenei Shaman. Though, the more I think about it, the more I'm not liking it. It hurts lore, and ultimately, it hurts the gameplay. Plus, it's going to destroy faction numbers. People can be Alliance AND Shaman? Horde numbers are going to drop, big time. Plus it's just stupid from a lore perspective. Why the hell would Blood Elves be Paladins? Sats is right, they're demonic, they don't worship the light.
Originally posted by BackFire
I was at first very intrigued by the idea of BE being able to be Paladins, and Draenei Shaman. Though, the more I think about it, the more I'm not liking it. It hurts lore, and ultimately, it hurts the gameplay. Plus, it's going to destroy faction numbers. People can be Alliance AND Shaman? Horde numbers are going to drop, big time. Plus it's just stupid from a lore perspective. Why the hell would Blood Elves be Paladins? Sats is right, they're demonic, they don't worship the light.
No, that's just being narrow-minded. Remember, an entire race is not bound to just one ideology. Look at the orcs, for instance. You have Orc Warlocks, Orc Shamans, and they're serving the same cause, the same motive. Why can't some Blood Elves be that way, be a bit different? That's how the Blood Elves, originally the High Elves came into being. They were once the Highborne(royalty-ish) class of Night Elves. It's not like the entire BE race is bound to just being a mage or a warlock.
Originally posted by DarkCPowergamer mean anything to you?
It brings balance to the gameplay. Why would horde numbers drop exactly? What's happened to make the Alliance suddenly seem more appealing?No, that's just being narrow-minded. Remember, an entire race is not bound to just one ideology. Look at the orcs, for instance. You have Orc Warlocks, Orc Shamans, and they're serving the same cause, the same motive. Why can't some Blood Elves be that way, be a bit different? That's how the Blood Elves, originally the High Elves came into being. They were once the Highborne(royalty-ish) class of Night Elves. It's not like the entire BE race is bound to just being a mage or a warlock.
I don't have much time for a long post but this is what 'm going to say:
The World of Warcraft staff had been getting lots of Emails asking why a Paladin couldn't be on Horde, and Shamen on Alliance. Well this fits together you see? Darkc is right, they weren't always bad, but they are extremely power hungry which makes them a somewhat "horde" They don't need to like the undead or orc, but they are going for most power. And a Paladin is a good choice. But I also agree with what someone else said, They should have made a Death Knight or something, that would have been a bit more interesting, but it doesn't seem to fit with Blood Elves. So, They are just making the game more all around, which is going to make PVP Much harder,esspicoally since its cross server now. So, its not really hurtting the WoW Community by giving Pallys to BE and Shamen to Alliance because most people want it that way.